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Heavy Salvo
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2013.12.13 00:12:00 -
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The Attorney General wrote:Atiim wrote:
If you got easily soloed by AV back in 1.6, then you were doing it wrong. Get better.
Okay. Tell me what teamwork does a tank require. I went into a few matches yesterday and pulled out scores of 30/0 while I was a blueberry. How is that teamwork?
Rational conversations? Please, link one. All pilots have ever said was "Waahhh Wahh. I get OHK'd by MLT AV" "Waahhh Waaah, AV should require teamwork" "Waaah Waaaah. Vehicles shouldn't require teamwork". And insert more QQ here.
Sympathy. LOL. Infantry and AV ARE the community. What does DUST 514's revenue come from? Definitely not people buying AUR vehicles. We don't require sympathy because we are this community. We assign "sympathy". Pilots? They are a literal sub-section of this game's playerbase. For every 1 pilot there are 32 more people who are infantry.
This ain't Tank 514. And it is a First Person Shooter. Not vehicle simulator. Sorry
This is not our result. You haven't even seen us get started yet. And our true result will make you cry for 1.6.
Your claim and case is faulty General. And no Attorney will save the case.
I am not doing your work for you scrub. You can go through my posting history, go back to the start of uprising, and see what I wrote. You pulled a 30/0? Must have been fighting people who have the same abysmal level of AV skill as you do. I would strongly advise you to go and see someone about that raging superiority complex you have going on. Going to cause you nothing but problems when you grow up.
wait....he does realize that you didn't just slap attorney in front of general and said "DAYUM DATS A GOOD MONIKER." and that its an actual thing....right?
I hope so 
A salute, to all the toy soldiers left to melt in the sun by those who would only dream of conquest.
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Heavy Salvo
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2013.12.13 00:26:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:The Attorney General wrote:
Ashland, vs Molon Labe. They kept 3 tanks on the field pretty much the whole match.
You were camping on the roof of the building overlooking C, doing nothing.
Where did I say tanks are fine? I am perfectly open to more changes. In fact, I expect them over the next couple of months. It is the primary reason why I am laughing so hard at all the QQ.
I said months ago when this was announced that it would take them a few patches to get things right. So there is no need for me to be trying to defend this or that beyond trolling the scrubs like you and Atiim.
CCP will take their time, watch the numbers and see what might need adjusting. Vehicles are a work in progress, but none of you are patient.
So keep freaking out, because no where have I seen a rational suggestion from the AV crew about how they want balance other than "roll back the changes", which is just stupid, because tanks are weaker now, so if they undid the nerf, then we would not only be back to OP AV, but it would be even worse.
Ah , AT LAST you specify what game it was. AHAH doing nothing? i was shooting the tanks trying to box us in C, Shooting the Dudes trying to kill ME so i dont shoot their tanks, Killing dudes TAKING C.Plus i left 6+ uplinks and nanohives EVERYWHERE at the beginning of the match. Sure. i couldnt do much because with a breach FG and with No support its not the best strategy, i'll give you that. But if i remember correctly, we got redlined in that game, so whatever you were doing,wasn't enough either.... Then, im not QQing, my main post is about SOLUTIONS. Tanks might be weaker now. But swarms dont have range nor damage AV grenades are USELESS Forge guns are still KIND of ok, with tenough team support, but without it its just an annoyance to enemy tanks. PC is still bad IMO. The insult ''scrub'' does not affect me. I'm a player who has fought EVERYONE in full squads ALONE, and survive. I have pretty decent stats for a LONE player that never used Proto gear. And i have over 20mill Sp and enough experience in the game. So if you think im a scrub it does not offend me, since you obviously dont know the meaning of the word.
Just a tip but uhm if you're using a BREACH forge gun for AV or otherwise, you should NOT attempt things solo, you especially should not EXPECT to accomplish things solo with a BREACH forge gun, for some very obvious reasons 
A salute, to all the toy soldiers left to melt in the sun by those who would only dream of conquest.
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Heavy Salvo
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2013.12.13 01:11:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Heavy Salvo wrote:Just a tip but uhm if you're using a BREACH forge gun for AV or otherwise, you should NOT attempt things solo, you especially should not EXPECT to accomplish things solo with a BREACH forge gun, for some very obvious reasons Yup.because AV sucks and Tanks are OP.
my bad.
uhm I believe you are missing my point
Allow me to take you to school!
The Breach Forge Gun
Now lets begin with the pro to using this weapon, very very HIGH alpha damage, the CON to using it being the incredibly long charge times in place to counteract the high alpha damage associated with this weapon,utilizing the breach forge gun in combat situations may prove difficult unless wielded by an opportunistic predator whose play-style relies primarily on striking the final blow at the most opportune time in order to-
1.Minimize damage to the user
2.Stroke E-peen
3.lol at ensuing "WTF DID YOU HIT ME WITH" mail
How to use the breach EFFECTIVELY without relying on support
....MUDA-DA....ehem...moving on!
Last but not least the point to this post!
You must remember that in all aspects of combat you must ADAPT to SURVIVE, there is no guaranteed strategy,there is no kill-all method and/or weapon, in order to excel in any combat situation you must first understand the strengths and weaknesses that you & you're chosen arsenal possess,much like the swarm launchers aversion to shields and its lust for the cold touch of armor and the plasma cannons failure to be viab...wait thats a terrible example...SCREW IT I'm hungry and my pizzas here and if you don't get the point by now well...I don't care anyway. 
A salute, to all the toy soldiers left to melt in the sun by those who would only dream of conquest.
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Heavy Salvo
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2013.12.13 01:41:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Heavy Salvo wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Heavy Salvo wrote:Just a tip but uhm if you're using a BREACH forge gun for AV or otherwise, you should NOT attempt things solo, you especially should not EXPECT to accomplish things solo with a BREACH forge gun, for some very obvious reasons Yup.because AV sucks and Tanks are OP.
my bad. uhm I believe you are missing my point Allow me to take you to school! The Breach Forge Gun Now lets begin with the pro to using this weapon, very very HIGH alpha damage, the CON to using it being the incredibly long charge times in place to counteract the high alpha damage associated with this weapon,utilizing the breach forge gun in combat situations may prove difficult unless wielded by an opportunistic predator whose play-style relies primarily on striking the final blow at the most opportune time in order to- 1.Minimize damage to the user
2.Stroke E-peen
3.lol at ensuing "WTF DID YOU HIT ME WITH" mail How to use the breach EFFECTIVELY without relying on support ....MUDA-DA....ehem...moving on! Last but not least the point to this post! You must remember that in all aspects of combat you must ADAPT to SURVIVE, there is no guaranteed strategy,there is no kill-all method and/or weapon, in order to excel in any combat situation you must first understand the strengths and weaknesses that you & you're chosen arsenal possess,much like the swarm launchers aversion to shields and its lust for the cold touch of armor and the plasma cannons failure to be viab...wait thats a terrible example...SCREW IT I'm hungry and my pizzas here and if you don't get the point by now well...I don't care anyway. Let me take you to school. People seem to forget that numbers dont mean the same as in battle effectiveness: 1-WHAT ALPHA DAMAGE? A breach FG needs at least 3 shots to drop a MLT tank. And this is a freakn PROTO FG.
2-You forgot the other ''little'' disadvantages of the Breach FG. Beinga heavy weapon im forced to USE a heavy suit. Also, i cant even move while charging it.
3-I know about adapting to survive.thats why i use tanks to counter tanks. It does not mean this is how it should be.
4-''there is no guaranteed strategy'' tanking is a pretty guaranteed strategy if you ask me. The only real counter being another tank.
5-Good thing you dont care,because i do not see what your point is.Tanks dont need strategy nor teamwork but i do. And please,i dont need a tanker saying how much teamplay they have when they always run their tanks solo and now they even can choose to NOT equip additional turrets, so tanks are a 1 man OP suit...
High alpha damage- Realistically speaking, this is what the Breach has, a higher BASE damage than any other handheld weapon of its kind.
Being forced to use a HEAVY suit when using a HEAVY weapon is not a disadvantage inherent to the weapon itself and should not be looked at as such, you are using a tool of the Heavy dropsuit trade you should expect to be wearing a heavy dropsuit when doing so.
alas points 1&2 require the same same response seeing as they are 1 in the same as originally intended, Tanking does not guarantee you kills, nor does it guarantee that you will live simply by being in one, likewise countering a tank with a tank does not mean you will kill it nor does it mean that you will survive the encounter IN THE SAME SITUATION we find AV, simply spawning with a proto-swarm launcher or a proto-forge does not guarantee you kills nor does it guarantee that you will survive, Firing a swarm-launcher at a shield tank because it worked on an armor tank does not mean the effect will mirror your previous encounter, trying to Kamikaze LAV a tank a 2nd time does not mean said tank will be as care-free in regards to you're approach as per you're previous encounter, using AV like you did in 1.6 does not mean it will work the same in 1.7, lightning doesn't strike in the same place twice, do you see what I'm getting at here?
A salute, to all the toy soldiers left to melt in the sun by those who would only dream of conquest.
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Heavy Salvo
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2013.12.13 01:51:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Cosgar wrote:
Aside from beta and my stupidity in wasting SP on scout LAVs, I'm infantry lol. Tanks are easier to kill this patch than when CCP Blam! crippled them. You just have to wise up and get them when they're not glowing. One good tactic is to have one AV play footsie with one and another at the ready to cover any escape routes. It's not that hard, you just have to HTFU.
Its funny people still assume i dont know how to kil a tank. The problem is when they are not glowing, they are GONE. HOW CAN YOU SAY tanks are easier to kill this patch? wHAT game are you playing? A soma has 1000 shields nad 4000 ARMOR BY DEFAULT.They have infinite passive armor repairers and ALL AV weaponry has been nerfed. An you are still talking a lot of bs there about strategies and what not, i DONT WANT TO HAVE TO USE TEAMWORK if tanks dont need to use teamwork. You want me to use teamwork and play strategically? well ,i want the same for tanks then.
If we all got what we wanted I would still be a heavy, I would have a jetpack, and I would be speaking to you from the cockpit of the titan I launched myself into,broke into, and whose pilot I turned to red mist with my shield made out of shotguns all operated by a single trigger.
But the reality is we don't all get what we want, and we never will.
Understand that you do not appear to be looking at this unbiased from both sides of the spectrum and as such you're opinions will continue to remain invalid and you will continue to be treated like a child crying to mommy because you got a red car instead of a blue car.
this post of yours is incredibly selfish, enjoy yourself or rather I know you will.
A salute, to all the toy soldiers left to melt in the sun by those who would only dream of conquest.
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