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Asirius Medaius
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Posted - 2013.12.12 12:38:00 -
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Died 8 times in the beginning of a match to a team killing player from Isuuaya Tactical by the name of "514 124", every time he killed me, he would instantly revive me and kill me again with his shotgun before I could hit square to punish. The only way to finish dying was to strafe as fast as I could when he went to revive me again.
This was on Caldari FW; thanks CCP for destroying my K/D with this exploit, and now I have absolutely no reason to play with these trolls on this game due to this new (among many) game-breaking mechanic.
If you won't solve this problem, then I will take my own measures to get vindication.
Signature coming soonGäó.
[Level 9 Forum Warrior]
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Anmol Singh
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
485
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Posted - 2013.12.12 12:39:00 -
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Sorry, i was just milking my cow.
Sagaris lover!!!
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GRIM GEAR
NECROM0NGERS Covert Intervention
119
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Posted - 2013.12.12 12:41:00 -
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Don't tell me it was someone from the goon feet corporation. Where was I oh yeah that completely sucks I hate people who abuse the game mechanics to buff their kdrs and crap on someone whilst doing so.
It's a bird!
No it's a plane!
Never mind it's just my shotgun in your face!
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Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES
781
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Posted - 2013.12.12 12:45:00 -
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U got blueballed. |
Asirius Medaius
754
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Posted - 2013.12.12 12:45:00 -
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GRIM GEAR wrote:Don't tell me it was someone from the goon feet corporation. Where was I oh yeah that completely sucks I hate people who abuse the game mechanics to buff their kdrs and crap on someone whilst doing so.
They didn't improve any stat, it was team killing...
Anyway, I still need LP to buy items, but I doubt CCP will do anything to fix this problem, so it's time to change the war effort as I see fit.
Signature coming soonGäó.
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Kasote Denzara
A Vulture
1321
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Posted - 2013.12.12 12:49:00 -
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Oh noez! My stats in virtual reality aren't uber 1337 pro anymore! Whatever will I do?!
SWEET MOTHER OF TERESA ON THE HOOD OF A MERCEDES BENZ, YOU SOUND LIKE A MAJESTIC EAGLE! DO YOU SING?!
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shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon
1166
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Posted - 2013.12.12 12:53:00 -
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This thing of the 4 kills before kick does not work
"Just another piece of duct tape"
Drugs for mercs
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Django Quik
Dust2Dust.
1897
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Posted - 2013.12.12 13:11:00 -
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Once he has killed you enough times to equal 5k total damage he'll be auto-kicked. So if your suit is 650hp total, 8 TKs should auto-kick him, even if you don't manage to punish him at all.
On a related note, CCP really needs to fix it so that if you're revived it doesn't count as a death either on the leaderboards, EOM scoreboard or player stats.
Also, since revives reward 10wp more than you're deducted from TKs, that guy made 10wp from every tk-revive combo.
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Asirius Medaius
757
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Posted - 2013.12.12 20:48:00 -
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Django Quik wrote:Once he has killed you enough times to equal 5k total damage he'll be auto-kicked. So if your suit is 650hp total, 8 TKs should auto-kick him, even if you don't manage to punish him at all.
On a related note, CCP really needs to fix it so that if you're revived it doesn't count as a death either on the leaderboards, EOM scoreboard or player stats.
Also, since revives reward 10wp more than you're deducted from TKs, that guy made 10wp from every tk-revive combo.
Why didn't CCP think this stuff wasn't going to happen? Do they not understand that Dust 514 has the most trolls that are on consoles?
Signature coming soonGäó.
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XJC1
Gankster's Paradice
1
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Posted - 2013.12.12 20:54:00 -
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Dust514 124. I don't know who you are, but I want to meet you. Together there's no limit to the mayhem we can pull off in this game. Consider joining Gankster's paradise on an alt, I'd gladly accept your application. If not that then post a chat channel and we can squad up. No mics though, that's the rules. |
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Crimson Cerberes
Hammer Of Light Covenant of the Phoenix Alliance
125
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Posted - 2013.12.12 20:59:00 -
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this is brilliant. lets say you are a shield tanker, you get revived with a 30% needle and get like 100 HP...
Man you could teamkill someone like 30-40 times maybe. |
Asirius Medaius
757
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Posted - 2013.12.12 21:02:00 -
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After I thought about it for a bit, I actually don't mind that this incident happened. It saved me a lot of time, and I have realized that I can now just avoid team-killing and just AFK all the time in Faction Warfare to get my LP, while getting the same amount as everyone else, and losing no suits.
Thanks 514 124 or whatever that number was -- your 8 team kills has saved me much time in the future. And thank you CCP, for making features that are exploitable, which means that now I can get even.
Signature coming soonGäó.
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Doc Noah
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
986
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Posted - 2013.12.12 21:44:00 -
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Asirius Medaius wrote:After I thought about it for a bit, I actually don't mind that this incident happened. It saved me a lot of time, and I have realized that I can now just avoid team-killing and just AFK all the time in Faction Warfare to get my LP, while getting the same amount as everyone else, and losing no suits. Thanks 514 124 or whatever that number was -- your 8 team kills has saved me much time in the future. And thank you CCP, for making features that are exploitable, which means that now I can get even. Except AFKing doesnt do anything to prevent getting TKed nor does it help your team at all. Matter of fact AFKing will probably increase your chances of getting TKed since you're a detriment to your entire team instead of being a target of your average griefer. |
Avinash Decker
Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic
89
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Posted - 2013.12.12 21:49:00 -
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Django Quik wrote:Once he has killed you enough times to equal 5k total damage he'll be auto-kicked. So if your suit is 650hp total, 8 TKs should auto-kick him, even if you don't manage to punish him at all.
On a related note, CCP really needs to fix it so that if you're revived it doesn't count as a death either on the leaderboards, EOM scoreboard or player stats.
Also, since revives reward 10wp more than you're deducted from TKs, that guy made 10wp from every tk-revive combo.
You don't get revived to full HP on a portion of it , if he gets revived to 200 hp he can kill him 25 times. |
Nestil
Seraphim Auxiliaries
94
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Posted - 2013.12.12 21:53:00 -
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Asirius Medaius wrote:Died 8 times in the beginning of a match to a team killing player from Isuuaya Tactical by the name of "514 124", every time he killed me, he would instantly revive me and kill me again with his shotgun before I could hit square to punish. The only way to finish dying was to strafe as fast as I could when he went to revive me again.
This was on Caldari FW; thanks CCP for destroying my K/D with this exploit, and now I have absolutely no reason to play with these trolls on this game due to this new (among many) game-breaking mechanic.
If you won't solve this problem, then I will take my own measures to get vindication.
once a guy tried to tk me... after shotgunning his proto suit and sending him back to spawn he never tried that again! |
Kain Spero
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
2292
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Posted - 2013.12.12 21:57:00 -
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Asirius Medaius wrote: thanks CCP for destroying my K/D with this exploit, and now I have absolutely no reason to play with these trolls on this game due to this new (among many) game-breaking mechanic.
I still think you shouldn't have a death counted until your clone is terminated. It is starting to seem like we need an option to refuse or accept a revive.
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Asirius Medaius
757
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Posted - 2013.12.12 21:59:00 -
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Doc Noah wrote:Asirius Medaius wrote:After I thought about it for a bit, I actually don't mind that this incident happened. It saved me a lot of time, and I have realized that I can now just avoid team-killing and just AFK all the time in Faction Warfare to get my LP, while getting the same amount as everyone else, and losing no suits. Thanks 514 124 or whatever that number was -- your 8 team kills has saved me much time in the future. And thank you CCP, for making features that are exploitable, which means that now I can get even. Except AFKing doesnt do anything to prevent getting TKed nor does it help your team at all. Matter of fact AFKing will probably increase your chances of getting TKed since you're a detriment to your entire team instead of being a target of your average griefer.
Lol, we will see.
Signature coming soonGäó.
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Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES
803
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Posted - 2013.12.12 22:13:00 -
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XJC1 wrote:Dust514 124. I don't know who you are, but I want to meet you. Together there's no limit to the mayhem we can pull off in this game. Consider joining Gankster's paradise on an alt, I'd gladly accept your application. If not that then post a chat channel and we can squad up. No mics though, that's the rules.
my guess is he's already in the vats |
Doc Noah
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
986
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Posted - 2013.12.12 22:21:00 -
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Kain Spero wrote:I still think you shouldn't have a death counted until your clone is terminated. It is starting to seem like we need an option to refuse or accept a revive. So should a kill not count unless the clone is dead too? CCP will have to change the kill message to: "Incapacitate +50" and every "kill" in your scoreboard wont count until that person is confirmed dead. There needs to be a balance between the two, for every positive there needs to be a negative. If someone records a kill, someone has to record a death.
If you want to prevent revive TK exploit then put better safety measures. If the game can recongize 5k worth of friendly damage then it can certainly recognize when a person TKed way too many times. |
Texs Red
DUST University Ivy League
93
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Posted - 2013.12.12 22:28:00 -
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XJC1 wrote:Dust514 124. I don't know who you are, but I want to meet you. Together there's no limit to the mayhem we can pull off in this game. Consider joining Gankster's paradise on an alt, I'd gladly accept your application. If not that then post a chat channel and we can squad up. No mics though, that's the rules.
You! I saw you earlier today! You were doing the exact same thing to one of my squad mates. |
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Asirius Medaius
758
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Posted - 2013.12.12 22:37:00 -
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Doc Noah wrote: If the game can recongize 5k worth of friendly damage then it can certainly recognize when a person TKed way too many times.
Not if you Can't Code Properly...
Signature coming soonGäó.
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TEXA5 HiTM4N
ROGUE SPADES
330
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Posted - 2013.12.12 22:39:00 -
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Asirius Medaius wrote:Died 8 times in the beginning of a match to a team killing player from Isuuaya Tactical by the name of "514 124", every time he killed me, he would instantly revive me and kill me again with his shotgun before I could hit square to punish. The only way to finish dying was to strafe as fast as I could when he went to revive me again.
This was on Caldari FW; thanks CCP for destroying my K/D with this exploit, and now I have absolutely no reason to play with these trolls on this game due to this new (among many) game-breaking mechanic.
If you won't solve this problem, then I will take my own measures to get vindication.
I do that to people who are holding the team back. were you being useless?
Everything I say or do has the utmost importance.
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Joseph Ridgeson
warravens League of Infamy
295
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Posted - 2013.12.12 22:42:00 -
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Asirius Medaius wrote: Why didn't CCP think this stuff wasn't going to happen? Do they not understand that Dust 514 has the most trolls that are on consoles?
Because they knew it would happen but they are not sure if they like it or not.
EVE is a brutal place. It wasn't originally meant to be; one of the devs mentioned that the social aspect of EVE, piracy-scamming-spying-etc, was an afterthought in EVE when developing it. It was just meant to be a basic kill stuff and get stuff game. But the community embraced the cruelty and espionage that happens in the game and thus we have the developers of the game stating "This is New Eden."
The problem CCP has, and it is a huge problem, is when that level of brutality involves using game mechanics. In EVE, you can basically cause a time dilation by dumping cargo containers into space. This is used to slow people down at gates to make it easier to kill them. CCP knows that this tactic is used and is exploiting their code. I was at EVE Vegas (I am a big damn nerd) and the gist by the GM when encountering this tactic was "Well, that is not all that many cans but no more cans." There was also the Blackhole Wormhole where getting a negative distance on your weapons gave you perfect optimal range at infinite distance. Imagine getting killed by a shotgun from the range of a sniper rifle. CCP wasn't sure if it was an exploit and needed banning or just that it was a clever use of the game's mechanics.
Using examples in DUST, the early Grief University PW games. CCP obviously likes the idea of that level of spying and infiltration happening but it involves using game mechanics to do so. In real life, you don't reanimate the guys that are clearly killing themselves on purpose. Jeez, 5 infiltrators could just sit in the MCC and play Go Fish and give you a huge disadvantage as it was difficult to replace people in the match.
This is where the problem lies for CCP. They are fine with the concept of trolling and purposefully doing stuff like this, but the reason it is happening is because of the game's mechanics. CCP has never been good at stating "this IS a game and we ARE going to police it so it actually works as a game." It is a hard line to walk, I will admit.
Be well. -Joseph. |
Asirius Medaius
758
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Posted - 2013.12.12 23:23:00 -
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TEXA5 HiTM4N wrote:Asirius Medaius wrote:Died 8 times in the beginning of a match to a team killing player from Isuuaya Tactical by the name of "514 124", every time he killed me, he would instantly revive me and kill me again with his shotgun before I could hit square to punish. The only way to finish dying was to strafe as fast as I could when he went to revive me again.
This was on Caldari FW; thanks CCP for destroying my K/D with this exploit, and now I have absolutely no reason to play with these trolls on this game due to this new (among many) game-breaking mechanic.
If you won't solve this problem, then I will take my own measures to get vindication. I do that to people who are holding the team back. were you being useless?
Unless going 7-0 before going 7-8 when the incident occurred is useless, then no.
Signature coming soonGäó.
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Xotaes
Goonfeet Top Men.
2
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Posted - 2013.12.12 23:58:00 -
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Asirius Medaius wrote:TEXA5 HiTM4N wrote:Asirius Medaius wrote:Died 8 times in the beginning of a match to a team killing player from Isuuaya Tactical by the name of "514 124", every time he killed me, he would instantly revive me and kill me again with his shotgun before I could hit square to punish. The only way to finish dying was to strafe as fast as I could when he went to revive me again.
This was on Caldari FW; thanks CCP for destroying my K/D with this exploit, and now I have absolutely no reason to play with these trolls on this game due to this new (among many) game-breaking mechanic.
If you won't solve this problem, then I will take my own measures to get vindication. I do that to people who are holding the team back. were you being useless? Unless going 7-0 before going 7-8 when the incident occurred is useless, then no.
Did you in any way contribute to pushing the battle forwards, winning victory for your chosen faction? Or is it that the reason the TK-ing went on for so long is because you were all on your lonesome on a hilltop somewhere with not a friend in the world?
Are you a KDR obsessed Useless Sniper(tm)? |
XJC1
Gankster's Paradice
3
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Posted - 2013.12.13 01:22:00 -
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Texs Red wrote:XJC1 wrote:Dust514 124. I don't know who you are, but I want to meet you. Together there's no limit to the mayhem we can pull off in this game. Consider joining Gankster's paradise on an alt, I'd gladly accept your application. If not that then post a chat channel and we can squad up. No mics though, that's the rules. You! I saw you earlier today! You were doing the exact same thing to one of my squad mates.
I remember you. |
Patrick57
Fatal Absolution
2026
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Posted - 2013.12.13 01:23:00 -
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Asirius Medaius wrote:Died 8 times in the beginning of a match to a team killing player from Isuuaya Tactical by the name of "514 124", every time he killed me, he would instantly revive me and kill me again with his shotgun before I could hit square to punish. The only way to finish dying was to strafe as fast as I could when he went to revive me again.
This was on Caldari FW; thanks CCP for destroying my K/D with this exploit, and now I have absolutely no reason to play with these trolls on this game due to this new (among many) game-breaking mechanic.
If you won't solve this problem, then I will take my own measures to get vindication. Lol, I did this in a PC once for Xer Cloud Consortium on my alt xD
When I'm depressed, I cut myself......A BIG SLICE OF CHOCOLATE CAKE!
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Ghost Kaisar
THIRD EARTH INCORPORATED Dark Taboo
1147
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Posted - 2013.12.13 01:24:00 -
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Kain Spero wrote:Asirius Medaius wrote: thanks CCP for destroying my K/D with this exploit, and now I have absolutely no reason to play with these trolls on this game due to this new (among many) game-breaking mechanic. I still think you shouldn't have a death counted until your clone is terminated. It is starting to seem like we need an option to refuse or accept a revive.
Like we haven't asked for that since day 1?
Minmatar Faction Warfare: Let's get Organized
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Patrick57
Fatal Absolution
2026
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Posted - 2013.12.13 01:26:00 -
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Joseph Ridgeson wrote:Asirius Medaius wrote: Why didn't CCP think this stuff wasn't going to happen? Do they not understand that Dust 514 has the most trolls that are on consoles?
Because they knew it would happen but they are not sure if they like it or not. EVE is a brutal place. It wasn't originally meant to be; one of the devs mentioned that the social aspect of EVE, piracy-scamming-spying-etc, was an afterthought in EVE when developing it. It was just meant to be a basic kill stuff and get stuff game. But the community embraced the cruelty and espionage that happens in the game and thus we have the developers of the game stating "This is New Eden." The problem CCP has, and it is a huge problem, is when that level of brutality involves using game mechanics. In EVE, you can basically cause a time dilation by dumping cargo containers into space. This is used to slow people down at gates to make it easier to kill them. CCP knows that this tactic is used and is exploiting their code. I was at EVE Vegas (I am a big damn nerd) and the gist by the GM when encountering this tactic was "Well, that is not all that many cans but no more cans." There was also the Blackhole Wormhole where getting a negative distance on your weapons gave you perfect optimal range at infinite distance. Imagine getting killed by a shotgun from the range of a sniper rifle. CCP wasn't sure if it was an exploit and needed banning or just that it was a clever use of the game's mechanics. Using examples in DUST, the early Grief University PW games. CCP obviously likes the idea of that level of spying and infiltration happening but it involves using game mechanics to do so. In real life, you don't reanimate the guys that are clearly killing themselves on purpose. Jeez, 5 infiltrators could just sit in the MCC and play Go Fish and give you a huge disadvantage as it was difficult to replace people in the match. This is where the problem lies for CCP. They are fine with the concept of trolling and purposefully doing stuff like this, but the reason it is happening is because of the game's mechanics. CCP has never been good at stating "this IS a game and we ARE going to police it so it actually works as a game." It is a hard line to walk, I will admit. Be well. -Joseph. +1 for a detailed post.
*bows*
When I'm depressed, I cut myself......A BIG SLICE OF CHOCOLATE CAKE!
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Jungian
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
277
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Posted - 2013.12.13 01:41:00 -
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Kain Spero wrote:Asirius Medaius wrote: thanks CCP for destroying my K/D with this exploit, and now I have absolutely no reason to play with these trolls on this game due to this new (among many) game-breaking mechanic. I still think you shouldn't have a death counted until your clone is terminated. It is starting to seem like we need an option to refuse or accept a revive.
Hilarious. |
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