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crazy space 1
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.12.12 08:24:00 -
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http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/12/12/analyst-ps4-was-biggest-console-launch-in-history?utm_campaign=ign+main+twitter&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social
Both xbox one and PS4 are selling faster than any console in history. And both are full of Free to play mmos that already have 30,000-100,000 online at a time... |
Necandi Brasil
DUST BRASIL S.A Covert Intervention
530
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Posted - 2013.12.12 08:26:00 -
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No ... Laser focused in PS3, remember ? At least, this is what I hope, I want them to remember what they did with this game, so the ps4 launch can go much much better....
A DUST BRASIL S.A precisa de você ! Junte-se a nós !
Hey CCP, give me PvE!
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crazy space 1
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
2054
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Posted - 2013.12.12 08:29:00 -
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PvE was confirmed for 2012 in November 2012
You want to know why no one plays this game? The PS3 can't have any more Dropsuit models in game. No more tanks, no more art assets.
They allready fired 80% of the dev team, plus they fired half of world of darkness. PS4 is x32 bit, unreal 3 is easy to make games on if it's not PS3. No one plays their PS3 anymore... There is no playerbase to pull from on PS3.
They have spent 25 million on dust... |
Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
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Posted - 2013.12.12 08:30:00 -
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Ok. No one cares but the kids. I'm still waiting until mid or late next year. Next gen isn't even next gen right now. People bought a bonafide test machine.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
For the State!!
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crazy space 1
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
2054
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Posted - 2013.12.12 08:31:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:Ok. No one cares but the kids. I'm still waiting until mid or late next year. Next gen isn't even next gen right now. People bought a bonafide test machine.
Dust wouldn't look better. It would run in 1080p, and they would have enough memory to add in the missing dropsuits. More players per match. Faster feature creation.
Listen you need to actully try to learn how game engines work. Unreal 3 can not look better. That would be a whole new game, I don't want that, I want 64vs.64 battles, dust is pretty enough. But there enough enough memory to add trees. The ONLY reason we don't have the Minmatar and Ammar MCCs, as well as MTACS, PvE, skirmish 1.0, the halogram table, is soley due to the 512Mb DDR2 ram in the PS3... |
Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
2181
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Posted - 2013.12.12 08:34:00 -
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crazy space 1 wrote:PvE was confirmed for 2012 in November 2012
You want to know why no one plays this game? The PS3 can't have any more Dropsuit models in game. No more tanks, no more art assets.
They allready fired 80% of the dev team, plus they fired half of world of darkness. PS4 is x32 bit, unreal 3 is easy to make games on if it's not PS3. No one plays their PS3 anymore... There is no playerbase to pull from on PS3.
They have spent 25 million on dust...
Hy-Hy-Hy-Hyperbole!!!!!
No the kids don't play their PS3s no more because their parents told them they can't have two systems. Meanwhile smart adults kept their PS3s knowing not to buy next gen until the kinks are worked out.
There is a significant amount of players in the playerbase to pull from.
Reason why folks are getting ports from old gen. I mean, c'mon, Tomb Raider? LOL!!!! So you want to see Lara's hair look better??? Whoopity doo.
If games are so easy to be made on then why the heck next gen games really don't look that much different than current gen?
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
For the State!!
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Ardenis Sthresiut
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men.
12
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Posted - 2013.12.12 08:35:00 -
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crazy space 1 wrote:Michael Arck wrote:Ok. No one cares but the kids. I'm still waiting until mid or late next year. Next gen isn't even next gen right now. People bought a bonafide test machine. Dust wouldn't look better. It would run in 1080p, and they would have enough memory to add in the missing dropsuits. More players per match. Faster feature creation. Listen you need to actully try to learn how game engines work. Unreal 3 can not look better. That would be a whole new game, I don't want that, I want 64vs.64 battles, dust is pretty enough. But there enough enough memory to add trees. The ONLY reason we don't have the Minmatar and Ammar MCCs, as well as MTACS, PvE, skirmish 1.0, the halogram table, is soley due to the 512Mb DDR2 ram in the PS3...
B-b-but... Laser focused....
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crazy space 1
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
2054
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Posted - 2013.12.12 08:36:00 -
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What are you talking about? Dust is running on an altered version of unreal 3.
Unreal 3 is easier to develop on PS4 becuase it's a x32 system. It literally just runs PC games. Get smart. |
Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
2181
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Posted - 2013.12.12 08:38:00 -
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crazy space 1 wrote:Michael Arck wrote:Ok. No one cares but the kids. I'm still waiting until mid or late next year. Next gen isn't even next gen right now. People bought a bonafide test machine. Dust wouldn't look better. It would run in 1080p, and they would have enough memory to add in the missing dropsuits. More players per match. Faster feature creation. Listen you need to actully try to learn how game engines work. Unreal 3 can not look better. That would be a whole new game, I don't want that, I want 64vs.64 battles, dust is pretty enough. But there enough enough memory to add trees. The ONLY reason we don't have the Minmatar and Ammar MCCs, as well as MTACS, PvE, skirmish 1.0, the halogram table, is soley due to the 512Mb DDR2 ram in the PS3...
Forget all that bs man. Developers still have to master the tech. If it was so much easier, if devs were so adamant about next gen, then you would see a significant amount of launch titles. You do not.
Hell, GTAV on PS3 looks damn fantastic. R* showed you that you can still do amazing things with PS3's tech.
The only reason we don't have those things have nothing to do with the tech. It has everything to do with their own personal development cycle that is known to take some time to produce.
Thanks to meri jin...now we back to talking about PS4 again. oh god, please be quiet. It will come when its ready...
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
For the State!!
[email protected]
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Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
2181
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Posted - 2013.12.12 08:39:00 -
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crazy space 1 wrote:What are you talking about? Dust is running on an altered version of unreal 3.
Unreal 3 is easier to develop on PS4 becuase it's a x32 system. It literally just runs PC games. Get smart.
It's quite simple what I'm talking about. Use your brain Einstein. How can you supposedly "talk tech" and can't have the basic common sense to understand what a person is saying? It's quite simple what I'm expressing here. Unless you have the rain man syndrome. In which I am starting to believe...
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
For the State!!
[email protected]
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crazy space 1
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
2054
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Posted - 2013.12.12 08:41:00 -
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CCP LogicLoop wrote:Avinash Decker wrote:So it's a RAM shortage problem then? Yes.
Unreal 3 ports VERY EASILY. the game would just look better. I think you need to understand, they play the game in office on PC, Not PS3... The game works fine when they are building it and playing it with 360 controllers. Every month they have to port it to PS3 again... and again... and again...
People aren't gonna spend money on some self titled AAA shooter with 25 million sunk into it that plays the way it does. How much money do you think dust has brought in compared to the cost of the game so far? How much of that money, work and time has been thrown out the window.
Commander mode was working in house 3 weeks from being released, Vita app was finished 2 years ago. Racial MCCs are done but can not fit untill they fix the code or save memory somewhere.
EVE online would not run on 512Mb of ram... |
meri jin
Goonfeet Top Men.
633
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Posted - 2013.12.12 08:44:00 -
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NOTE: imagine cleaning lady voice from family guy while reading.
NO NO NO PS4, WE CCP, WE "Laser focused" PS3, WE THINK NO ONE WILL BY PS4, NO NO PS4, BAD PS4. NO NO GO AWAY PS4.
My EVE pilot have more ISK then your peon corp.
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crazy space 1
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
2054
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Posted - 2013.12.12 08:47:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:crazy space 1 wrote:What are you talking about? Dust is running on an altered version of unreal 3.
Unreal 3 is easier to develop on PS4 becuase it's a x32 system. It literally just runs PC games. Get smart. It's quite simple what I'm talking about. Use your brain Einstein. How can you supposedly "talk tech" and can't have the basic common sense to understand what a person is saying? It's quite simple what I'm expressing here. Unless you have the rain man syndrome. In which I am starting to believe...
You hear people talk about unreal 3 and your brain breaks. That's sad. |
crazy space 1
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
2054
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Posted - 2013.12.12 08:48:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:Ok. No one cares but the kids. I'm still waiting until mid or late next year. .
You will wait forever
The launch trailer advertises PvE, they did that becuase they knew it would be released before the end of 2012 for sure 100%. Whoops. |
meri jin
Goonfeet Top Men.
633
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Posted - 2013.12.12 08:54:00 -
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Dust is a bad game because it is not made for the PS3. The PS3 is limiting Dust in a very strong way. What would happen if you run a Windows 7 installation on a Pentium 2 and a Voodoo 3DFX card? Right, you would have to limit it back to windows 98 or even 95 :P.
that is exactly what is happening to Dust on the OS3 right now. Don't get me wrong, I still think that it is possible to make it run on both systems, like Destiny. But I think that Dust is way more complicated, so you would have to limit functions of the PS3 Dust like not having 64v64 and no PVE, but still playable.
Listen to one more thing here. Even if Dust would transferee to the PS4 like it is now, I would play it on the PS4. Not having hardware issues, no loading times, no slow building textures. and so on.
My EVE pilot have more ISK then your peon corp.
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Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
838
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Posted - 2013.12.12 09:12:00 -
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crazy space 1 wrote:Michael Arck wrote:Ok. No one cares but the kids. I'm still waiting until mid or late next year. Next gen isn't even next gen right now. People bought a bonafide test machine. Dust wouldn't look better. It would run in 1080p, and they would have enough memory to add in the missing dropsuits. More players per match. Faster feature creation. Listen you need to actully try to learn how game engines work. Unreal 3 can not look better. That would be a whole new game, I don't want that, I want 64vs.64 battles, dust is pretty enough. But there enough enough memory to add trees. The ONLY reason we don't have the Minmatar and Ammar MCCs, as well as MTACS, PvE, skirmish 1.0, the halogram table, is soley due to the 512Mb DDR2 ram in the PS3... wrong, it would look better because: 1. it would run in 1080p with proper render distance 2. they could use all the high detail models and textures CCP uses on their development PCs. what you see in game is just the low detail version
Michael Arck wrote:[If games are so easy to be made on then why the heck next gen games really don't look that much different than current gen?
killzone disagrees |
Hin Raven
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.12.12 10:31:00 -
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crazy space 1 wrote:http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/12/12/analyst-ps4-was-biggest-console-launch-in-history?utm_campaign=ign+main+twitter&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social
Both xbox one and PS4 are selling faster than any console in history. And both are full of Free to play mmos that already have 30,000-100,000 online at a time...
So much for the death of the console. I remember reading an article in 1988 that said the Super Nintendo/Sega Megadrive will be the last major console release because the Konix Multistream would dominate everything.
Every generation, they say it will be the last generation of traditional consoles and everytime there are wrong. Cinema did not kill theater, tv did not kill cinema, vhs did not kill cinema, mobile phone and tablet games will not kill consoles. Playing console is a different experince to tablet/phone gaming. Plenty of room for both. |
crazy space 1
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
2059
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Posted - 2013.12.12 10:40:00 -
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meri jin wrote:Dust is a bad game because it is not made for the PS3. The PS3 is limiting Dust in a very strong way. What would happen if you run a Windows 7 installation on a Pentium 2 and a Voodoo 3DFX card? Right, you would have to limit it back to windows 98 or even 95 :P.
That is exactly what is happening to Dust on the PS3 right now. Don't get me wrong, I still think that it is possible to make it run on both systems, like Destiny. But I think that Dust is way more complicated then Destiny, so you would have to limit functions of the PS3 Dust like not having 64v64 and no PVE, but still playable.
Listen to one more thing here. Even if Dust would transferee to the PS4 like it is now, I would play it on the PS4. Not having hardware issues, no loading times, no slow building textures. and so on.
In office they play a badass version of the game we get : ( With tons of weapons and such. If you got your hands on it you could play it too. Here is the UDK site unreal 3 is free to download. Learn how to do what CCP is doing it's fun. I'm even making a video tutorial on it. I get paid to teach people how to learn unreal 3... |
meri jin
Goonfeet Top Men.
634
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Posted - 2013.12.12 10:51:00 -
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crazy space 1 wrote:meri jin wrote:Dust is a bad game because it is not made for the PS3. The PS3 is limiting Dust in a very strong way. What would happen if you run a Windows 7 installation on a Pentium 2 and a Voodoo 3DFX card? Right, you would have to limit it back to windows 98 or even 95 :P.
That is exactly what is happening to Dust on the PS3 right now. Don't get me wrong, I still think that it is possible to make it run on both systems, like Destiny. But I think that Dust is way more complicated then Destiny, so you would have to limit functions of the PS3 Dust like not having 64v64 and no PVE, but still playable.
Listen to one more thing here. Even if Dust would transferee to the PS4 like it is now, I would play it on the PS4. Not having hardware issues, no loading times, no slow building textures. and so on. In office they play a badass version of the game we get : ( With tons of weapons and such. If you got your hands on it you could play it too. Here is the UDK site unreal 3 is free to download. Learn how to do what CCP is doing it's fun. I'm even making a video tutorial on it. I get paid to teach people how to learn unreal 3... Thats cool, what do you do exactly for living? I wish I had all this opportunity's when I was Jung and dream about being a "game creator" ;D. The only "free engine" back in my days was the first version of the RPG maker, and it was THE hot ****, only a few had internet and getting hands on this was amazing :).
My EVE pilot have more ISK then your peon corp.
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Galthur
CrimeWave Syndicate
182
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Posted - 2013.12.12 18:35:00 -
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What if a employee was fired and deleted rogue drones for revenge
Level 18 [======== ] Pure Gallente - Preferred Gamemode: PVE
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crazy space 1
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
2071
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Posted - 2013.12.12 18:53:00 -
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Galthur wrote:What if a employee was fired and deleted rogue drones for revenge No they still have it, They could play skirmish 1.0 today if they wanted but with all the new toys we have now. |
Selarum Dreikyyn
Paladin Survey Force Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.12.13 00:14:00 -
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To give you some perspective here when it comes to PS3 and PS4 differences. The PS3, like the Xbox 360 runs on a modified IBM PowerPC processor. PowerPC if you dare to remember were the CPU of choice for Apple Macintosh computers up until 2006 when they switched to Intel. The PowerPC CPU runs much slower in comparison to Intel or AMD because in a nutshell it's poorly designed to handle the level of processes modern computer systems need.
The PS4 runs on an AMD chipset primarily because AMD have better built in GPU components than Intel (That is my opinion due to my own experience) and because of this more developers can make game for the PS4.
Even if RAM was the primary factor the CPU is too archaic on the PS3 to handle huge scale gaming like what we would need for a proper DUST 514 setup. |
crazy space 1
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
2071
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Posted - 2013.12.13 00:35:00 -
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Selarum Dreikyyn wrote:To give you some perspective here when it comes to PS3 and PS4 differences. The PS3, like the Xbox 360 runs on a modified IBM PowerPC processor. PowerPC if you dare to remember were the CPU of choice for Apple Macintosh computers up until 2006 when they switched to Intel. The PowerPC CPU runs much slower in comparison to Intel or AMD because in a nutshell it's poorly designed to handle the level of processes modern computer systems need.
The PS4 runs on an AMD chipset primarily because AMD have better built in GPU components than Intel (That is my opinion due to my own experience) and because of this more developers can make game for the PS4.
Even if RAM was the primary factor the CPU is too archaic on the PS3 to handle huge scale gaming like what we would need for a proper DUST 514 setup.
I honestly think CCP was promised the PS3 could handle what they wanted to do, and it came as a surprise how much they had to scale back. They fired everyone for a reason... |
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