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knight of 6
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.12.11 03:50:00 -
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it has actually decreased, we just accelerate and decelerate faster now.
"God favors the side with the best artillery" ~ Napoleon
Ko6, scout, tanker.
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Mobius Wyvern
Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY
4052
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Posted - 2013.12.11 03:51:00 -
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knight of 6 wrote:it has actually decreased, we just accelerate and decelerate faster now. Also the Militia Nitrous is bugged at 100% instead of 10%.
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
4593
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Posted - 2013.12.11 03:53:00 -
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Dat injector... I tried to go up a hill, activated an injector, and my tank nearly turned into a frigate.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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knight of 6
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
804
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Posted - 2013.12.11 03:54:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:knight of 6 wrote:it has actually decreased, we just accelerate and decelerate faster now. Also the Militia Nitrous is bugged at 100% instead of 10%. wouldn't know, drive a shield tank... but somebody in shanghai better get on that it might be game breaking for some, and the best module EVAR for others.
"God favors the side with the best artillery" ~ Napoleon
Ko6, scout, tanker.
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Ivy Zalinto
Bobbit's Hangmen
142
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Posted - 2013.12.11 03:55:00 -
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yeah this is actually true. I kinda questioned that a while back when I saw it next to my logi lav. Acceleration actually feels nice now though.
Dedicated scout.
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Jadek Menaheim
Xer Cloud Consortium
663
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Posted - 2013.12.11 03:55:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Dat injector... I tried to go up a hill, activated an injector, and my tank nearly turned into a frigate. It's a hovercraft now...CCP, where is that water you teased us with?
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Ghost Kaisar
THIRD EARTH INCORPORATED Dark Taboo
1040
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Posted - 2013.12.11 03:55:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Dat injector... I tried to go up a hill, activated an injector, and my tank nearly turned into a frigate.
AND WE HAVE LIFTOFF
"All war is deception." "He who knows when he can fight and when he cannot, will be victorious" -Sun Tzu
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BobThe 844-1 CakeMan
Murder Cakes Of Doom
1217
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Posted - 2013.12.11 04:13:00 -
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nitrous is def better. as my tank is faster than ever before. maybe tht's because i no longer an armor plate thou. O_o
Tank driver. 10 mil SP in tanks 8 mil into infantry.
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DJINN Marauder
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
3263
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Posted - 2013.12.11 04:14:00 -
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Bullshit there not faster. If acceleration really was the only thing changed then they need to buff lav speed or nerf tank speed
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Jadek Menaheim
Xer Cloud Consortium
664
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Posted - 2013.12.11 05:02:00 -
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DJINN Marauder wrote:Bullshit there not faster. If acceleration really was the only thing changed then they need to buff lav speed or nerf tank speed Have you tried LAVs lately? I feel like Korben Dallas being able to escape the Cops with my flying taxi!
I wonder how many points I have left on my FW contract license
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Our Deepest Regret
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
351
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Posted - 2013.12.11 05:08:00 -
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DJINN Marauder wrote:Bullshit there not faster. If acceleration really was the only thing changed then they need to buff lav speed or nerf tank speed
It's physics, man. An object with more mass at top acceleration will always be faster than a lighter object. If you race past a tank, and there's plenty of open space in front of you, he's definitely gonna catch you. |
LuckyLuke Wargan
HavoK Core RISE of LEGION
248
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Posted - 2013.12.11 05:20:00 -
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knight of 6 wrote:it has actually decreased, we just accelerate and decelerate faster now. Yeah? How do you explain a tank (sitting still i might add) i was literally next to when I started swarming it went away from me at least twice the new lock on range in a mere 2 seconds? By the way, swarms used to be difficult to kill tanks with, now it is nearly impossible. I hope you whiners are happy now. R.I.P swarms... we had a good run together.
"Cry HavoK!, and let slip the dogs of war!"
-Medical/Intel Logibro and Swarm Commando-
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DJINN Marauder
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
3272
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Posted - 2013.12.11 05:22:00 -
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Our Deepest Regret wrote:DJINN Marauder wrote:Bullshit there not faster. If acceleration really was the only thing changed then they need to buff lav speed or nerf tank speed It's physics, man. An object with more mass at top acceleration will always be faster than a lighter object. If you race past a tank, and there's plenty of open space in front of you, he's definitely gonna catch you. The most unrealistic part of terminator 2 wasn't the time traveling cyborgs, it was that kid's dirt bike and Arnold's Harley both staying in front of a semi for ten minutes. The problem is, with tanks being this fast and cheap(mlt) ... What's the point of using lavs to get to places when you can just use a tank?
Game balance is more important that real life mechanics / physics
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Our Deepest Regret
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
351
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Posted - 2013.12.11 05:25:00 -
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LuckyLuke Wargan wrote:knight of 6 wrote:it has actually decreased, we just accelerate and decelerate faster now. Yeah? How do you explain a tank (sitting still i might add) i was literally next to when I started swarming it went away from me at least twice the new lock on range in a mere 2 seconds? By the way, swarms used to be difficult to kill tanks with, now it is nearly impossible. I hope you whiners are happy now. R.I.P swarms... we had a good run together.
That is not true at all. If you couldn't solo a 1.5 million isk madrugar with a wirykomi, then you were doing something wrong.
Tanks are not beasting over everyone else. They are being checked hard by other tanks, and drop ships. |
Flix Keptick
Red Star. EoN.
1513
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Posted - 2013.12.11 05:27:00 -
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I was rolling backwards and activated the nitrous right before hitting a hill. I'm pretty sure it qualified as a sub-orbital jump.
"HP needs no buff, certain weapons need nerf. Or else all other become obsolete."
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Flix Keptick
Red Star. EoN.
1513
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Posted - 2013.12.11 05:30:00 -
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"Korben my men, what do we do now?"-ruby Aaah, such a good movie
"HP needs no buff, certain weapons need nerf. Or else all other become obsolete."
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Xocoyol Zaraoul
Superior Genetics
1664
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Posted - 2013.12.11 05:39:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:Also the Militia Nitrous is bugged at 100% instead of 10%.
This, dear god
I watched two missile tanks ramp past each other, doing a mid-air alphastrike like some insane over-the-top action movie.
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LuckyLuke Wargan
HavoK Core RISE of LEGION
250
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Posted - 2013.12.11 05:50:00 -
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Our Deepest Regret wrote:LuckyLuke Wargan wrote:knight of 6 wrote:it has actually decreased, we just accelerate and decelerate faster now. Yeah? How do you explain a tank (sitting still i might add) i was literally next to when I started swarming it went away from me at least twice the new lock on range in a mere 2 seconds? By the way, swarms used to be difficult to kill tanks with, now it is nearly impossible. I hope you whiners are happy now. R.I.P swarms... we had a good run together. That is not true at all. If you couldn't solo a 1.5 million isk madrugar with a wirykomi, then you were doing something wrong. Tanks are not beasting over everyone else. They are being checked hard by other tanks, and drop ships. The cheap price tag means you're seeing more tanks on the field, meaning tanks are spending more time fighting each other than hunting infantry. Hm? Scuse me, I hit 3 times, and the 4th hit, would finally have been the finishing move, but then it drove off. Yes, 3 hits of full proto volleys and it was still kicking, nothing wrong on my part.
"Cry HavoK!, and let slip the dogs of war!"
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knight of 6
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
813
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Posted - 2013.12.11 13:14:00 -
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LuckyLuke Wargan wrote:Our Deepest Regret wrote:LuckyLuke Wargan wrote:knight of 6 wrote:it has actually decreased, we just accelerate and decelerate faster now. Yeah? How do you explain a tank (sitting still i might add) i was literally next to when I started swarming it went away from me at least twice the new lock on range in a mere 2 seconds? By the way, swarms used to be difficult to kill tanks with, now it is nearly impossible. I hope you whiners are happy now. R.I.P swarms... we had a good run together. That is not true at all. If you couldn't solo a 1.5 million isk madrugar with a wirykomi, then you were doing something wrong. Tanks are not beasting over everyone else. They are being checked hard by other tanks, and drop ships. The cheap price tag means you're seeing more tanks on the field, meaning tanks are spending more time fighting each other than hunting infantry. Hm? Scuse me, I hit 3 times, and the 4th hit, would finally have been the finishing move, but then it drove off. Yes, 3 hits of full proto volleys and it was still kicking, nothing wrong on my part. that's cute, first off, the armor tanks have a higher top speed than shield tanks, they also have a long acceleration time. many tankers are getting around the acceleration time by using nos, which is completely fair. secondly you can't kill a hardened tank, sorry, it's just not gonna happen anymore. the good news is a hardener lasts 24 - 30 seconds on a shield tank if you can catch them out of cycle or alpha strike them with 2 or 3 swarms when they don't have a hardener up they will pop.
I don't know how armor tanks work, I'm surprised to see as many as I currently do. you may be able to kill them while they're hardened but I seriously doubt it. however it will probably take multiple people to do.
if you couldn't solo a tank with proto swarms in 1.6 you are bad and should feel bad.
"God favors the side with the best artillery" ~ Napoleon
Ko6, scout, tanker.
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
2236
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Posted - 2013.12.11 13:21:00 -
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knight of 6 wrote:LuckyLuke Wargan wrote:Our Deepest Regret wrote:LuckyLuke Wargan wrote:knight of 6 wrote:it has actually decreased, we just accelerate and decelerate faster now. Yeah? How do you explain a tank (sitting still i might add) i was literally next to when I started swarming it went away from me at least twice the new lock on range in a mere 2 seconds? By the way, swarms used to be difficult to kill tanks with, now it is nearly impossible. I hope you whiners are happy now. R.I.P swarms... we had a good run together. That is not true at all. If you couldn't solo a 1.5 million isk madrugar with a wirykomi, then you were doing something wrong. Tanks are not beasting over everyone else. They are being checked hard by other tanks, and drop ships. The cheap price tag means you're seeing more tanks on the field, meaning tanks are spending more time fighting each other than hunting infantry. Hm? Scuse me, I hit 3 times, and the 4th hit, would finally have been the finishing move, but then it drove off. Yes, 3 hits of full proto volleys and it was still kicking, nothing wrong on my part. that's cute, first off, the armor tanks have a higher top speed than shield tanks, they also have a long acceleration time. many tankers are getting around the acceleration time by using nos, which is completely fair. secondly you can't kill a hardened tank, sorry, it's just not gonna happen anymore. the good news is a hardener lasts 24 - 30 seconds on a shield tank if you can catch them out of cycle or alpha strike them with 2 or 3 swarms when they don't have a hardener up they will pop. I don't know how armor tanks work, I'm surprised to see as many as I currently do. you may be able to kill them while they're hardened but I seriously doubt it. however it will probably take multiple people to do. if you couldn't solo a tank with proto swarms in 1.6 you are bad and should feel bad.
I had an ADV Min Assault suit with Proto Swarms and ADV AV nades that ate tanks for breakfast. You could put 10 guys in that suit now and the tanks would just laugh.
Remove time in battle from ISK payout formula and provide a bonus to winning team... Watch battles become fun again.
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knight of 6
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
814
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Posted - 2013.12.11 13:28:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote: I had an ADV Min Assault suit with Proto Swarms and ADV AV nades that ate tanks for breakfast. You could put 10 guys in that suit now and the tanks would just laugh.
nah bro, we'd recall or die... or red line. it takes more than one AVer to take us down even proto fit however it sure as hell doesn't take 10.
"God favors the side with the best artillery" ~ Napoleon
Ko6, scout, tanker.
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Asirius Medaius
744
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Posted - 2013.12.11 13:40:00 -
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knight of 6 wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote: I had an ADV Min Assault suit with Proto Swarms and ADV AV nades that ate tanks for breakfast. You could put 10 guys in that suit now and the tanks would just laugh.
nah bro, we'd recall or die... or red line. it takes more than one AVer to take us down even proto fit however it sure as hell doesn't take 10.
You're right, it takes 24; problem is, the game is only able to suit 16v16.
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ResistanceGTA
Valor Tactical Operations Immortal Coalition of New-Eden
72
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Posted - 2013.12.11 13:48:00 -
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Our Deepest Regret wrote:LuckyLuke Wargan wrote:knight of 6 wrote:it has actually decreased, we just accelerate and decelerate faster now. Yeah? How do you explain a tank (sitting still i might add) i was literally next to when I started swarming it went away from me at least twice the new lock on range in a mere 2 seconds? By the way, swarms used to be difficult to kill tanks with, now it is nearly impossible. I hope you whiners are happy now. R.I.P swarms... we had a good run together. That is not true at all. If you couldn't solo a 1.5 million isk madrugar with a wirykomi, then you were doing something wrong. Tanks are not beasting over everyone else. They are being checked hard by other tanks, and drop ships. The cheap price tag means you're seeing more tanks on the field, meaning tanks are spending more time fighting each other than hunting infantry.
Them being cheaper also means your seeing a lot of really sh*tty tanks running around too. If its just a guy trying to get easy kills, you can tell, because they lack situational and spacial awareness. Good tankers still shine. Saw a Maddy get blown up by a Militia Swarm, was hilarious.
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Jarod Garamonde Jr
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
5
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Posted - 2013.12.11 13:51:00 -
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knight of 6 wrote:it has actually decreased, we just accelerate and decelerate faster now.
I figured it was going to end up being something like this. I honestly haven't read the full patch notes, yet.
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LuckyLuke Wargan
HavoK Core RISE of LEGION
253
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Posted - 2013.12.12 00:37:00 -
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knight of 6 wrote:LuckyLuke Wargan wrote:Our Deepest Regret wrote:LuckyLuke Wargan wrote:knight of 6 wrote:it has actually decreased, we just accelerate and decelerate faster now. Yeah? How do you explain a tank (sitting still i might add) i was literally next to when I started swarming it went away from me at least twice the new lock on range in a mere 2 seconds? By the way, swarms used to be difficult to kill tanks with, now it is nearly impossible. I hope you whiners are happy now. R.I.P swarms... we had a good run together. That is not true at all. If you couldn't solo a 1.5 million isk madrugar with a wirykomi, then you were doing something wrong. Tanks are not beasting over everyone else. They are being checked hard by other tanks, and drop ships. The cheap price tag means you're seeing more tanks on the field, meaning tanks are spending more time fighting each other than hunting infantry. Hm? Scuse me, I hit 3 times, and the 4th hit, would finally have been the finishing move, but then it drove off. Yes, 3 hits of full proto volleys and it was still kicking, nothing wrong on my part. that's cute, first off, the armor tanks have a higher top speed than shield tanks, they also have a long acceleration time. many tankers are getting around the acceleration time by using nos, which is completely fair. secondly you can't kill a hardened tank, sorry, it's just not gonna happen anymore. the good news is a hardener lasts 24 - 30 seconds on a shield tank if you can catch them out of cycle or alpha strike them with 2 or 3 swarms when they don't have a hardener up they will pop. I don't know how armor tanks work, I'm surprised to see as many as I currently do. you may be able to kill them while they're hardened but I seriously doubt it. however it will probably take multiple people to do. if you couldn't solo a tank with proto swarms in 1.6 you are bad and should feel bad. I am complaing about 1.7 here. 1.6 was a challenge but fair, it's nearly impossible to swarm a tank in 1.7, that is what I'm complaining about. And those saying that the new tank speed or acceleration or whatever you wanna call it is fair, have a distorted sense of reality.
"Cry HavoK!, and let slip the dogs of war!"
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knight of 6
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.12.12 00:48:00 -
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ugh, you know what, do whatever you feel you need to do. post a million threads and nerf tanks back into the ground, it's only a million and a half of my skill points and to be quite honest it's a million SP that I would happily give up to have the forums wiped of every AV QQ and FW post.
I'm taking a vacation necro this thread as you see fit and use it as you may. I'll see you all in game but wont be around on the forums for a bit, at least until you idiots stop post a new TANKS ARE OP thread every 2 seconds.
I need to bump one thread that actually matters as it is a bug report, see you in a few weeks.
"God favors the side with the best artillery" ~ Napoleon
Ko6, scout, tanker.
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LuckyLuke Wargan
HavoK Core RISE of LEGION
253
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Posted - 2013.12.12 00:56:00 -
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knight of 6 wrote:ugh, you know what, do whatever you feel you need to do. post a million threads and nerf tanks back into the ground, it's only a million and a half of my skill points and to be quite honest it's a million SP that I would happily give up to have the forums wiped of every AV QQ and FW post.
I'm taking a vacation necro this thread as you see fit and use it as you may. I'll see you all in game but wont be around on the forums for a bit, at least until you idiots stop post a new TANKS ARE OP thread every 2 seconds.
I need to bump one thread that actually matters as it is a bug report, see you in a few weeks. AV QQ posts are minimal compared to tankers qq posts prior 1.7... just saying.
"Cry HavoK!, and let slip the dogs of war!"
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Alpha 443-6732
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Posted - 2013.12.12 01:09:00 -
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Our Deepest Regret wrote:DJINN Marauder wrote:Bullshit there not faster. If acceleration really was the only thing changed then they need to buff lav speed or nerf tank speed It's physics, man. An object with more mass at top acceleration will always be faster than a lighter object. If you race past a tank, and there's plenty of open space in front of you, he's definitely gonna catch you. The most unrealistic part of terminator 2 wasn't the time traveling cyborgs, it was that kid's dirt bike and Arnold's Harley both staying in front of a semi for ten minutes.
that is exactly the opposite of what is true.
congrats, youre a winner
AV =/= Completely dominate and render vehicles useless. AV = Counterpart of vehicles that combats vehicles.
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