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Thor Odinson42
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Posted - 2013.12.12 16:31:00 -
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I'm just trying to get an idea of who is an idiot and who is sensible.
Please post "balanced" or "unbalanced"
I just want to know whether or not I should consider a person credible in the future.
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.12.12 16:34:00 -
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Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Not counting the speed bug they have now, i have no problem killing them if I'm patient enough. Blown up so many tanks with RE's so far :D
Considering RE's aren't meant to be AV what would your take be?
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.12.12 16:38:00 -
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Anoko Destrolock wrote:Need a tank dead, pull out your own, thats the way it should be.
Beat a tank 1v1 on his turf and outplay him......dont go crying for OP swarms like a scrub. Please.
Tanks are actually fun now.... although rails are way OP
I'll put you down as idiot
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.12.12 16:41:00 -
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Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Not counting the speed bug they have now, i have no problem killing them if I'm patient enough. Blown up so many tanks with RE's so far :D Considering RE's aren't meant to be AV what would your take be? Forge guns are also not listed as sniper rifles but people sit on towers with those. If it works, it works. :D
I totally agree, and I'll use whatever means necessary.
But the question still stands actual AV weapons vs Tanks, balanced or not?
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.12.12 17:36:00 -
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R F Gyro wrote:Unbalanced, but difficult to say right now by how much or in what way; we'll have to wait for things to shake out first with CCP tweaks and players figuring out tactics.
The reason I'm confident it is unbalanced is because we aren't trying to balance it around the most constrained resource: number of players.
I agree with this statement. It's going to be tough to balance at the moment.
But I think putting AV back to 1.6 levels and fixing the milita speed module is the first step.
Remove time in battle from ISK payout formula and provide a bonus to winning team... Watch battles become fun again.
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
Public Disorder.
2257
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Posted - 2013.12.12 17:39:00 -
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Knight Soiaire wrote:ratamaq doc wrote:Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Not counting the speed bug they have now, i have no problem killing them if I'm patient enough. Blown up so many tanks with RE's so far :D II hear you, I dedicated my entire night to tank hunting last night and only killed 6. 3 of them with car bombs, 1 gunlogi with combination flux swarm, and 2 with sticky REs. Here's the gorilla I see once this speed thing is fixed, redline rails will be untouchable. REs are the only way I can imagine doing enough damage to an armor tank before he gets away from you, REs don't deploy in the redline. Before if there was a vagina in the redline there was a good chance you could get to him and take him out before your clone timed out, now that will be near impossible even with three proto AV mercs. Not to mention 1 proto AV cost as much as most tanks now, having to deploy three times the asset cost for the chance to remove this stain is not very cost effective. To answer your question OP unbalanced. If it had just been a cost change, I say balanced, just an AV nerf, balanced, just indestructible hit and run changed to the hardeners, balanced, but all three together is to much IMO. Now, pay attention people, notice how he dedicated HIS whole night to HAV hunting, and there was never a mention of a squad.  + That he actually managed to kill some HAVs solo. If you run around solo trying to destroy HAVs, then you're going to get ****** over....... a lot....... 
I had my squad run AV for an entire match(es). You can kill them, but it's silly what some of these tanks are able to withstand. To the point that trying to kill them means that you are probably going to lose the match.
Tactically speaking it's probably best to ignore them. But when there's 5 of them that becomes impossible.
Remove time in battle from ISK payout formula and provide a bonus to winning team... Watch battles become fun again.
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.12.12 17:40:00 -
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Knight Soiaire wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:R F Gyro wrote:Unbalanced, but difficult to say right now by how much or in what way; we'll have to wait for things to shake out first with CCP tweaks and players figuring out tactics.
The reason I'm confident it is unbalanced is because we aren't trying to balance it around the most constrained resource: number of players.
I agree with this statement. It's going to be tough to balance at the moment. But I think putting AV back to 1.6 levels and fixing the milita speed module is the first step. The first step to ruining the progress CCP has made.
This makes no sense to me. This change was like going from one ditch to the other when trying to avoid a pothole. It was an over correction.
Remove time in battle from ISK payout formula and provide a bonus to winning team... Watch battles become fun again.
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