DUST Search - To everyone WHINING about TANKS

KING CHECKMATE wrote:

THE AV COMMUNITY DESERVES this.
They deserve the NERFS to all of our weapons.
They deserve to face the tanks of Odin, indestructible and Fast as a LAV.
They deserve to be in panic and frustration while vehicles rampage through maps unimpended.

Why?
Well while every single Tanker was here constantly whining about tanks being Underpowered, Av weaponry being Overpowered, we had Atiim,monkey,me and a VERY FEW others trying to keep Av powerful vs AV.
So all of you AV'ers and regular Infantry , READ our posts , and decided to ignore, willingly even while knowing that BEFORE 1.6 Tanks were already Pretty darn powerful,some of them tankers being simply unkillable.

So you sat back and grabbed your popcorn while a VERY FEW of us took on dozens of tankers requesting AV nerfs, tanks buffs and ridiculous stuff i sincerily didnt think CCP was dumb enough to implement (like VEHICLES being their real only true counter) and now you come here to QQ and shed tears of sadness because tanks wont let you get out of your red line?

So , the Vehicle community kept fighting to turn the balance strongly in their favor. While 4-6 of us fought to keep the balance BALANCED, or to infantry's favor.

we lost. we lost thanks to your SILENCE.

So now vehicles can do whatever they want. GOOD.
The AV community deserves this.

Have fun Vehicle Drivers/pilots. The Battleffield is YOURS.

GG o7

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KING CHECKMATE Scions of Athra 2972	Posted - 2013.12.12 00:20:00 - [1] - Quote THE AV COMMUNITY DESERVES this. They deserve the NERFS to all of our weapons. They deserve to face the tanks of Odin, indestructible and Fast as a LAV. They deserve to be in panic and frustration while vehicles rampage through maps unimpended. Why? Well while every single Tanker was here constantly whining about tanks being Underpowered, Av weaponry being Overpowered, we had Atiim,monkey,me and a VERY FEW others trying to keep Av powerful vs AV. So all of you AV'ers and regular Infantry , READ our posts , and decided to ignore, willingly even while knowing that BEFORE 1.6 Tanks were already Pretty darn powerful,some of them tankers being simply unkillable. So you sat back and grabbed your popcorn while a VERY FEW of us took on dozens of tankers requesting AV nerfs, tanks buffs and ridiculous stuff i sincerily didnt think CCP was dumb enough to implement (like VEHICLES being their real only true counter) and now you come here to QQ and shed tears of sadness because tanks wont let you get out of your red line? So , the Vehicle community kept fighting to turn the balance strongly in their favor. While 4-6 of us fought to keep the balance BALANCED, or to infantry's favor. we lost. we lost thanks to your SILENCE. So now vehicles can do whatever they want. GOOD. The AV community deserves this. Have fun Vehicle Drivers/pilots. The Battleffield is YOURS. GG o7 SCR User Since release. Charge shot / Aim to the head / Listen to QQ
Flix Keptick Red Star. EoN. 1523	Posted - 2013.12.12 00:21:00 - [2] - Quote I must add something DO NOT TRY TO TAKE OUT SHIELD TANKS WITH SWARMS, IT WON'T WORK!!!! Use the plasma cannon instead, it actually deals a significant amount of damage to shield tanks. And can be used to take out infantry (it requires a higher degree of skills than swarms, be warned) And thanks btw, I'm really enjoying myself "HP needs no buff, certain weapons need nerf. Or else all other become obsolete." GÿåForum warrior lvl.1Gÿå
Lorhak Gannarsein 670	Posted - 2013.12.12 00:22:00 - [3] - Quote No problem, we will. Cosgar: You know, tanks are actually paper thin once their modules are in cooldown. (Am too sleepy to quote properly)
Sgt Kirk SyNergy Gaming EoN. 3454	Posted - 2013.12.12 00:24:00 - [4] - Quote But I drive LAV with a gunner for frontline support. While now I only have to worry about swarms these Nascar tanks that are saturating the game are ruining everything. I had a tank catch up with my LAV, IN THE DAMN CITY COMPLEX.
TunRa RETR0 PR0 GAMERS INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS 260	Posted - 2013.12.12 00:25:00 - [5] - Quote For the glory of the REPUBLIC! I shall mite everyone with my tank! Thanks CCP Foxfour
Monkey MAC Lost Millennium 1193	Posted - 2013.12.12 00:25:00 - [6] - Quote Did you mean Money or Monkey? I have just one thing to add here. 10 secs into a match call in DS for squad transport, RDV request denied, team vehicle quto reached 15 secs less, no more than 5 tanks roll past. Tanks 514 I told you, I bloody well told you. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.1
OSGR Valdez TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 171	Posted - 2013.12.12 00:26:00 - [7] - Quote TANK 514 nuff said
TunRa RETR0 PR0 GAMERS INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS 260	Posted - 2013.12.12 00:27:00 - [8] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: Did you mean Money or Monkey? I have just one thing to add here. 10 secs into a match call in DS for squad transport, RDV request denied, team vehicle quto reached 15 secs less, no more than 5 tanks roll past. Hey, I'm having d+¬j+á vu you said earlier it was 7 tanks tho. Thanks CCP Foxfour
Soldiersaint Deepspace Digital 612	Posted - 2013.12.12 00:28:00 - [9] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: THE AV COMMUNITY DESERVES this. They deserve the NERFS to all of our weapons. They deserve to face the tanks of Odin, indestructible and Fast as a LAV. They deserve to be in panic and frustration while vehicles rampage through maps unimpended. Why? Well while every single Tanker was here constantly whining about tanks being Underpowered, Av weaponry being Overpowered, we had Atiim,money,me and a VERY FEW others trying to keep Av powerful vs AV. So all of you AV'ers and regular Infantry , READ our posts , and decided to ignore, willingly even while knowing that BEFORE 1.6 Tanks were already Pretty darn powerful,some of them tankers being simply unkillable. So you sat back and grabbed your popcorn while a VERY FEW of us took on dozens of tankers requesting AV nerfs, tanks buffs and ridiculous stuff i sincerily didnt think CCP was dumb enough to implement (like VEHICLES being their real only true counter) and now you come here to QQ and shed tears of sadness because tanks wont let you get out of your red line? So , the Vehicle community kept fighting to turn the balance strongly in their favor. While 4-6 of us fought to keep the balance BALANCED, or to infantry's favor. we lost. we lost thanks to your SILENCE. So now vehicles can do whatever they want. GOOD. The AV community deserves this. Have fun Vehicle Drivers/pilots. The Battleffield is YOURS. GG o7 I would love to help but there is no way in hell any one would ever take me seriously .
Flix Keptick Red Star. EoN. 1523	Posted - 2013.12.12 00:28:00 - [10] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: But I drive LAV with a gunner for frontline support. While now I only have to worry about swarms these Nascar tanks that are saturating the game are ruining everything. I had a tank catch up with my LAV, IN THE DAMN CITY COMPLEX. Those damm nitrous mods need fixing asap, I was driving towards a rail tank (madrugar of course) in my suicide lav. It saw me and went from a full stop TO OUTRUNNING MY FREAKING LAV. THAT'S ******* unbalanced and as a true tank driver I swear to you that I do not want this, it's stupid. No real self-respecting tank driver uses those militia nitrous mods (except for the occasional lol). Only people that abuse mechanics do "HP needs no buff, certain weapons need nerf. Or else all other become obsolete." GÿåForum warrior lvl.1Gÿå

KING CHECKMATE Scions of Athra 2975	Posted - 2013.12.12 00:29:00 - [11] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: Did you mean Money or Monkey? I have just one thing to add here. 10 secs into a match call in DS for squad transport, RDV request denied, team vehicle quto reached 15 secs less, no more than 5 tanks roll past. Fixed SCR User Since release. Charge shot / Aim to the head / Listen to QQ
Alena Ventrallis Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 263	Posted - 2013.12.12 00:29:00 - [12] - Quote Even if I don't agree with your ideas all the time, I always had a respect foreign them, because most times it was coming from a place of logic instead of emotion. I think CCP did well with the AV Nerf, but they did vehicles a little too hardcore. Tone them down a notch or two, and we will be in a pretty good place for both sides.
Monkey MAC Lost Millennium 1195	Posted - 2013.12.12 00:29:00 - [13] - Quote TunRa wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: Did you mean Money or Monkey? I have just one thing to add here. 10 secs into a match call in DS for squad transport, RDV request denied, team vehicle quto reached 15 secs less, no more than 5 tanks roll past. Hey, I'm having d+¬j+á vu you said earlier it was 7 tanks tho. 7, 5 I lost count, there were that many! Tanks 514 I told you, I bloody well told you. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.1
KING CHECKMATE Scions of Athra 2975	Posted - 2013.12.12 00:30:00 - [14] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: But I drive LAV with a gunner for frontline support. While now I only have to worry about swarms these Nascar tanks that are saturating the game are ruining everything. I had a tank catch up with my LAV, IN THE DAMN CITY COMPLEX. Werent you one of the people in favor of boosting tanks? Suck it up then... The AV nerf was bad enough considering pre 1.7 tanks were already pretty hardcore sometimes. But as always, DUST514 community needs EZ mode. EZ mode Assault versions of everything so thy can spray an pray. EZ mode AA, Ez mode tanks, EZ mode armor plates.. and so on... SCR User Since release. Charge shot / Aim to the head / Listen to QQ
I-Shayz-I I-----I 1609	Posted - 2013.12.12 00:31:00 - [15] - Quote The vehicle changes are actually pretty awesome. Dropships have to take a few hits from my forge, LAVs take 2 AV grenades, and I can take out about 80% of all tanks that don't have fuel injectors. The fact that one second a tank is in front of forge gun taking hits, and the next second is on the other side of the map though...5 seconds later coming back with full health to the exact spot I was at, that's the problem. If tanks weren't so speedy I'd actually have more tank kills as of now. Heck, I even tried the whole suicide LAV just for fun and the tank literally stopped on a dime, and started driving backwards faster than I could drive normally right when he saw me coming at me. Too bad though, cause that's when I activated the injector of my own and was only then able to catch up to him. I honestly don't mind these modules, but 30-50% is really the most that they need to be...and a complex module for that matter. Links: List of Most Important Threads I make logistics videos!
Aeon Amadi A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. Renegade Alliance 4095	Posted - 2013.12.12 00:32:00 - [16] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: THE AV COMMUNITY DESERVES this. They deserve the NERFS to all of our weapons. They deserve to face the tanks of Odin, indestructible and Fast as a LAV. They deserve to be in panic and frustration while vehicles rampage through maps unimpended. Why? Well while every single Tanker was here constantly whining about tanks being Underpowered, Av weaponry being Overpowered, we had Atiim,monkey,me and a VERY FEW others trying to keep Av powerful vs AV. So all of you AV'ers and regular Infantry , READ our posts , and decided to ignore, willingly even while knowing that BEFORE 1.6 Tanks were already Pretty darn powerful,some of them tankers being simply unkillable. So you sat back and grabbed your popcorn while a VERY FEW of us took on dozens of tankers requesting AV nerfs, tanks buffs and ridiculous stuff i sincerily didnt think CCP was dumb enough to implement (like VEHICLES being their real only true counter) and now you come here to QQ and shed tears of sadness because tanks wont let you get out of your red line? So , the Vehicle community kept fighting to turn the balance strongly in their favor. While 4-6 of us fought to keep the balance BALANCED, or to infantry's favor. we lost. we lost thanks to your SILENCE. So now vehicles can do whatever they want. GOOD. The AV community deserves this. Have fun Vehicle Drivers/pilots. The Battleffield is YOURS. GG o7 Pssh - I just wanted the Plasma Cannon to be a legitimate AV weapon, being as the Gallente have none... forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m= (Frames)1544109 (Advertisement)1556863 (Packs)1570030 (Lag Hunt) 1570201
Vyzion Eyri The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 2210	Posted - 2013.12.12 00:32:00 - [17] - Quote Looks like the best way to counter tanks is with other tanks. I like this, we just need to tone down the infantry-slaying aspect of blaster turrets a little more. Less RoF, more damage. Essentially the rof should be so slow that infantry can run in front of the blaster without being hit, but the damage should kill off most unfitted suits in one hit. Almost like a sniper at medium range. This would in no way impact on their ability to kill tanks since they're such big targets. "When nothing is going your way, go out of your way to do nothing."
KING CHECKMATE Scions of Athra 2975	Posted - 2013.12.12 00:33:00 - [18] - Quote I-Shayz-I wrote: The vehicle changes are actually pretty awesome. Dropships have to take a few hits from my forge, LAVs take 2 AV grenades, and I can take out about 80% of all tanks that don't have fuel injectors. The fact that one second a tank is in front of forge gun taking hits, and the next second is on the other side of the map though...5 seconds later coming back with full health to the exact spot I was at, that's the problem. If tanks weren't so speedy I'd actually have more tank kills as of now. Heck, I even tried the whole suicide LAV just for fun and the tank literally stopped on a dime, and started driving backwards faster than I could drive normally right when he saw me coming at me. Too bad though, cause that's when I activated the injector of my own and was only then able to catch up to him. I honestly don't mind these modules, but 30-50% is really the most that they need to be...and a complex module for that matter. You;ve been lucky TILL now. I've been Tank stomped by 4-5+ tanks most games in the last 3 hours. SCR User Since release. Charge shot / Aim to the head / Listen to QQ
Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 1190	Posted - 2013.12.12 00:33:00 - [19] - Quote It's sad that the real AV vs Vehicle conflict doesn't happen on the battlefield, but on the forums. Both parties wanted to be OP, neither really wanted balance. Fizzer94 // Level 1 Forum Warrior // The Plasma Cannon is NOT underpowered
KING CHECKMATE Scions of Athra 2975	Posted - 2013.12.12 00:34:00 - [20] - Quote Vyzion Eyri wrote: Looks like the best way to counter tanks is with other tanks. I like this, we just need to tone down the infantry-slaying aspect of blaster turrets a little more. Less RoF, more damage. Essentially the rof should be so slow that infantry can run in front of the blaster without being hit, but the damage should kill off most unfitted suits in one hit. Almost like a sniper at medium range. This would in no way impact on their ability to kill tanks since they're such big targets. Or just remove Blasters completley. SCR User Since release. Charge shot / Aim to the head / Listen to QQ

Master Jaraiya Ultramarine Corp 1367	Posted - 2013.12.12 00:37:00 - [21] - Quote I fought to keep the Forge Guns balanced against vehicles. I fought like hell too! What did I hear from AR infantry crybabies?: "You just wanna keep your EZMODEKRUTCHKILLALLWEAPONHTFUGETGUDSCRUB" Now, 3 blasts from my Wyirikomi Breach FG isn't enough to take down a dropship without its Hardeners or Reps activated. (I have Prof. 3 and 2 Comp. Dmg Mods)... ...my 1600 HP Proto Heavy suit can get 3 shotted by Small Missile turret Splash Damage before I can charge one shot with the Breach FG makes perfect sense. GG o7 "The true measure of a shinobi is not how he lives, but how he dies." *- The Toad Sage*
R F Gyro Clones 4u 811	Posted - 2013.12.12 00:38:00 - [22] - Quote Tanks and infantry can't be balanced until people figure out that number of players is the primary constraint in Dust battles. Balancing on ISK or SP or anything else just won't work. Keep trying though. Its fun to watch it go back and forth. RF Gyro: 12.5% damage bonus; 10.5% rate of fire bonus
castba Penguin's March 252	Posted - 2013.12.12 00:38:00 - [23] - Quote I like the "waves of opportunity" and buffed damage for tanks actually, what I don't like is the outrageous speed of tanks. Yeah, the propulsion modules are broken I hear (100% speed increase instead of the stated 10%), but the tanks themselves have higher speed rating prior to fitment of modules than LAVs do. Very odd decision CCP.
J4yne C0bb Molon Labe. 116	Posted - 2013.12.12 00:41:00 - [24] - Quote Actually, as a forge gunner, I'm not dissatisfied with how powerful tanks are at the moment. I think they are ok... more difficult to kill, but not impossible. Can't solo them (or drops ships, either, it seems), which is fair. The speed glitch is obviously ridiculous and needs to be addressed, but I have to admit, I've been having fun -- certainly less boring. Anyways, most of you new tankers suck a$$ at the moment, so everything is pretty lolworthy from my prespective. I should have been killed dead-to-rights a number of times last night, and would have been by any decent tanker in the game... seems like every Red thinks they can drop a tank and just start blowing the ** out of everybody... it's been fun teaching them otherwise I'll prolly change my mind once these new jokers get some more practice under their belt. Min Logi \| aka Punch R0ckgroin** - fatsuit \| My Theme Music
DoomTree's Clone Titans of Phoenix 1	Posted - 2013.12.12 00:42:00 - [25] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: THE AV COMMUNITY DESERVES this. They deserve the NERFS to all of our weapons. They deserve to face the tanks of Odin, indestructible and Fast as a LAV. They deserve to be in panic and frustration while vehicles rampage through maps unimpended. Why? Well while every single Tanker was here constantly whining about tanks being Underpowered, Av weaponry being Overpowered, we had Atiim,monkey,me and a VERY FEW others trying to keep Av powerful vs AV. So all of you AV'ers and regular Infantry , READ our posts , and decided to ignore, willingly even while knowing that BEFORE 1.6 Tanks were already Pretty darn powerful,some of them tankers being simply unkillable. So you sat back and grabbed your popcorn while a VERY FEW of us took on dozens of tankers requesting AV nerfs, tanks buffs and ridiculous stuff i sincerily didnt think CCP was dumb enough to implement (like VEHICLES being their real only true counter) and now you come here to QQ and shed tears of sadness because tanks wont let you get out of your red line? So , the Vehicle community kept fighting to turn the balance strongly in their favor. While 4-6 of us fought to keep the balance BALANCED, or to infantry's favor. we lost. we lost thanks to your SILENCE. So now vehicles can do whatever they want. GOOD. The AV community deserves this. Have fun Vehicle Drivers/pilots. The Battleffield is YOURS. GG o7 cmon man tanks are pack animals now.it take 6 shots from a proto forge gun w/ a dmg mod how come it has to take a team effort? team av is dead and theres still no sign of its return. i cant rally av guys and i cant do it by myself. all the whilist dust is continuing to go backwards in technology a javelin from a us marine can dominate any tank on the face of the planet. its a really unfun game when u have to ignore a tank to get any sort of enjoyment. i dont understand ccp. did they really not forsee this happening? do i and others like me deserve this beating? YOU GO TO EXTREAMS WHEN BUFFING AND NERFING CANT YOU JUST GIVE UP TRYING TO MAKE THINGS EVEN?! BECAUSE ITS OBVIOUS YOU DONT HAVE A CLUE WHAT IS VIABLE. research and development means nothing does it? this game makes us all angry but when you **** off infantry theres clearly a problem
Master Jaraiya Ultramarine Corp 1367	Posted - 2013.12.12 00:43:00 - [26] - Quote castba wrote: I like the "waves of opportunity" and buffed damage for tanks actually, what I don't like is the outrageous speed of tanks. Yeah, the propulsion modules are broken I hear (100% speed increase instead of the stated 10%), but the tanks themselves have higher speed rating prior to fitment of modules than LAVs do. Very odd decision CCP. Precisely this. By the time my "wave of opportunity" presents itself, the HAV has emptied al his ammo into my squad, and is beyond the redline resupplying and in module cooldown, gearing up for his next "wave of opportunity" to attack. "The true measure of a shinobi is not how he lives, but how he dies." *- The Toad Sage*
KING CHECKMATE Scions of Athra 2980	Posted - 2013.12.12 00:47:00 - [27] - Quote J4yne C0bb wrote: Actually, as a forge gunner, I'm not dissatisfied with how powerful tanks are at the moment. I think they are ok... more difficult to kill, but not impossible. Can't solo them (or drops ships, either, it seems), which is fair. . There by your opinion is meaningless. 1 PLAYER playing ALONE should be able to be tanken down by ANOTHER player playing ALONE. Regardless of EQUIPMENT or time playing the game,or ISK invested.... ITS CALLED BALANCE. SCR User Since release. Charge shot / Aim to the head / Listen to QQ
Phazoid The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 134	Posted - 2013.12.12 00:49:00 - [28] - Quote JAJAJAAJJAAJAJAJAJAAJAJA, wait until scouts get buffed, not even those hardeners will save you Ib'tuur jatne tuur ash'ad kyr'amur (Today is a good day for someone else to die).
Yelhsa Jin-Mao PROTO RETRIBUTION 212	Posted - 2013.12.12 00:51:00 - [29] - Quote JIhad Jeep tanks all tanks FYI. I can has ISK
Beck Weathers Ghosts of Dawn General Tso's Alliance 198	Posted - 2013.12.12 00:52:00 - [30] - Quote A rail sica is super cheep and anyone can use it, get 1 or two and sneak up on even a proto tanker and hes dead meat



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