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Long Evity
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Posted - 2013.12.12 01:29:00 -
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So, I'm seeing a lot of responses from tankers replying to AV QQ, and it's mostly: It should always take team work to down a tank!
But, let's reverse that. It should also take teamwork to USE a tank.
It makes no sense for 1 player to be powerful enough that the other side needs to dedicate half a squad to deal with. Now, I'm not implying tanks should be solo'd, but the way they're used vs the way they're countered don't match up.
If it costs my team 3 AV'ers to push your tanks back - then it should cost the other side at least 2 players to use the tank properly.
So, my suggestion, is take away tanks ability to drive and shoot. They either pilot - or they shoot.
"If they implement this idea I'm quitting tanks!" Good, gtfo. Quitting tanks because you can't be a god on the field just proves you were only in it to be better then everyone else. Why are LAV and most DS limited to being the pilot or turret driver - but a tank, with more HP and power, doesn't?
"Assault dropships..." Still suck. Ever tried aiming with one? It's not as easy as it is a tank, so it's far more acceptable, not to mention how easy it is to push one off you or others, or just blow them up. 1v1, FG vs Assault DS - the FG still wins.
I am not who you think I am, only but just a dream.
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Long Evity
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Posted - 2013.12.12 01:31:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:You and Atiim have the same ideas.
*shudders*
Everyone will come to this conclusion eventually.
We all agree tanks shouldn't be solo'd, but it's too much that one player can be so dominating without a hard counter.
I am not who you think I am, only but just a dream.
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Long Evity
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Posted - 2013.12.12 01:34:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:Long Evity wrote:So, I'm seeing a lot of responses from tankers replying to AV QQ, and it's mostly: It should always take team work to down a tank!
But, let's reverse that. It should also take teamwork to USE a tank.
It makes no sense for 1 player to be powerful enough that the other side needs to dedicate half a squad to deal with. Now, I'm not implying tanks should be solo'd, but the way they're used vs the way they're countered don't match up.
If it costs my team 3 AV'ers to push your tanks back - then it should cost the other side at least 2 players to use the tank properly.
So, my suggestion, is take away tanks ability to drive and shoot. They either pilot - or they shoot.
"If they implement this idea I'm quitting tanks!" Good, gtfo. Quitting tanks because you can't be a god on the field just proves you were only in it to be better then everyone else. Why are LAV and most DS limited to being the pilot or turret driver - but a tank, with more HP and power, doesn't?
"Assault dropships..." Still suck. Ever tried aiming with one? It's not as easy as it is a tank, so it's far more acceptable, not to mention how easy it is to push one off you or others, or just blow them up. 1v1, FG vs Assault DS - the FG still wins.
It makes no sense for one person to be powerful enough that a whole team has to dedicate a squad of tankers to win...
wtf are you even talking about? What suit or situation requires 6 tanks to handle?
I am not who you think I am, only but just a dream.
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Long Evity
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Posted - 2013.12.12 01:41:00 -
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Bolded the part some seem to of missed when reading OP. Hopefully that helps. 
I am not who you think I am, only but just a dream.
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Long Evity
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Posted - 2013.12.12 01:47:00 -
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Son-Of A-Gun wrote:Long Evity wrote:So, I'm seeing a lot of responses from tankers replying to AV QQ, and it's mostly: It should always take team work to down a tank!
But, let's reverse that. It should also take teamwork to USE a tank.
It makes no sense for 1 player to be powerful enough that the other side needs to dedicate half a squad to deal with. Now, I'm not implying tanks should be solo'd, but the way they're used vs the way they're countered don't match up.
If it costs my team 3 AV'ers to push your tanks back - then it should cost the other side at least 2 players to use the tank properly.
So, my suggestion, is take away tanks ability to drive and shoot. They either pilot - or they shoot.
"If they implement this idea I'm quitting tanks!" Good, gtfo. Quitting tanks because you can't be a god on the field just proves you were only in it to be better then everyone else. Why are LAV and most DS limited to being the pilot or turret driver - but a tank, with more HP and power, doesn't?
"Assault dropships..." Still suck. Ever tried aiming with one? It's not as easy as it is a tank, so it's far more acceptable, not to mention how easy it is to push one off you or others, or just blow them up. 1v1, FG vs Assault DS - the FG still wins.
Didn't have to read much of the OP. when you infantry start paying the price of three proto dropsuits to bring one clone to the battle then I will be ok with infantry soloing tanks. ISK is the balance factor here. Someone (one person out of they're own pocket) is paying to bring in the value of three protos for one death. Team work should be required.
If you read the OP you'd feel dumb for posting this. I even highlighted the part I knew scrubs like you would miss.
EDIT: ah, in your quote it wasn't highlighted. So you're excused for missing it. 
I am not who you think I am, only but just a dream.
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Long Evity
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Posted - 2013.12.12 13:51:00 -
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knight of 6 wrote:this thread has been around since closed beta, your idea isn't new nor original. it has been answered 1000s of times conclusively.
NO
why? because tanking is expensive not only isk wise but SP wise as well. why should it take two people to operate a machine that I could literally have all my SP in, if I don't have a gunner I can't play. I'll burn in hell before another blueberry gets in my tank(offence intended blueberry gunners you are like cancer, I could gun better with only my feet).
"AVers should be able to solo tanks but it should take 2 people one person operating the legs and the other the av weapon"
"logis don't need a nerf but one person should operate the legs and another should aim and shoot"
no, why? what if I don't have my better half? should I just sit and twiddle my thumbs? OH wait I can't sit I just stare at my couch thinking how comfy it looks. *glares at CCP*
Did you read the post, or did you see keywords and your brain went numb?
And tank costs have been reduced.
I am not who you think I am, only but just a dream.
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Long Evity
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Posted - 2013.12.12 14:05:00 -
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knight of 6 wrote:So, I'm seeing a lot of responses from tankers replying to AV QQ, and it's mostly: It should always take team work to down a tank!
But, let's reverse that. It should also take teamwork to USE a tank.
it makes on sense that an armored vehicle shouldn't have a crew of operators.
If it costs my team 3 AV'ers to push your tanks back - then it should cost the other side at least 2 players to use the tank properly.
unoriginal Idea about separating driving and gunning
QQ,
no other vehicles do it why can you (bar ADS)
assault dropships suck so it's okay for them
read the OP!!!!!1!1! i bolded it for you!
Is this your attempt or trolling - or is this how the world is seen through your eyes? Lol
Not that I didn't expect tankers to come in here and QQ about this idea - obviously it's an old one, you're talking to someone whose been on the forums for longer then your entire corp.
But if tankers get to spout there bad logic so do the rest of us.
I am not who you think I am, only but just a dream.
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Long Evity
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Posted - 2013.12.12 14:20:00 -
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chase rowland wrote:Long Evity wrote:So, I'm seeing a lot of responses from tankers replying to AV QQ, and it's mostly: It should always take team work to down a tank!
But, let's reverse that. It should also take teamwork to USE a tank.
It makes no sense for 1 player to be powerful enough that the other side needs to dedicate half a squad to deal with. Now, I'm not implying tanks should be solo'd, but the way they're used vs the way they're countered don't match up.
If it costs my team 3 AV'ers to push your tanks back - then it should cost the other side at least 2 players to use the tank properly.
So, my suggestion, is take away tanks ability to drive and shoot. They either pilot - or they shoot.
"If they implement this idea I'm quitting tanks!" Good, gtfo. Quitting tanks because you can't be a god on the field just proves you were only in it to be better then everyone else. Why are LAV and most DS limited to being the pilot or turret driver - but a tank, with more HP and power, doesn't?
"Assault dropships..." Still suck. Ever tried aiming with one? It's not as easy as it is a tank, so it's far more acceptable, not to mention how easy it is to push one off you or others, or just blow them up. 1v1, FG vs Assault DS - the FG still wins.
I bolded the part some of you may of skipped over. if you hate vehicles then go to COD. this isn't COD, your posting in the wrong forums.
Yet another wild idiot appears.
"I DONT LIKE YOUR IDEA GO BACK TO COD!"
If you like tanks so ******* much how about you go play World of Tanks? Or better yet, break your console and PC and tell your internet company you don't need them anymore and do us all a favor so we don't get more posts from you screaming how ******** you are.
I am not who you think I am, only but just a dream.
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Long Evity
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Posted - 2013.12.12 14:33:00 -
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HYENAKILLER X wrote:Long Evity wrote:So, I'm seeing a lot of responses from tankers replying to AV QQ, and it's mostly: It should always take team work to down a tank!
But, let's reverse that. It should also take teamwork to USE a tank.
It makes no sense for 1 player to be powerful enough that the other side needs to dedicate half a squad to deal with. Now, I'm not implying tanks should be solo'd, but the way they're used vs the way they're countered don't match up.
If it costs my team 3 AV'ers to push your tanks back - then it should cost the other side at least 2 players to use the tank properly.
So, my suggestion, is take away tanks ability to drive and shoot. They either pilot - or they shoot.
"If they implement this idea I'm quitting tanks!" Good, gtfo. Quitting tanks because you can't be a god on the field just proves you were only in it to be better then everyone else. Why are LAV and most DS limited to being the pilot or turret driver - but a tank, with more HP and power, doesn't?
"Assault dropships..." Still suck. Ever tried aiming with one? It's not as easy as it is a tank, so it's far more acceptable, not to mention how easy it is to push one off you or others, or just blow them up. 1v1, FG vs Assault DS - the FG still wins.
I bolded the part some of you may of skipped over. Oooooooooor just let me equip an ar with my missle luancher.
It's called a commando suit. You're welcome.
I am not who you think I am, only but just a dream.
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