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Jarod Garamonde Jr
Sardaukar Merc Guild
General Tso's Alliance
4
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Posted - 2013.12.11 04:01:00 -
[31] - Quote
Rannici wrote:the point of friendly fire is to add an extra level of realism to the game, and stop blueberries from doing stupid things.
let me paint you the situation.
i had sunk nearly 400k into a faction warfare match, in protosuits and equipment, and turned the tide of a very close battle to our favor.
i drive to C, in my LAV, and a friendly tank PURPOSELY activates his afterburner and runs my LAV over,
killing me.
i expected to be able to boot him from the game.
NOPE.
...
so i respawn, go back to C. hack it.
then turn,
and start shooting the tank with my assault rifle.
unloaded two clips, and then my screen went black, and i'm back in my merc quarters.
ARE YOU SERIOUS?!?!
how about friendly fire bans only being instituted when a player is killed?
this game is so utterly garbage it's ridiculous.
welcome to world of tanks. and dropships that can't be shot down by wyrkomi swarm launchers.
TLDR: FRIENDLY FIRE AGAINST TANKS IS STUPID. I SHOULD BE ABLE TO BOOT TANK DRIVERS FOR RUNNING MY LAV OVER.
p.s. THANKS JENZA. YOU WANT TO TAKE CREDIT FOR FRIENDLY FIRE IN FACTION WARFARE NOW? BECAUSE THIS IS ********.
Friendly Fire *should* earn you a permaban. |
Canari Elphus
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
1076
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Posted - 2013.12.11 04:05:00 -
[32] - Quote
While Rannici might be letting his emotions get the best of him right now, he is right that the governing rules of FW are poorly thought out and cringe worthy.
CCP time and again doesnt consult players about things that they introduce and it turns into a joke. All these rules do are coddle stupid blueberries and hinder players that know what they are doing. I almost got banned from FW today because someone was hacking a letter and I blew the RE on it only to find that there was a blue dot standing there.
As someone said, what are you supposed to do with OBs? You cant drop it because some bluetard is wandering around? Heck, in PC it happens because clearing the area is more important than the one or two mercs that are there.
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Ivy Zalinto
Bobbit's Hangmen
143
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Posted - 2013.12.11 04:12:00 -
[33] - Quote
Canari Elphus wrote:While Rannici might be letting his emotions get the best of him right now, he is right that the governing rules of FW are poorly thought out and cringe worthy.
CCP time and again doesnt consult players about things that they introduce and it turns into a joke. All these rules do are coddle stupid blueberries and hinder players that know what they are doing. I almost got banned from FW today because someone was hacking a letter and I blew the RE on it only to find that there was a blue dot standing there.
As someone said, what are you supposed to do with OBs? You cant drop it because some bluetard is wandering around? Heck, in PC it happens because clearing the area is more important than the one or two mercs that are there.
Welcome to Fisher Price's 'My First Faction War'. Completely child safe and even comes with hits own helmet and drool bib.
Completely agree with you that the system is currently needing a few tweaks, I was simply doing the math to show how he got banned from it. Its one thing to detonate an re and kill a teammate unknowingly its a bit more to knowing hose down a vehicle with automatic fire. Granted it didnt do anything to the vehicle, it seems like it did around 4k damage to it and got him kicked due to it counting raw damage.
However thank you for the more calm response than I have been getting. Aggression is met with aggression and conversation is met with conversation and a nice hot mug of cider...
Dedicated scout.
New player tutor; scout instructor
Scrambler Pistol dedication
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Canari Elphus
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
1077
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Posted - 2013.12.11 04:24:00 -
[34] - Quote
Ivy Zalinto wrote:Canari Elphus wrote:While Rannici might be letting his emotions get the best of him right now, he is right that the governing rules of FW are poorly thought out and cringe worthy.
CCP time and again doesnt consult players about things that they introduce and it turns into a joke. All these rules do are coddle stupid blueberries and hinder players that know what they are doing. I almost got banned from FW today because someone was hacking a letter and I blew the RE on it only to find that there was a blue dot standing there.
As someone said, what are you supposed to do with OBs? You cant drop it because some bluetard is wandering around? Heck, in PC it happens because clearing the area is more important than the one or two mercs that are there.
Welcome to Fisher Price's 'My First Faction War'. Completely child safe and even comes with hits own helmet and drool bib.
Completely agree with you that the system is currently needing a few tweaks, I was simply doing the math to show how he got banned from it. Its one thing to detonate an re and kill a teammate unknowingly its a bit more to knowing hose down a vehicle with automatic fire. Granted it didnt do anything to the vehicle, it seems like it did around 4k damage to it and got him kicked due to it counting raw damage. However thank you for the more calm response than I have been getting. Aggression is met with aggression and conversation is met with conversation and a nice hot mug of cider...
The system is infuriating right now and you can understand why my friend is a little on edge right now. Half the people I know were banned today and not one of them (that I know of) intentionally did something to deserve it. Its somewhat obvious that CCP doesnt have a 'what if' session with these updates.
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Ivy Zalinto
Bobbit's Hangmen
145
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Posted - 2013.12.11 04:29:00 -
[35] - Quote
Canari Elphus wrote:Ivy Zalinto wrote:Canari Elphus wrote:While Rannici might be letting his emotions get the best of him right now, he is right that the governing rules of FW are poorly thought out and cringe worthy.
CCP time and again doesnt consult players about things that they introduce and it turns into a joke. All these rules do are coddle stupid blueberries and hinder players that know what they are doing. I almost got banned from FW today because someone was hacking a letter and I blew the RE on it only to find that there was a blue dot standing there.
As someone said, what are you supposed to do with OBs? You cant drop it because some bluetard is wandering around? Heck, in PC it happens because clearing the area is more important than the one or two mercs that are there.
Welcome to Fisher Price's 'My First Faction War'. Completely child safe and even comes with hits own helmet and drool bib.
Completely agree with you that the system is currently needing a few tweaks, I was simply doing the math to show how he got banned from it. Its one thing to detonate an re and kill a teammate unknowingly its a bit more to knowing hose down a vehicle with automatic fire. Granted it didnt do anything to the vehicle, it seems like it did around 4k damage to it and got him kicked due to it counting raw damage. However thank you for the more calm response than I have been getting. Aggression is met with aggression and conversation is met with conversation and a nice hot mug of cider... The system is infuriating right now and you can understand why my friend is a little on edge right now. Half the people I know were banned today and not one of them (that I know of) intentionally did something to deserve it. Its somewhat obvious that CCP doesnt have a 'what if' session with these updates.
My suggestion for avoiding said things is practice a combat doctrine on the battlefield. If you command a vehicle of any kind and have players in front of you. Drive slow or let them get out of the way. And the bigger vehicle has right of way especially if their not paying attention. Orbitals are for clearing points with minimal blues around or greens are told to evacuate the area before moving back in to reclaim. Explosives arent used in the proximity of other players. This is how my group has played in various tactical shooters such as rainbow six and ghost recon where friendly fire is always on. Its somewhat easy to avoid if you maintain situational awareness but if you dont, ittl bite you.
Dedicated scout.
New player tutor; scout instructor
Scrambler Pistol dedication
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Canari Elphus
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
1077
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Posted - 2013.12.11 04:38:00 -
[36] - Quote
Thats fine and all but, as much as you can govern yourself, you cant take the stupid out of the random player. Ive played plenty of games that have FF on and none of them have had this strict of a set of rules about it.
CCP was so worried about griefing that they pulled out their typical tactic of going full tilt in the opposite direction.
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Ivy Zalinto
Bobbit's Hangmen
145
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Posted - 2013.12.11 04:46:00 -
[37] - Quote
Canari Elphus wrote:Thats fine and all but, as much as you can govern yourself, you cant take the stupid out of the random player. Ive played plenty of games that have FF on and none of them have had this strict of a set of rules about it.
CCP was so worried about griefing that they pulled out their typical tactic of going full tilt in the opposite direction.
This is very true, however I will say this. Even in the old games like ghost recon advanced warfighter you had stupid people. It was still down to the player to watch their lanes of fire. Until they smooth things out, I can only suggest to watch your lanes of fire and keep an eye on your tacmap. Thats really the only thing that you can do honestly...
Dedicated scout.
New player tutor; scout instructor
Scrambler Pistol dedication
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Rannici
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
110
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Posted - 2013.12.11 13:24:00 -
[38] - Quote
Quote:My suggestion for avoiding said things is practice a combat doctrine on the battlefield.
you must be trolling..
no. i'm going to practice using a tank with an afterburner and run over any LAV i see, until CCP fixes their ass-backwards game. |
Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
2236
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Posted - 2013.12.11 13:35:00 -
[39] - Quote
If you use a dropship or an LAV often in FW you will get booted. It's just a matter of time. I don't think you even need to kill people with an LAV. When you jump out of an LAV and it keeps moving, that little bit of damage is counted.
When you get out of a dropship and it bumps you, it's counted.
Tanks don't seem to have any issue.
Remove time in battle from ISK payout formula and provide a bonus to winning team... Watch battles become fun again.
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Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
647
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Posted - 2013.12.11 13:59:00 -
[40] - Quote
I've quit FW for a few reasons
1. The friendly fire kicking system
2. No isk
3. The randoms who play FW seem to be worse than the ones in pubs. |
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Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES
779
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Posted - 2013.12.11 14:03:00 -
[41] - Quote
Rannici wrote:the point of friendly fire is to add an extra level of realism to the game, and stop blueberries from doing stupid things.
let me paint you the situation.
i had sunk nearly 400k into a faction warfare match, in protosuits and equipment, and turned the tide of a very close battle to our favor.
i drive to C, in my LAV, and a friendly tank PURPOSELY activates his afterburner and runs my LAV over,
killing me.
i expected to be able to boot him from the game.
NOPE.
...
so i respawn, go back to C. hack it.
then turn,
and start shooting the tank with my assault rifle.
unloaded two clips, and then my screen went black, and i'm back in my merc quarters.
ARE YOU SERIOUS?!?!
how about friendly fire bans only being instituted when a player is killed?
this game is so utterly garbage it's ridiculous.
welcome to world of tanks. and dropships that can't be shot down by wyrkomi swarm launchers.
TLDR: FRIENDLY FIRE AGAINST TANKS IS STUPID. I SHOULD BE ABLE TO BOOT TANK DRIVERS FOR RUNNING MY LAV OVER.
p.s. THANKS JENZA. YOU WANT TO TAKE CREDIT FOR FRIENDLY FIRE IN FACTION WARFARE NOW? BECAUSE THIS IS ********.
ha ha. You shouldn't be so vengeful. |
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CCP Nullarbor
C C P
C C P Alliance
3221
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Posted - 2013.12.11 14:15:00 -
[42] - Quote
We are investigating reports of the friendly fire kick not working as intended and being too aggressive, keep your eyes on the known issues thread for updates.
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=126665
CCP Nullarbor // Exotic Dancer // Team True Grit
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Rannici
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
113
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Posted - 2013.12.11 16:47:00 -
[43] - Quote
PART 2.
CALLED IN A TANK.
BLUEBERRY GOT HIT BY IT FALLING BUT DIDN'T DIE.
BOOTED.
WHAT A WONDERFUL GAME YOU HAVE HERE CCP.
24 HOUR BAN? WHOSE BRIGHT IDEA WAS THAT? (LOOKING AT YOU JENZA) |
iceyburnz
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
1198
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Posted - 2013.12.11 16:52:00 -
[44] - Quote
Rannici wrote: ...and a friendly tank PURPOSELY activates his afterburner and runs my LAV over,
killing me.
"We spent so much time huddling inside buildings with tanks circling outside like a swarm of sharks around bait"
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Jak'Saan
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
162
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Posted - 2013.12.11 16:59:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:I still can't get over you doing 5000 damage to a tank with your AR... Just... wow.
Please, it's an AR... 
What can't the AR do in AR 514?
Hey OP, instead of firing at the tank like a lunatic, you should have spanwed more free LAVs and purposely put them in the tanks way. Then eventually he would get 5000 HP damage and get banned.
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chase rowland
The Enclave Syndicate
Dark Taboo
110
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Posted - 2013.12.11 17:02:00 -
[46] - Quote
Rannici wrote:the point of friendly fire is to add an extra level of realism to the game, and stop blueberries from doing stupid things.
let me paint you the situation.
i had sunk nearly 400k into a faction warfare match, in protosuits and equipment, and turned the tide of a very close battle to our favor.
i drive to C, in my LAV, and a friendly tank PURPOSELY activates his afterburner and runs my LAV over,
killing me.
i expected to be able to boot him from the game.
NOPE.
...
so i respawn, go back to C. hack it.
then turn,
and start shooting the tank with my assault rifle.
unloaded two clips, and then my screen went black, and i'm back in my merc quarters.
ARE YOU SERIOUS?!?!
how about friendly fire bans only being instituted when a player is killed?
this game is so utterly garbage it's ridiculous.
welcome to world of tanks. and dropships that can't be shot down by wyrkomi swarm launchers.
TLDR: FRIENDLY FIRE AGAINST TANKS IS STUPID. I SHOULD BE ABLE TO BOOT TANK DRIVERS FOR RUNNING MY LAV OVER.
p.s. THANKS JENZA. YOU WANT TO TAKE CREDIT FOR FRIENDLY FIRE IN FACTION WARFARE NOW? BECAUSE THIS IS ********.
don't shoot the tank, dumass |
Mortedeamor
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
977
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Posted - 2013.12.11 17:07:00 -
[47] - Quote
Rannici wrote:the point of friendly fire is to add an extra level of realism to the game, and stop blueberries from doing stupid things.
let me paint you the situation.
i had sunk nearly 400k into a faction warfare match, in protosuits and equipment, and turned the tide of a very close battle to our favor.
i drive to C, in my LAV, and a friendly tank PURPOSELY activates his afterburner and runs my LAV over,
killing me.
i expected to be able to boot him from the game.
NOPE.
...
so i respawn, go back to C. hack it.
then turn,
and start shooting the tank with my assault rifle.
unloaded two clips, and then my screen went black, and i'm back in my merc quarters.
ARE YOU SERIOUS?!?!
how about friendly fire bans only being instituted when a player is killed?
this game is so utterly garbage it's ridiculous.
welcome to world of tanks. and dropships that can't be shot down by wyrkomi swarm launchers.
TLDR: FRIENDLY FIRE AGAINST TANKS IS STUPID. I SHOULD BE ABLE TO BOOT TANK DRIVERS FOR RUNNING MY LAV OVER.
p.s. THANKS JENZA. YOU WANT TO TAKE CREDIT FOR FRIENDLY FIRE IN FACTION WARFARE NOW? BECAUSE THIS IS ********.
wish i could like this multiple times ...goes to grab an alt |
Mortedeamor
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
977
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Posted - 2013.12.11 17:12:00 -
[48] - Quote
Rannici wrote:Quote:You managed to deal 5000 HP worth of friendly fire to a tank with an Assault Rifle? no. exile rifle. no damage mods. didn't even dent the shields. still banned. wonderful.
it was the collision dmg dealt added to it probably |
Zelorian Dexter snr
8thDivision
101
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Posted - 2013.12.11 17:13:00 -
[49] - Quote
Rannici wrote:the point of friendly fire is to add an extra level of realism to the game, and stop blueberries from doing stupid things.
let me paint you the situation.
i had sunk nearly 400k into a faction warfare match, in protosuits and equipment, and turned the tide of a very close battle to our favor.
i drive to C, in my LAV, and a friendly tank PURPOSELY activates his afterburner and runs my LAV over,
killing me.
i expected to be able to boot him from the game.
NOPE.
...
so i respawn, go back to C. hack it.
then turn,
and start shooting the tank with my assault rifle.
unloaded two clips, and then my screen went black, and i'm back in my merc quarters.
ARE YOU SERIOUS?!?!
how about friendly fire bans only being instituted when a player is killed?
this game is so utterly garbage it's ridiculous.
welcome to world of tanks. and dropships that can't be shot down by wyrkomi swarm launchers.
TLDR: FRIENDLY FIRE AGAINST TANKS IS STUPID. I SHOULD BE ABLE TO BOOT TANK DRIVERS FOR RUNNING MY LAV OVER.
p.s. THANKS JENZA. YOU WANT TO TAKE CREDIT FOR FRIENDLY FIRE IN FACTION WARFARE NOW? BECAUSE THIS IS ********.
Ok so let's get this straight you got kicked for shooting a friendly tank omfg there are no words really.........
Also my proto SL is working just fine still shoot down DS and pop tanks.
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Son-Of A-Gun
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
620
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Posted - 2013.12.11 17:18:00 -
[50] - Quote
Rannici wrote:the point of friendly fire is to add an extra level of realism to the game, and stop blueberries from doing stupid things.
let me paint you the situation.
i had sunk nearly 400k into a faction warfare match, in protosuits and equipment, and turned the tide of a very close battle to our favor.
i drive to C, in my LAV, and a friendly tank PURPOSELY activates his afterburner and runs my LAV over,
killing me.
i expected to be able to boot him from the game.
NOPE.
...
so i respawn, go back to C. hack it.
then turn,
and start shooting the tank with my assault rifle.
unloaded two clips, and then my screen went black, and i'm back in my merc quarters.
ARE YOU SERIOUS?!?!
how about friendly fire bans only being instituted when a player is killed?
this game is so utterly garbage it's ridiculous.
welcome to world of tanks. and dropships that can't be shot down by wyrkomi swarm launchers.
TLDR: FRIENDLY FIRE AGAINST TANKS IS STUPID. I SHOULD BE ABLE TO BOOT TANK DRIVERS FOR RUNNING MY LAV OVER.
p.s. THANKS JENZA. YOU WANT TO TAKE CREDIT FOR FRIENDLY FIRE IN FACTION WARFARE NOW? BECAUSE THIS IS ********.
You think that's bad, take a loo at this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBX6h9zR0MA&feature=youtube_gdata_player
{:)}{3GÇó>
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pseudosnipre
384
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Posted - 2013.12.11 17:19:00 -
[51] - Quote
In response to the question "appropriate response to getting run over by a friendly", you answered "throw a tantrum".
Judges?
BUZZ
I'm sorry, the correct answer was "hatemail". But as a consolation prize we have one coupon good for 24 hours playing pub matches against other pubescent children!
Join us tomorrow for another rousing installment of MATURE ENOUGH FOR FACTION WARFARE!
Today is the sort of day where the sun only comes up to humiliate you.
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Spectre-M
The Generals
General Tso's Alliance
133
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Posted - 2013.12.11 17:22:00 -
[52] - Quote
The explosion damage of your lav contributed as damage against the tank
Amarr Factional Warfare Loyalist
Minnmatar in Amarr Armor
I am a Wolf in Sheeps Clothing
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Son-Of A-Gun
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
620
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Posted - 2013.12.11 17:27:00 -
[53] - Quote
pseudosnipre wrote:BUZZ
I'm sorry, the correct answer was "jihadi jeep". But as a consolation prize we have one coupon good for 24 hours playing pub matches against other pubescent children!
There you go fixed it for you.
{:)}{3GÇó>
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bear90211
Nyain San
Renegade Alliance
70
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Posted - 2013.12.11 17:32:00 -
[54] - Quote
SURE this happend to me too, ill get u a video. TOMORROW.
Heavies are still squishy to my AR, just 5 rounds into them extra ;D
hmm, I want taco's...
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TheBLAZZED
VENGEANCE FOR HIRE
106
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Posted - 2013.12.11 17:34:00 -
[55] - Quote
FF is so glitchy it pisses me off... kicked twice now and haven't killed or shot one blueberry. Wtf? they finally give us a reason to play these stupid factional warfare games & they kick you every time you try.
Remove ff... it's a good idea on paper but only on paper. |
Mortedeamor
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
979
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Posted - 2013.12.11 17:36:00 -
[56] - Quote
bear90211 wrote:SURE this happend to me too, ill get u a video. TOMORROW.
always record fw lols |
Son-Of A-Gun
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
621
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Posted - 2013.12.11 17:40:00 -
[57] - Quote
TheBLAZZED wrote:FF is so glitchy it pisses me off... kicked twice now and haven't killed or shot one blueberry. Wtf? they finally give us a reason to play these stupid factional warfare games & they kick you every time you try.
Remove ff... it's a good idea on paper but only on paper.
You keep fluxing your team mates?
{:)}{3GÇó>
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Lorhak Gannarsein
668
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Posted - 2013.12.11 17:42:00 -
[58] - Quote
pseudosnipre wrote:In response to the question "appropriate response to getting run over by a friendly", you answered "throw a tantrum".
Judges?
BUZZ
I'm sorry, the correct answer was "hatemail". But as a consolation prize we have one coupon good for 24 hours playing pub matches against other pubescent children!
Join us tomorrow for another rousing installment of MATURE ENOUGH FOR FACTION WARFARE!
lol
Cosgar: You know, tanks are actually paper thin once their modules are in cooldown.
(Am too sleepy to quote properly)
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CrotchGrab 360
Commando Perkone
Caldari State
507
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Posted - 2013.12.11 18:21:00 -
[59] - Quote
Rannici wrote:the point of friendly fire is to add an extra level of realism to the game, and stop blueberries from doing stupid things.
let me paint you the situation.
i had sunk nearly 400k into a faction warfare match, in protosuits and equipment, and turned the tide of a very close battle to our favor.
i drive to C, in my LAV, and a friendly tank PURPOSELY activates his afterburner and runs my LAV over,
killing me.
i expected to be able to boot him from the game.
NOPE.
...
so i respawn, go back to C. hack it.
then turn,
and start shooting the tank with my assault rifle.
unloaded two clips, and then my screen went black, and i'm back in my merc quarters.
ARE YOU SERIOUS?!?!
how about friendly fire bans only being instituted when a player is killed?
this game is so utterly garbage it's ridiculous.
welcome to world of tanks. and dropships that can't be shot down by wyrkomi swarm launchers.
TLDR: FRIENDLY FIRE AGAINST TANKS IS STUPID. I SHOULD BE ABLE TO BOOT TANK DRIVERS FOR RUNNING MY LAV OVER.
p.s. THANKS JENZA. YOU WANT TO TAKE CREDIT FOR FRIENDLY FIRE IN FACTION WARFARE NOW? BECAUSE THIS IS ********.
this is the problem
we are expected to expect things like this when the patch is new
we are also expected to put up with it for 6 months
there's your problem.
You've Been Hit By
You've Been Struck By
A Smooth Criminal
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TheBLAZZED
VENGEANCE FOR HIRE
109
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Posted - 2013.12.11 18:46:00 -
[60] - Quote
Son-Of A-Gun wrote:TheBLAZZED wrote:FF is so glitchy it pisses me off... kicked twice now and haven't killed or shot one blueberry. Wtf? they finally give us a reason to play these stupid factional warfare games & they kick you every time you try.
Remove ff... it's a good idea on paper but only on paper. You keep fluxing your team mates?
No fluxes, one time it happened while I was being shot by a blue berry with an ar, the other was when one was hitting me with a rail. Hence my frustration. I'm getting Kicked for people trying to tk my tank? Wtf? Lol |
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