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![Rannici Rannici](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_minmatar_128.jpg)
Rannici
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2013.12.11 02:26:00 -
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the point of friendly fire is to add an extra level of realism to the game, and stop blueberries from doing stupid things.
let me paint you the situation. i had sunk nearly 400k into a faction warfare match, in protosuits and equipment, and turned the tide of a very close battle to our favor.
i drive to C, in my LAV, and a friendly tank PURPOSELY activates his afterburner and runs my LAV over, killing me.
i expected to be able to boot him from the game. NOPE.
...
so i respawn, go back to C. hack it. then turn, and start shooting the tank with my assault rifle. unloaded two clips, and then my screen went black, and i'm back in my merc quarters.
ARE YOU SERIOUS?!?!
how about friendly fire bans only being instituted when a player is killed?
this game is so utterly garbage it's ridiculous. welcome to world of tanks. and dropships that can't be shot down by wyrkomi swarm launchers.
TLDR: FRIENDLY FIRE AGAINST TANKS IS STUPID. I SHOULD BE ABLE TO BOOT TANK DRIVERS FOR RUNNING MY LAV OVER. |
![TheAmazing FlyingPig TheAmazing FlyingPig](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_gallente_128.jpg)
TheAmazing FlyingPig
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
4954
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Posted - 2013.12.11 02:28:00 -
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Take your isk with you on your way out pls.
Never forget
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![TunRa TunRa](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_minmatar_128.jpg)
TunRa
RETR0 PR0 GAMERS INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS
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Posted - 2013.12.11 02:28:00 -
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![ThePrinceOfNigeria ThePrinceOfNigeria](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_caldari_128.jpg)
ThePrinceOfNigeria
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
289
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Posted - 2013.12.11 02:29:00 -
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Rannici wrote:this game is so utterly garbage it's ridiculous.
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![21yrOld Knight 21yrOld Knight](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_amarr_128.jpg)
21yrOld Knight
Pradox One Proficiency V.
396
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Posted - 2013.12.11 02:30:00 -
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If you assimilated to the amarr we would of taught you that you don't shoot friendly vehicles.
If I had power, I would pour the sweet milk of concord into hell.
Malcom
Tragedy of Macbeth
Act IV Scene 3.
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![Garrett Blacknova Garrett Blacknova](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_caldari_128.jpg)
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
4111
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Posted - 2013.12.11 02:30:00 -
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Rannici wrote:the point of friendly fire is to add an extra level of realism to the game, and stop blueberries from doing stupid things.
let me paint you the situation. i had sunk nearly 400k into a faction warfare match, in protosuits and equipment, and turned the tide of a very close battle to our favor.
i drive to C, in my LAV, and a friendly tank PURPOSELY activates his afterburner and runs my LAV over, killing me.
i expected to be able to boot him from the game. NOPE. Legitimate concern.
Quote:so i respawn, go back to C. hack it. then turn, and start shooting the tank with my assault rifle. unloaded two clips, and then my screen went black, and i'm back in my merc quarters. You managed to deal 5000 HP worth of friendly fire to a tank with an Assault Rifle?
Well done.
But yes, the kick was well-deserved. Seriously, though, WELL KITTENING DONE.
Quote:ARE YOU SERIOUS?!?!
how about friendly fire bans only being instituted when a player is killed?
this game is so utterly garbage it's ridiculous. welcome to world of tanks. and dropships that can't be shot down by wyrkomi swarm launchers.
TLDR: FRIENDLY FIRE AGAINST TANKS IS STUPID. I SHOULD BE ABLE TO BOOT TANK DRIVERS FOR RUNNING MY LAV OVER. Nope. Only the part about your LAV being run over is a problem, That was deserving of punishment, but so was your lunatic spray at the tank.
I still can't get over you doing 5000 damage to a tank with your AR... Just... wow. |
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calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder.
1453
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Posted - 2013.12.11 02:30:00 -
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it was publily stated that shooting friendly vehicles and equipment would cause a kick. |
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Fire of Prometheus
DUST University Ivy League
1902
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Posted - 2013.12.11 02:31:00 -
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I would like some Iskies.....plus it's ur fault for tossing 400k isk at a FW match.....I tossed militia suits at one and lost by 3 mcc ticks and about 15 clones
"It is the mark of an educated mind to entertain a thought without accepting it."
-Aristotle
I'll take your Iskies
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![True Adamance True Adamance](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_amarr_128.jpg)
True Adamance
Scions of Athra
4767
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Posted - 2013.12.11 02:31:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:Rannici wrote:the point of friendly fire is to add an extra level of realism to the game, and stop blueberries from doing stupid things.
let me paint you the situation. i had sunk nearly 400k into a faction warfare match, in protosuits and equipment, and turned the tide of a very close battle to our favor.
i drive to C, in my LAV, and a friendly tank PURPOSELY activates his afterburner and runs my LAV over, killing me.
i expected to be able to boot him from the game. NOPE. Legitimate concern. Quote:so i respawn, go back to C. hack it. then turn, and start shooting the tank with my assault rifle. unloaded two clips, and then my screen went black, and i'm back in my merc quarters. You managed to deal 5000 HP worth of friendly fire to a tank with an Assault Rifle? Well done. But yes, the kick was well-deserved. Seriously, though, WELL KITTENING DONE. Quote:ARE YOU SERIOUS?!?!
how about friendly fire bans only being instituted when a player is killed?
this game is so utterly garbage it's ridiculous. welcome to world of tanks. and dropships that can't be shot down by wyrkomi swarm launchers.
TLDR: FRIENDLY FIRE AGAINST TANKS IS STUPID. I SHOULD BE ABLE TO BOOT TANK DRIVERS FOR RUNNING MY LAV OVER. Nope. Only the part about your LAV being run over is a problem, That was deserving of punishment, but so was your lunatic spray at the tank. I still can't get over you doing 5000 damage to a tank with your AR... Just... wow.
No doubt the impact from LAV did damage to the HAV, which got him booted.
"Shudder. Again another smart idea from an Amarr..."- Forlorn Destrier (11/12/13) LAWL
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![KalOfTheRathi KalOfTheRathi](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_gallente_128.jpg)
KalOfTheRathi
Nec Tributis
926
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Posted - 2013.12.11 02:32:00 -
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Vehicles crashes are, most likely, handled separately. From a coding standpoint anyway. Whether that will remain that way will be interesting to watch.
I have run over LAVs by accident and been crushed by HAVs as well. Both turning right to avoid a crash will give that result. Oops.
However, what is Known And Well Stated is you will be banned for shooting other players. Apparently even if they are in a HAV.
Makes one wonder if sniping a friendly DS will get the same result?
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![Chunky Munkey Chunky Munkey](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/female_amarr_128.jpg)
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
2553
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Posted - 2013.12.11 02:32:00 -
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"I fired at a friendly and the game kicked me for friendly fire! WTF CCP!?!?"
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No.
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![Rannici Rannici](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_minmatar_128.jpg)
Rannici
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
108
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Posted - 2013.12.11 02:32:00 -
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Quote:You managed to deal 5000 HP worth of friendly fire to a tank with an Assault Rifle?
no. exile rifle. no damage mods. didn't even dent the shields. still banned.
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ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.12.11 02:32:00 -
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Rannici wrote:the point of friendly fire is to add an extra level of realism to the game, and stop blueberries from doing stupid things.
What's the problem then? Seems like it's working to me.
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Thorn Badblood
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
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Posted - 2013.12.11 02:33:00 -
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He didnt do 5000 damage with his AR, its counting the damage done to the LAV too because it was his fault the tank ran straight into him.
D2D. A Non-Prophet Organization
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![Ivy Zalinto Ivy Zalinto](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/female_caldari_128.jpg)
Ivy Zalinto
Bobbit's Hangmen
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Posted - 2013.12.11 02:40:00 -
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Reads post...reads again...******* tank driver but you deserved the kick by returning fire. Considering you emptied 2 mags into him you had intention to actually deal damage to the person even though it was at most cosmetic damage. Just try again tomorrow.
Dedicated scout.
New player tutor; scout instructor
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![Rannici Rannici](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_minmatar_128.jpg)
Rannici
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
108
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Posted - 2013.12.11 02:42:00 -
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yeah, i would have skull ****** his face had he stepped out of his ***-mobile. |
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rebecca watson
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.12.11 02:49:00 -
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It seems that damage to your own vehicles, and other vehicle-related damages, are the reasons FF is going to be broken.... |
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
1830
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Posted - 2013.12.11 02:51:00 -
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I believe the word you are looking for is Tanks 514.
It sounds way better than World Of Tanks.
My Very First Thread About Tanks
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![Garrett Blacknova Garrett Blacknova](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_caldari_128.jpg)
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
4112
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Posted - 2013.12.11 02:53:00 -
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Rannici wrote:Quote:You managed to deal 5000 HP worth of friendly fire to a tank with an Assault Rifle? no. exile rifle. no damage mods. didn't even dent the shields. still banned. wonderful. What exactly is the "no" for? Is there some kind of magical "Exile Rifle" that isn't a type of Assault Rifle now? Or did they rename the Assault Rifles to something else now that there's a selection of racial variants? And is the Exile not one of the full-aut Assault variants? |
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Ivy Zalinto
Bobbit's Hangmen
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Posted - 2013.12.11 02:53:00 -
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Rannici wrote:yeah, i would have skull ****** his face had he stepped out of his ***-mobile.
i deserve a ban for doing approximately 0 damage to a tank's shields, using my assault rifle? give me a break, get your head out of your ass, and think about that logically for a second. logic is a complex concept for blueberries, i know. but, COME ON. Actually you still did damage to the tanks shields. I have that happen alot and watch to see if it actually does anything. Its very little but you still do a bit. Even at one point per hit, and ar has what...32 rounds minimum per mag or something like that? Also mate, I roll with my corp, to me your a blueberry. Its the same for everyone else as well. Im a blueberry, your a blueberry. Only thing different is yours seems to disappear off my radar when you shoot at me. I shrug and keep rolling.
According to your own words though, yes you did deserve to be banned from the match. You said right there you would have killed him had he been out of his vehicle. I mean...I understand the frustration. I actually stop and let infantry and lav's pass me before rolling on. Its just a good thing to do with friendly fire on. Why should you die because I wasnt watching where I was rolling. Just not gonna happen with me.
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New player tutor; scout instructor
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![Rannici Rannici](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_minmatar_128.jpg)
Rannici
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2013.12.11 02:55:00 -
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no, i didn't do 5000 HP worth of damage, you stupid ****. |
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Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
4112
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Posted - 2013.12.11 02:55:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:No doubt the impact from LAV did damage to the HAV, which got him booted. Also, this, while hilarious if it's true, would make the whole thing make a lot more sense.
And it would also seem like the root of the problem in some ways, but also a good thing, because the HAV would have been credited with FF damage as well (presumably) |
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Ivy Zalinto
Bobbit's Hangmen
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Posted - 2013.12.11 02:58:00 -
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Is this how ancient exiles is in general or is it just a pissy member? Honestly I'm at least being civil and veiling my insults somewhat.
Dedicated scout.
New player tutor; scout instructor
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THUNDERGROOVE
ZionTCD Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.12.11 02:59:00 -
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Rannici wrote:Quote:You managed to deal 5000 HP worth of friendly fire to a tank with an Assault Rifle? no. exile rifle. no damage mods. didn't even dent the shields. still banned. wonderful. It's not actual damage you did. It's the raw damage values, the efficiency bonus doesn't count.
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![Rannici Rannici](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_minmatar_128.jpg)
Rannici
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2013.12.11 03:02:00 -
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you're being civil, but asinine.
Quote:Actually you still did damage to the tanks shields. I have that happen alot and watch to see if it actually does anything. what part of "approximately zero damage" did you not understand? firing at shields with an AR does some damage, but the recharge rate makes it almost completely negligible. |
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xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn
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Posted - 2013.12.11 03:04:00 -
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I've been banned because I did 1 OS and hit 1 friendly. -.-" I'll never use Orbital Strikes anymore.
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![Ivy Zalinto Ivy Zalinto](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/female_caldari_128.jpg)
Ivy Zalinto
Bobbit's Hangmen
142
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Posted - 2013.12.11 03:24:00 -
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Rannici wrote:you're being civil, but asinine. Quote:Actually you still did damage to the tanks shields. I have that happen alot and watch to see if it actually does anything. what part of "approximately zero damage" did you not understand? firing at shields with an AR does some damage, but the recharge rate makes it almost completely negligible. I understand what you say perfectly actually. Heres what I'm getting at.
It doesnt matter if its negligible damage or not, 1+1 is 2 and you do that for 2 full mags of ammunition that can actually add up. A lav impacting a player if your mobile can do anywhere in the range of 0 to 10000 damage according to a few kill feeds that have happened to me. Then it keeps track of that through the game. Then you add a couple dozen ar rounds at 10% efficiency to heavy shielding, a basic ar does 34 i think it is per bullet. This means 3.4 per bullet to the shields. No point adding in a hardener for friendly small arms fire so no further modification. We will say it has 54 minimum ammo per mag and 60 max if you were using one of the other ars. Or the exile.
So you did minimum of 367.2 damage or at maximum 408 from your ar fire to the tank. Doesnt look like a small amount to me. Now add in that your car exploded when it blew up and did in fact do damage to the tank as well. Theres the rest of the damage.
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Doc Noah
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
979
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Posted - 2013.12.11 03:29:00 -
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Saw an HAV ram an LAV, the killfeed said that the LAV driver killed himself (not the suicide message but a killfeed with the same name twice). I think it has something to do with CCP coding a failsafe for LAVs that ram friendly tanks awhile back. |
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Cosgar
ParagonX
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Posted - 2013.12.11 03:32:00 -
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rebecca watson wrote:It seems that damage to your own vehicles, and other vehicle-related damages, are the reasons FF is going to be broken.... I went to jihad jeep LAV a tank with a LAV i spent my own money on. Managed to kill the tank with only 4 REs, but got kicked right after for FF against my own vehicle, that I paid for. They can't even copy Battlefield without sucking the fun out of it.
I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
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Avinash Decker
Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.12.11 03:57:00 -
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xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:I've been banned because I did 1 OS and hit 1 friendly. -.-" I'll never use Orbital Strikes anymore.
It would be very hard to not damage something with the OS since it takes in consideration of damage done to allied equipment as well. |
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