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Commander Tzu L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 39	Posted - 2013.12.12 02:35:00 - [1] - Quote Dear AV players, Thank you. I really mean it (I do), I don't know what I would have done if you guys had really all quit like your QQ stated. Can I get you something to drink? Tea, or coffee? I see you're distraught, we'll just get right to the point then. Thank you for failing so completely at adapting, thank you for spamming swarms at my shield tank while my hardeners are up. Thank you, if it weren't for your endless dedication to using the wrong weapons at the wrong times, I would actually have lost some tanks. You know, apart from the ones I have been losing by driving warp speed over ramps into the red line and not being able to get out in time. Some tankers are on the forums trying to make you angrier, I just want to say you're perfect the way you are, and you should not change a thing. Sincerely, Commander Tzu
Vee Abbey Three-body Solution 26	Posted - 2013.12.12 02:44:00 - [2] - Quote two days into update and you're talking like it'll last forever XD
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 2244	Posted - 2013.12.12 02:46:00 - [3] - Quote Commander Tzu wrote: Dear AV players, Thank you. I really mean it (I do), I don't know what I would have done if you guys had really all quit like your QQ stated. Can I get you something to drink? Tea, or coffee? I see you're distraught, we'll just get right to the point then. Thank you for failing so completely at adapting, thank you for spamming swarms at my shield tank while my hardeners are up. Thank you, if it weren't for your endless dedication to using the wrong weapons at the wrong times, I would actually have lost some tanks. You know, apart from the ones I have been losing by driving warp speed over ramps into the red line and not being able to get out in time. Some tankers are on the forums trying to make you angrier, I just want to say you're perfect the way you are, and you should not change a thing. Sincerely, Commander Tzu Enjoy it while it lasts Remove time in battle from ISK payout formula and provide a bonus to winning team... Watch battles become fun again.
TheAmazing FlyingPig Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 4999	Posted - 2013.12.12 02:46:00 - [4] - Quote Stay classy. Never forget How to fix the Logi
BobThe 844-1 CakeMan Murder Cakes Of Doom 1227	Posted - 2013.12.12 02:49:00 - [5] - Quote Vee Abbey wrote: two days into update and you're talking like it'll last forever XD it'll be around for at least 2-3 months. minimum. they need data from the new patch they have been working on and to see if there really is a problem. but knowing CCP it will prob last 6 months to a year. i mean they didn't even know the active armor rep glitch for over a year. even in closed beta we thought it was supposed to do tht. XD Tank driver. 10 mil SP in tanks 8 mil into infantry. Msg my main BobThe843CakeMan I ring for everyone. :D
Commander Tzu L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 46	Posted - 2013.12.12 03:28:00 - [6] - Quote Honestly I don't think it's really a problem with the AV weapons themselves. A starter fit with militia swarms caught my tank while my hardener was down and did about 1000 dmg per volley, and that's out of only 4000 lol. Same thing with forge guns and shield tanks. Plus, fuel injectors are really fraked at the moment, I don't even think we really need them with the way tanks are moving, my shield and armor tanks can really pick up and go.
DeadlyAztec11 2730	Posted - 2013.12.12 03:33:00 - [7] - Quote Really just the speed mods are glitched they will be patched. Also, since Tanks also had their overall HP reduced, when modules are taken into account, it is not bad at all. Just a hot fix is needed. I predict the following thread lines - Vehicle buff was USELESS! -Swarm Launchers still too EZ -Forge gun nerf did absolutely nothing You guys watch. Madness is the emergency exit. You can just step outside, and close the door on all those dreadful things that happened.
Cosgar ParagonX 8560	Posted - 2013.12.12 03:37:00 - [8] - Quote BobThe 844-1 CakeMan wrote: Vee Abbey wrote: two days into update and you're talking like it'll last forever XD it'll be around for at least 2-3 months. minimum. they need data from the new patch they have been working on and to see if there really is a problem. but knowing CCP it will prob last 6 months to a year. i mean they didn't even know the active armor rep glitch for over a year. even in closed beta we thought it was supposed to do tht. XD Hell, the damn MLT injector bug will probably make it to 1.9 and the AR recoil exploit will probably last until my kids graduate from college. I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
Master Jaraiya Ultramarine Corp 1377	Posted - 2013.12.12 03:40:00 - [9] - Quote So tell me, genius, which is the "proper" weapon to use against shield Vehicles? Oh that's right there isn't one aside from the lolplasmacannon. "The true measure of a shinobi is not how he lives, but how he dies." *- The Toad Sage*
Abron Garr Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 631	Posted - 2013.12.12 03:42:00 - [10] - Quote Cosgar wrote: BobThe 844-1 CakeMan wrote: Vee Abbey wrote: two days into update and you're talking like it'll last forever XD it'll be around for at least 2-3 months. minimum. they need data from the new patch they have been working on and to see if there really is a problem. but knowing CCP it will prob last 6 months to a year. i mean they didn't even know the active armor rep glitch for over a year. even in closed beta we thought it was supposed to do tht. XD Hell, the damn MLT injector bug will probably make it to 1.9 and the AR recoil exploit will probably last until my kids graduate from college. How do you say "Wake up Shanghai!" in Chinese? TåÆµ¥ÑS+¡sà¦S+èµ¦+pÇé Thanks, Google Translate!

Roger Cordill The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 211	Posted - 2013.12.12 03:43:00 - [11] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Really just the speed mods are glitched they will be patched. Also, since Tanks also had their overall HP reduced, when modules are taken into account, it is not bad at all. Just a hot fix is needed. I predict the following thread lines - Vehicle buff was USELESS! -Swarm Launchers still too EZ -Forge gun nerf did absolutely nothing You guys watch. Message from Godin: Not all of us are complete scrubs and is using that pos.........
Rowdy Railgunner Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 242	Posted - 2013.12.12 03:44:00 - [12] - Quote The way I feel is. Tanks can only do so much. I hide and kill people while the tank is trouncing. The fact that tanks now trounce allows more people on my side to call in a tank. When they do and they kill your tank, I shoot at it with my rifle just so I get those 75 WP. AV is not dead. It is just not a one man job anymore. I like it. When I was in TRUE TEA BAGGERS we swarmed tanks with AV. Like little bees stinging with 18 little stingers. Soon as people realize that teamwork is best and find people that are willing to be apart of a team, the tankers will cry again. So enjoy the tears now little tanker. They will soon dry up and once again I will laugh when people think that 'core locust' is the best grenada in the game.
Cosgar ParagonX 8562	Posted - 2013.12.12 03:45:00 - [13] - Quote Abron Garr wrote: Cosgar wrote: BobThe 844-1 CakeMan wrote: Vee Abbey wrote: two days into update and you're talking like it'll last forever XD it'll be around for at least 2-3 months. minimum. they need data from the new patch they have been working on and to see if there really is a problem. but knowing CCP it will prob last 6 months to a year. i mean they didn't even know the active armor rep glitch for over a year. even in closed beta we thought it was supposed to do tht. XD Hell, the damn MLT injector bug will probably make it to 1.9 and the AR recoil exploit will probably last until my kids graduate from college. How do you say "Wake up Shanghai!" in Chinese? TåÆµ¥ÑS+¡sà¦S+èµ¦+pÇé Thanks, Google Translate! What kind of ******* are you to want someone to lose their job over a video game? I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
KING CHECKMATE Scions of Athra 3012	Posted - 2013.12.12 03:47:00 - [14] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: Commander Tzu wrote: Dear AV players, Thank you. I really mean it (I do), I don't know what I would have done if you guys had really all quit like your QQ stated. Can I get you something to drink? Tea, or coffee? I see you're distraught, we'll just get right to the point then. Thank you for failing so completely at adapting, thank you for spamming swarms at my shield tank while my hardeners are up. Thank you, if it weren't for your endless dedication to using the wrong weapons at the wrong times, I would actually have lost some tanks. You know, apart from the ones I have been losing by driving warp speed over ramps into the red line and not being able to get out in time. Some tankers are on the forums trying to make you angrier, I just want to say you're perfect the way you are, and you should not change a thing. Sincerely, Commander Tzu Enjoy it while it lasts And it shouldnt be too long. You know, there ARE more infantry men than vehicle drivers/pilots. All the QQ vehicle drivers had for MONTHS? infantry will make hear their voice faster. Enjoy it , until 1.8 comes .... SCR User Since release. Charge shot / Aim to the head / Listen to QQ
Ivy Zalinto Bobbit's Hangmen 155	Posted - 2013.12.12 03:51:00 - [15] - Quote Master Jaraiya wrote: So tell me, genius, which is the "proper" weapon to use against shield Vehicles? Oh that's right there isn't one aside from the lolplasmacannon. Flux grenades, plasma cannon, a forge gun, theres alot of things that make me pull back with a shield tank...btw plasma cannon is a fun weapon. Maybe try running it a bit before writing it off. One shot proto's and run off my gunnlogi...thing that sounds like a good trade off for the one shot reload. Of course you could always just say gg and hide. That works too. Dedicated scout. New player tutor; scout instructor Scrambler Pistol dedication
Abron Garr Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 631	Posted - 2013.12.12 03:51:00 - [16] - Quote Cosgar wrote: Abron Garr wrote: Cosgar wrote: BobThe 844-1 CakeMan wrote: Vee Abbey wrote: two days into update and you're talking like it'll last forever XD it'll be around for at least 2-3 months. minimum. they need data from the new patch they have been working on and to see if there really is a problem. but knowing CCP it will prob last 6 months to a year. i mean they didn't even know the active armor rep glitch for over a year. even in closed beta we thought it was supposed to do tht. XD Hell, the damn MLT injector bug will probably make it to 1.9 and the AR recoil exploit will probably last until my kids graduate from college. How do you say "Wake up Shanghai!" in Chinese? TåÆµ¥ÑS+¡sà¦S+èµ¦+pÇé Thanks, Google Translate! What kind of ******* are you to want someone to lose their job over a video game? What language should I Google translate next so that you can put your reading comprehension skills to use?
Master Jaraiya Ultramarine Corp 1378	Posted - 2013.12.12 04:13:00 - [17] - Quote Ivy Zalinto wrote: Master Jaraiya wrote: So tell me, genius, which is the "proper" weapon to use against shield Vehicles? Oh that's right there isn't one aside from the lolplasmacannon. Flux grenades, plasma cannon, a forge gun, theres alot of things that make me pull back with a shield tank...btw plasma cannon is a fun weapon. Maybe try running it a bit before writing it off. One shot proto's and run off my gunnlogi...thing that sounds like a good trade off for the one shot reload. Of course you could always just say gg and hide. That works too. FG does 90% to shields. Flux grenades...maybe, but those were easy for Drivers to avoid pre 1.7, now vehicles are faster... I haven't tried the Plasma Cannon, but I have not really heard much good about it. "The true measure of a shinobi is not how he lives, but how he dies." *- The Toad Sage*
Sev Alcatraz Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 339	Posted - 2013.12.12 04:40:00 - [18] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: Commander Tzu wrote: Dear AV players, Thank you. I really mean it (I do), I don't know what I would have done if you guys had really all quit like your QQ stated. Can I get you something to drink? Tea, or coffee? I see you're distraught, we'll just get right to the point then. Thank you for failing so completely at adapting, thank you for spamming swarms at my shield tank while my hardeners are up. Thank you, if it weren't for your endless dedication to using the wrong weapons at the wrong times, I would actually have lost some tanks. You know, apart from the ones I have been losing by driving warp speed over ramps into the red line and not being able to get out in time. Some tankers are on the forums trying to make you angrier, I just want to say you're perfect the way you are, and you should not change a thing. Sincerely, Commander Tzu Enjoy it while it lasts What if it last forever ? what if this is the way things are supposed to be balanced? -A closed beta tanker
Maximus Stryker Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 723	Posted - 2013.12.12 04:42:00 - [19] - Quote Abron Garr wrote: i mean they didn't even know the active armor rep glitch for over a year. even in closed beta we thought it was supposed to do tht. XD Hell, the damn MLT injector bug will probably make it to 1.9 and the AR recoil exploit will probably last until my kids graduate from college.[/quote] How do you say "Wake up Shanghai!" in Chinese? TåÆµ¥ÑS+¡sà¦S+èµ¦+pÇé Thanks, Google Translate![/quote] What kind of ***** are you to want someone to lose their job over a video game?[/quote] What language should I Google translate next so that you can put your reading comprehension skills to use?[/quote] apparently "wake up" means "fire from job" and not "please see what we are seeing" Faction Channels for FW Staging** PIE Ground Control \| Caldari Hierarchy \| Turalyon \| Chosen Matari
Roy Ventus Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance 688	Posted - 2013.12.12 04:43:00 - [20] - Quote Commander Tzu wrote: Dear AV players, Thank you. I really mean it (I do), I don't know what I would have done if you guys had really all quit like your QQ stated. Can I get you something to drink? Tea, or coffee? I see you're distraught, we'll just get right to the point then. Thank you for failing so completely at adapting, thank you for spamming swarms at my shield tank while my hardeners are up. Thank you, if it weren't for your endless dedication to using the wrong weapons at the wrong times, I would actually have lost some tanks. You know, apart from the ones I have been losing by driving warp speed over ramps into the red line and not being able to get out in time. Some tankers are on the forums trying to make you angrier, I just want to say you're perfect the way you are, and you should not change a thing. Sincerely, Commander Tzu I'd like some tea please "There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all." Roy Ventus

Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 2581	Posted - 2013.12.12 04:48:00 - [21] - Quote Cosgar wrote: Abron Garr wrote: Cosgar wrote: BobThe 844-1 CakeMan wrote: Vee Abbey wrote: two days into update and you're talking like it'll last forever XD it'll be around for at least 2-3 months. minimum. they need data from the new patch they have been working on and to see if there really is a problem. but knowing CCP it will prob last 6 months to a year. i mean they didn't even know the active armor rep glitch for over a year. even in closed beta we thought it was supposed to do tht. XD Hell, the damn MLT injector bug will probably make it to 1.9 and the AR recoil exploit will probably last until my kids graduate from college. How do you say "Wake up Shanghai!" in Chinese? TåÆµ¥ÑS+¡sà¦S+èµ¦+pÇé Thanks, Google Translate! What kind of ******* are you to want someone to lose their job over a video game? If their job is making that video game? No.
Vrain Matari ZionTCD Public Disorder. 1350	Posted - 2013.12.12 04:54:00 - [22] - Quote Commander Tzu wrote: Dear AV players, Thank you. I really mean it (I do), I don't know what I would have done if you guys had really all quit like your QQ stated. Can I get you something to drink? Tea, or coffee? I see you're distraught, we'll just get right to the point then. Thank you for failing so completely at adapting, thank you for spamming swarms at my shield tank while my hardeners are up. Thank you, if it weren't for your endless dedication to using the wrong weapons at the wrong times, I would actually have lost some tanks. You know, apart from the ones I have been losing by driving warp speed over ramps into the red line and not being able to get out in time. Some tankers are on the forums trying to make you angrier, I just want to say you're perfect the way you are, and you should not change a thing. Sincerely, Commander Tzu I've been getting a lot more tank kills than before 1.7, but that's because tanks are breeding like rats and are so powerful that bad tankers are getting arrogant and stupid. Now the good tankers - has a single top tier tanker lost a tank yet to anything other than unpredictable f-ed up bad luck? I'm betting not many. So hard to tell with all the self-serving b*llshit on the forums. I support SP rollover.
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 4131	Posted - 2013.12.12 05:13:00 - [23] - Quote Yeah, my nicely fitted Militia Swarm build (it works better than that makes it sound) has contributed heavily to the deaths of several Dropships and a Gunnlogi, and I managed to kill a Soma after a friendly Gunnlogi screwed up and died while the thing had all its actives up. Wait for things to go on cooldown, then start firing, BOOM. Right place, right time, things can go our way. There are some issues - warp speed tanks, while hilarious, are a little off, and I think Swarms should at least interrupt shield regen while hardeners are up, even if we aren't doing real damage at that point. I've proposed a solution for that problem already, they just need to make the hardeners have a secondary effect of adjusting the damage threshold.
Flix Keptick Red Star. EoN. 1530	Posted - 2013.12.12 05:18:00 - [24] - Quote Master Jaraiya wrote: So tell me, genius, which is the "proper" weapon to use against shield Vehicles? Oh that's right there isn't one aside from the lolplasmacannon. You laugh but it can actually deals a considerable amount of damage. Also, blame ccp for not releasing more content/heavy laser weapon "HP needs no buff, certain weapons need nerf. Or else all other become obsolete." GÿåForum warrior lvl.1Gÿå
Mercenary Anti Armor Dust2Dust. Top Men. 18	Posted - 2013.12.12 05:23:00 - [25] - Quote Your Welcome I'll swarm the out of you guys
Reign Omega BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 58	Posted - 2013.12.12 05:37:00 - [26] - Quote I have seen a butt ton of tanks since 1.7, some are deadly, most are just annoying noisy placeholders messing up my pathway around the battlefield on foot...This sunday is Swarm Launcer sunday, where I will test the swarm changes on any and all vehicles. Learning the new AV tactics will be essential to takng down GOOD tanks when I see them, so I might as well practice on the funny guys jumping their tanks off of dirt ramps. I have yet to spec MY tanker as I am waiting for the heads up on whats BS and whatnot, so I might as well start on the AV side of the fence as I do every build... Tl:DR- Swarm Launcher Sundays. Live it, love it, launch it.
Vee Abbey Three-body Solution 32	Posted - 2013.12.12 06:44:00 - [27] - Quote wow... so much butthurt from infantry... Reign Omega wrote: This sunday is Swarm Launcer sunday, where I will test the swarm changes on any and all vehicles. Learning the new AV tactics will be essential to taking down GOOD tanks when I see them Tl:DR- Swarm Launcher Sundays. Live it, love it, launch it. We need more people working towards closing the gap post AV nerf not sore dimwits arguing about when is Nerfhammer gonna come (it'll come)
Reign Omega BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 58	Posted - 2013.12.12 06:50:00 - [28] - Quote That's exactly what I'm trying to do (I think?). I like the fact that playerbase input is so viable and influential in this game, but myself personally I at least try to adapt before I start the whining. I know that such abrupt and drastic change to peoples playstyles is painful in terms of time spent and effort to relearn the game, but awareness that the game will constantly change allows me to try and roll with the punches. Also....I love a challenge...
Baal Omniscient L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 827	Posted - 2013.12.12 09:27:00 - [29] - Quote Commander Tzu wrote: Dear AV players, Thank you. I really mean it (I do), I don't know what I would have done if you guys had really all quit like your QQ stated. Can I get you something to drink? Tea, or coffee? I see you're distraught, we'll just get right to the point then. Thank you for failing so completely at adapting, thank you for spamming swarms at my shield tank while my hardeners are up. Thank you, if it weren't for your endless dedication to using the wrong weapons at the wrong times, I would actually have lost some tanks. You know, apart from the ones I have been losing by driving warp speed over ramps into the red line and not being able to get out in time. Some tankers are on the forums trying to make you angrier, I just want to say you're perfect the way you are, and you should not change a thing. Sincerely, Commander Tzu I'll have a Scotch. On the rocks. MINMATAR ARISE! DEMAND that our race's suits be FIXED!!! MATARI PRIDE!! FIX TTK!!
Jack McReady DUST University Ivy League 839	Posted - 2013.12.12 09:32:00 - [30] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Also, since Tanks also had their overall HP reduced, when modules are taken into account, it is not bad at all. when modules are taken into account their EHP is beyond 20k that is twice as much as before



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