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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
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Posted - 2013.12.11 09:57:00 -
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AV success should not be measured exclusively in vehicle destruction. AV can play a vital role be simply keeping enemy vehicles at bay, yet rewards are only given out for destructions. It wasn't always like this, back in closed beta there use to be WP rewards for just damaging a vehicle, this needs to come back. Just scaring away a tank is a valuable service to your team, and it needs to be rewarded accordingly.
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Chesyre Armundsen
Thanes Of Dust
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Posted - 2013.12.11 09:59:00 -
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With this build it's almost the only service an AVer can do for his team
"May the gods place the burden upon us"
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Baal Omniscient
L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.12.11 11:36:00 -
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It's time to pull this old idea back outta the closet, eh?
Well, as I always, I approve. Now would definitely be the time when it is needed most.
MINMATAR ARISE! DEMAND that our race's suits be FIXED!!!
MATARI PRIDE!!
FIX TTK!!
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Baal Omniscient
L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder.
825
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Posted - 2013.12.12 00:47:00 -
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bump
MINMATAR ARISE! DEMAND that our race's suits be FIXED!!!
MATARI PRIDE!!
FIX TTK!!
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
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Posted - 2013.12.12 21:29:00 -
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Do it
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Flix Keptick
Red Star. EoN.
1547
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Posted - 2013.12.12 21:55:00 -
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I also made a thread about this. Link is in my signature actually
Making AV an actual role
GÿåTank DriverGÿå
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
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Posted - 2013.12.19 20:33:00 -
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Do it!
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
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Posted - 2013.12.30 13:06:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:Do it! What that guy said
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
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Posted - 2014.01.09 22:55:00 -
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Seriously needs to happen
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Text Grant
Death Firm. Canis Eliminatus Operatives
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Posted - 2014.01.10 03:46:00 -
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I'd personally rather have a few more "kill" war points from my AV. Tanks are OP |
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TheEnd762
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
357
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Posted - 2014.01.10 04:03:00 -
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Text Grant wrote:I'd personally rather have a few more "kill" war points from my AV. Tanks are OP
At least this way we could put the WP towards orbitals, one of the only tank-killing methods available now. |
Jason Pearson
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Posted - 2014.01.10 05:14:00 -
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Definitely needed
King of the Forums // Vehicle Specialist for Hire \\ Bad Mathematician
You're a total git, Jason. - Kingbabar
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Jack Boost
Zarena Family
298
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Posted - 2014.01.10 09:45:00 -
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Sure doing about 50k-70k dmg to vehicles, died about 4 times and .. dont kill any HAV/dropship...(200-300 wp) is more viable then drop 5 nano as logi, dont do any dmg and go hide with about 3k wp at end of battle.
Maybe someday.
But who knows what CCP thinks. |
PEW JACKSON
Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance
175
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Posted - 2014.01.10 11:07:00 -
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I'll just toss this in here.
Enemy Asset Damage + 35 Those 35 wp get awarded for every 1000 ehp dmg done to enemy installations and vehicles.
Guarantee you'll start seeing logis running around with 4-5 dmg modded swarms. Oh, and heavies? Forge spam :)
Dead on the ground.... Think I made a wrong turn :/
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Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
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Posted - 2014.01.10 11:23:00 -
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buff AV a little leave tanks and dropships as they are and it should all work out.
and no to giving points for hp dmg done as it could lead to damage farming, points paid out for destruction works well enough |
PEW JACKSON
Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance
175
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Posted - 2014.01.10 11:36:00 -
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Apothecary Za'ki wrote:buff AV a little leave tanks and dropships as they are and it should all work out.
and no to giving points for hp dmg done as it could lead to damage farming, points paid out for destruction works well enough
Ummm no.
Vehicles can easily profit by farming installations, vehicles, and infantry.
Av can easily lose money by trying to kill a tank.
I can average 1500 wp a game in a rail tank. While Av may get 200 for a couple installations on our side.
Dead on the ground.... Think I made a wrong turn :/
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Hyborean Strain
Immortal Guides
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Posted - 2014.01.10 15:59:00 -
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I love this idea. I frequently use swarms to run off enemy vehicles, but hardly ever get any vehicle kills. It can be an important role on a battlefield and should be rewarded to some degree at least.
It would give AV a purpose again, and would definitely contribute to rocket spam. So much beautiful rocket spam. |
Melchiah ARANeAE
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
414
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Posted - 2014.01.10 16:19:00 -
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The reason they removed it in the first place was because it was easy for farming WP. Now, however, with the global limiter that prevents WP farming they're seriously considering putting it back in.
I'd like to see it at about 2 WP for 100 HP Damage. That way there would actually be a bigger reward for using better AV without having to increase you damage by 1000.
We want cake and tea.
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PEW JACKSON
Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance
176
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Posted - 2014.01.10 16:42:00 -
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Melchiah ARANeAE wrote:The reason they removed it in the first place was because it was easy for farming WP. Now, however, with the global limiter that prevents WP farming they're seriously considering putting it back in.
I'd like to see it at about 2 WP for 100 HP Damage. That way there would actually be a bigger reward for using better AV without having to increase you damage by 1000.
I think it's easier on everyone's part to track at 1000 ehp dmg.
We have lag from low processing power on the ps3. I think it'd be a smaller load to track 1k dmg.
If someone is dedicated to AV, I definitely think they should get WPs that rival Logi gains.
Dead on the ground.... Think I made a wrong turn :/
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Melchiah ARANeAE
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
415
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Posted - 2014.01.10 16:58:00 -
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PEW JACKSON wrote:Melchiah ARANeAE wrote:The reason they removed it in the first place was because it was easy for farming WP. Now, however, with the global limiter that prevents WP farming they're seriously considering putting it back in.
I'd like to see it at about 2 WP for 100 HP Damage. That way there would actually be a bigger reward for using better AV without having to increase you damage by 1000. I think it's easier on everyone's part to track at 1000 ehp dmg. We have lag from low processing power on the ps3. I think it'd be a smaller load to track 1k dmg. If someone is dedicated to AV, I definitely think they should get WPs that rival Logi gains.
I seriously doubt it'd have any effect on lag. It wouldn't be the PS3 processing how many WP you'd gain. Tranquility would be doing all the calculations and just send the figure to the client. Simple.
Also, 2 WP per 100 HP would give you about 30 WP for every FG hit. That's pretty decent WP for shooting a tank once.
We want cake and tea.
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TheEnd762
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
357
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Posted - 2014.01.10 17:19:00 -
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20 WP per 500 vehicle damage, rounded up. |
PEW JACKSON
Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance
176
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Posted - 2014.01.10 18:04:00 -
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Melchiah ARANeAE wrote:PEW JACKSON wrote:Melchiah ARANeAE wrote:The reason they removed it in the first place was because it was easy for farming WP. Now, however, with the global limiter that prevents WP farming they're seriously considering putting it back in.
I'd like to see it at about 2 WP for 100 HP Damage. That way there would actually be a bigger reward for using better AV without having to increase you damage by 1000. I think it's easier on everyone's part to track at 1000 ehp dmg. We have lag from low processing power on the ps3. I think it'd be a smaller load to track 1k dmg. If someone is dedicated to AV, I definitely think they should get WPs that rival Logi gains. I seriously doubt it'd have any effect on lag. It wouldn't be the PS3 processing how many WP you'd gain. Tranquility would be doing all the calculations and just send the figure to the client. Simple. Also, 2 WP per 100 HP would give you about 30 WP for every FG hit. That's pretty decent WP for shooting a tank once.
Orr. We could leave it at every 1k ehp dmg and give that same heavy 35 Wp for the same exact thing......
Dead on the ground.... Think I made a wrong turn :/
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bogeyman m
Learning Coalition College
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Posted - 2014.01.15 04:30:00 -
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Melchiah ARANeAE wrote:PEW JACKSON wrote:Melchiah ARANeAE wrote:The reason they removed it in the first place was because it was easy for farming WP. Now, however, with the global limiter that prevents WP farming they're seriously considering putting it back in.
I'd like to see it at about 2 WP for 100 HP Damage. That way there would actually be a bigger reward for using better AV without having to increase you damage by 1000. I think it's easier on everyone's part to track at 1000 ehp dmg. We have lag from low processing power on the ps3. I think it'd be a smaller load to track 1k dmg. If someone is dedicated to AV, I definitely think they should get WPs that rival Logi gains. I seriously doubt it'd have any effect on lag. It wouldn't be the PS3 processing how many WP you'd gain. Tranquility would be doing all the calculations and just send the figure to the client. Simple. Also, 2 WP per 100 HP would give you about 30 WP for every FG hit. That's pretty decent WP for shooting a tank once.
I very much agree in rewarding ALL players for damage caused (in addition to everything else), but 30 WP seems a bit rich... How about simply 1 WP per 100 damage done? For me (as a dedicated AVer) that's 150-200 damage WP added to the 2-3 kills (vehicles and/or infantry), 8-10 assists and 3-4 hacks I typically get per match and I'm in the 800-1,000 WP range. I'll take that. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
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Posted - 2014.01.15 18:34:00 -
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COOOOOME OOOOON! Do it already
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