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Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 969	Posted - 2013.12.10 22:54:00 - [1] - Quote pases from playing Kingdoms of Amalor. tried patch 1.7 laser R.I.P delete Dust 514 maybe 1.8 will revive lasers and HMG? goes back to playing Kingdoms of Amalor Abandon Ship!, Abandon Ship!! Jumps into escape pod! Selected destination Planet PS4.
Aero Yassavi Scions of Athra 3931	Posted - 2013.12.10 22:55:00 - [2] - Quote Green Living says otherwise. Angels of vengeance, angels of mercy, scions of Athra. Amarr Victor
Disturbingly Bored The Strontium Asylum 1235	Posted - 2013.12.10 22:57:00 - [3] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: Green Living says otherwise. He's a hippie. Who listens to hippies? ¶Gêƒ__ Gò« Gû¿GûêGûêGûêGòáGëíGëíGëíGû¬ « GÇó GÇó GÇó GÇó GÇó GÇó GÇó GåÆFAT GATGåÉ pÇûGûôGûôGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæpÇùForum Warrior LV 1 (NEXT: 200/1000XP) ¯Gò¦pÇôpÇù
The Robot Devil Molon Labe. 1306	Posted - 2013.12.10 22:57:00 - [4] - Quote LR is fin. It may need a wider optimal but it works fine in its optimal. Dr. Gonzo: I hate to say this, but this place is getting to me. I think I'm getting the Fear.
Patrick57 Fatal Absolution 1971	Posted - 2013.12.10 22:57:00 - [5] - Quote Disturbingly Bored wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: Green Living says otherwise. He's a hippie. Who listens to hippies? The Amarr When I'm depressed, I cut myself......A BIG SLICE OF CHOCOLATE CAKE!
Greasepalms Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 336	Posted - 2013.12.10 22:57:00 - [6] - Quote can I hold on to your stuff in the mean time?
Komodo Jones Chaotik Serenity 276	Posted - 2013.12.10 22:58:00 - [7] - Quote Don't put the lazor on the hmgs level, lazors have been pretty kick ass lately, or did they screw with em? This is a signature. You're now reading it. You may now reply to my post.
Vell0cet SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 694	Posted - 2013.12.10 22:59:00 - [8] - Quote The LR needs major help to remain viable. You can use it and get kills with it, but it's almost always a better weapon for your tactical situation. It needs range badly (and a little more zoom proportional to the range increase). Quick/Dirty Test Range Idea
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 969	Posted - 2013.12.10 23:00:00 - [9] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: Green Living says otherwise. versus starter fits??......lol. lasers and HMG are dead in patch 1.7 Abandon Ship!, Abandon Ship!! Jumps into escape pod! Selected destination Planet PS4.
Jason Pearson 3244	Posted - 2013.12.10 23:02:00 - [10] - Quote This patch was for the Vehicles, I'm sure the infantry work will come soon. And I'mma be honest Tanking is very fun right now, and I'm not even fighting Infantry (Legitimately going between 4-10 kills a match with a death or two). King of the Forums // Vehicle Specialist for Hire Laugh at the idiots crying about four BPOs being removed erryday, lul

Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 11175	Posted - 2013.12.10 23:03:00 - [11] - Quote What if we shove the laser rifle to be more of a sniper rifle? CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Rail and Combat Rifle =// Unlocked
Disturbingly Bored The Strontium Asylum 1237	Posted - 2013.12.10 23:10:00 - [12] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: What if we shove the laser rifle to be more of a sniper rifle? I'd start using it again. Same ADS. NO MAXIMUM RANGE. It is light, after all. Do eet CCP ¶Gêƒ__ Gò« Gû¿GûêGûêGûêGòáGëíGëíGëíGû¬ « GÇó GÇó GÇó GÇó GÇó GÇó GÇó GåÆFAT GATGåÉ pÇûGûôGûôGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæpÇùForum Warrior LV 1 (NEXT: 200/1000XP) ¯Gò¦pÇôpÇù
Vell0cet SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 695	Posted - 2013.12.10 23:20:00 - [13] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: What if we shove the laser rifle to be more of a sniper rifle? A sniper rifle that broadcasts your location to the rest of the enemy team, that slowly increases damage over time? Uh, no thanks. Just make its optimal extend to 120m give it proportional zoom and scale back TTK on the other rifles/SMG and it should be fine. The mechanics are really fun, but it no longer has a niche where it's the best weapon. I literally never had a moment where I was playing today and thought to myself, "damn, I wish I were equipped with my LR fit right now, this would be the perfect scenario for it." I used to think that all the time back in 1.4, 1.5. Quick/Dirty Test Range Idea
Cosgar ParagonX 8520	Posted - 2013.12.10 23:24:00 - [14] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: What if we shove the laser rifle to be more of a sniper rifle? That's what it should have been from the start. PS: Shadowcaster with dagger/chakram combo is mad fun. I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
Disturbingly Bored The Strontium Asylum 1238	Posted - 2013.12.10 23:31:00 - [15] - Quote Vell0cet wrote: I literally never had a moment where I was playing today and thought to myself, "damn, I wish I were equipped with my LR fit right now, this would be the perfect scenario for it." I used to think that all the time back in 1.4, 1.5. Just curious, I assume you had the chance to play with the Laser Rifle in Chromosome? I never went Viziam, so I like to think that I played with a relatively balanced version of the weapon. But to have that range back... preheating the shot was like wielding a mile-long lightsaber or something. Yeah, everyone knew where you were. But if you stayed close enough to your mass of blues, it didn't matter much. It was fun enough to tempt me away from my true love, the HMG. ¶Gêƒ__ Gò« Gû¿GûêGûêGûêGòáGëíGëíGëíGû¬ « GÇó GÇó GÇó GÇó GÇó GÇó GÇó GåÆFAT GATGåÉ pÇûGûôGûôGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæpÇùForum Warrior LV 1 (NEXT: 200/1000XP) ¯Gò¦pÇôpÇù
Saxbrin Shain Ivory Vanguard 100	Posted - 2013.12.11 00:25:00 - [16] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: What if we shove the laser rifle to be more of a sniper rifle? It doesn't need to reach out to extreme ranges, but I don't think any one weapon should be more effective at both ends of the Laser Rifle's effective range. I'm fine with being outclassed at short range, and at long range, but not by the same weapon.
Aero Yassavi Scions of Athra 3934	Posted - 2013.12.11 00:46:00 - [17] - Quote Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: Green Living says otherwise. versus starter fits??......lol. lasers and HMG are dead in patch 1.7 No, against the shitstorm of prototype suits the Minmatar seem to have suddenly acquired overnight. Angels of vengeance, angels of mercy, scions of Athra. Amarr Victor
Zahle Undt Unkn0wn Killers Renegade Alliance 520	Posted - 2013.12.11 01:16:00 - [18] - Quote Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: pases from playing Kingdoms of Amalor. tried patch 1.7 laser R.I.P delete Dust 514 maybe 1.8 will revive lasers and HMG? goes back to playing Kingdoms of Amalor I tried to like KoA, I really did, but it suffers from Elder Scrolls syndrome, too much side quest not enough plot/main quest. I have to ask as someone who doesn't use the laser, is it because there are Rail and Combat rifles that are able to reach out and actually hurt the laser rifle user that makes it R.I.P.?
JDEZ09 Dark Side Alliance 27	Posted - 2013.12.11 01:31:00 - [19] - Quote If you are not AMARR assault, then don't mess with the laser period. It's too dangerous for you children. If you are Amarr assault, then spark that baby down to 88 in the chamber, wait for the cool down, Get into position (where theres like 5 people wide out in the open) and kill em all in one stream. If there all proto then you will probably kill like 3 of them while the others bunny hop away with like 1/4 of their armor left. Lasers are only really good on Prototype level. They are exponentially better at each tier. Still though, I get what you're saying because of the Cal Rail Rifle. I'm just gonna let you know that I am a guy that does say... "OOO wait till I pull out my laser rifle. Here I go.. and then I proceed to melt faces because I have proficiency lvl 5 with it, where it really shines. (Dmg mods are also another factor) Do you go charging in with a laser rifle? No Do you work with a squad and keep close eye on the perimeters where yall are operating? Yes :) Yes lasers are situational, which is why you wont see me pulling it out first. It's like the squad marksman weapon, notice I said squad, because you're gonna need all the ammo you can get lol.
Flix Keptick Red Star. EoN. 1495	Posted - 2013.12.11 01:34:00 - [20] - Quote Disturbingly Bored wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: What if we shove the laser rifle to be more of a sniper rifle? I'd start using it again. Same ADS. NO MAXIMUM RANGE. It is light, after all. Do eet CCP It would work even better with the old (or lack) of sights. I am talking about the holographic one, not the awful iron aights "HP needs no buff, certain weapons need nerf. Or else all other become obsolete." GÿåForum warrior lvl.1Gÿå

Patrick57 Fatal Absolution 1975	Posted - 2013.12.11 01:46:00 - [21] - Quote Flix Keptick wrote: Disturbingly Bored wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: What if we shove the laser rifle to be more of a sniper rifle? I'd start using it again. Same ADS. NO MAXIMUM RANGE. It is light, after all. Do eet CCP It would work even better with the old (or lack) of sights. I am talking about the holographic one, not the awful iron aights The sight now seems to work fine for me. I'd be happy with one that has slightly less zoom than the Combat Rifle's scope has. When I'm depressed, I cut myself......A BIG SLICE OF CHOCOLATE CAKE!
TEBOW BAGGINS Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 1049	Posted - 2013.12.11 01:48:00 - [22] - Quote AR or GTFO *goes back to GTAO content creator.
Meeko Fent Commando Perkone Caldari State 1706	Posted - 2013.12.11 01:52:00 - [23] - Quote Dude, If the LR is the one thing you play the game for, then you sir, choose the one useless gun in the game. You REALLY cant expect a weapon that does Meh damage in a 20 meter window that is 60 meters out to NOT be UP. DUST is a half decent game. Be happy its free.
Patrick57 Fatal Absolution 1975	Posted - 2013.12.11 01:55:00 - [24] - Quote Meeko Fent wrote: Dude, If the LR is the one thing you play the game for, then you sir, choose the one useless gun in the game. You REALLY cant expect a weapon that does Meh damage in a 20 meter window that is 60 meters out to NOT be UP. It's soooo fun to use! :D When I'm depressed, I cut myself......A BIG SLICE OF CHOCOLATE CAKE!
TunRa RETR0 PR0 GAMERS INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS 257	Posted - 2013.12.11 02:26:00 - [25] - Quote YEAH QQ! Thanks CCP Foxfour
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 970	Posted - 2013.12.11 02:50:00 - [26] - Quote I have no problem with the laser being UP. The problem with the laser is its now useless in every scenario. Abandon Ship!, Abandon Ship!! Jumps into escape pod! Selected destination Planet PS4.
Tek Hound Death In Xcess Corporation 157	Posted - 2013.12.11 02:59:00 - [27] - Quote Its ok the PLC is right there with all the AA weapons
Nocturnal Soul Immortal Retribution 1256	Posted - 2013.12.11 03:20:00 - [28] - Quote Every time me and my bud shotgun famous got redlined in caldari FW I always thought man wish I had a rail rifle the thought that I had pro lvl 2 in the or never even touched my mind. "The trick to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources..." Albert Einstein
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 973	Posted - 2013.12.11 23:32:00 - [29] - Quote I am not mad. Just wondering how CCP thinks that makeing lasers and HMGs useless is going to increase the player base??? Abandon Ship!, Abandon Ship!! Jumps into escape pod! Selected destination Planet PS4.
Dragonmeballs Better Hide R Die 2	Posted - 2013.12.13 16:43:00 - [30] - Quote As some have pointed out the LR is just about useless at the moment. If I may summarize the suggested improvements with a few tweaks of my own. 1. The LR is definitely a weapon which should only be useful in certain situations a. CQC= no!!! It should not be very effective at 40 meters or less as that would make it OP b. Sweat spot: 80-120 meters would be fine. It should out range all the handheld light weapons except for the sniper rifle. 2. The TTK within the range with the rifles should not be increased. I hate the idea of losing a one on one but I only think it is fair that this weapon be a thinking mercs weapon. That said, if you heat it up first then the TTK should be such so you at least have a better than 50/50 chance against a Scrambler or a Rail at 80m. The winner of such a contest should be the one with the best aim utilizing ADS. 3. Increase the zoom when ADS. Greater range also means there is a need to hold that beam on target and that is not easy with the dead spot on the controller. I don't see bunny hopping going away so the skill of the shooter is the key to a kill at 120 meters. A better view of the target while ADS is a must. If a GEK can deliver 400 hp of damage in less than a second I don't think it is unfair for the LR to be able to unravel a medium suit in 2.5 sec at 120 meters. One might argue these changes make the weapon OP. I disagree. Every time you use the LR you give away your position. Snipers and shotgun scouts know exactly where you are and if you decide to camp then you deserve what happens next. If the MD is a short range area denial weapon then LR could fill the need for a medium range equivalent. TL:DR LR is broken in 1.7 Buff range Increase magnification of scope Restore skill shooting to Dust

Viktor Hadah Jr 0uter.Heaven Proficiency V. 1450	Posted - 2013.12.13 16:53:00 - [31] - Quote https://zkillboard.com/detail/35178946/ Tell this guy I ob'd last night that lasers are dead. Amarr My OB Kills Selling Templar BPO
Kharga Lum Xeno Labs Security 150	Posted - 2013.12.13 16:58:00 - [32] - Quote Instead of changing the roll adjust the fall off so it's more gradual instead of being an almost vertical drop in performance as soon as you step 1m outside it's range. This would bring it more inline with other light weapons.
Green Living Scions of Athra 1047	Posted - 2013.12.13 17:25:00 - [33] - Quote After actually playing some matches this patch, I too proclaim the Laser Rifle officially dead. I'm outranged and out damaged even in my minuscule optimal zone. It saddens me greatly as I have used this weapon almost exclusively since its induction in the game. I got to experience god mode and then suffer from nerf after nerf after nerf. This time the gun was un-touched, but the range extended for other guns making my gun obsolete. I'm optimistic for some tweaks come 1.8 to my favorite weapon, until then I will just run the SCR. ( Unless it's Anus Peak, my favorite LR board).
Mortedeamor WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men. 986	Posted - 2013.12.13 17:26:00 - [34] - Quote Jason Pearson wrote: This patch was for the Vehicles, I'm sure the infantry work will come soon. And I'mma be honest Tanking is very fun right now, and I'm not even fighting Infantry (Legitimately going between 4-10 kills a match with a death or two). my record as of yet is 32/0 ina soma
Talryn Vilneram SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 61	Posted - 2013.12.13 17:54:00 - [35] - Quote I gave up the LR for a ScR on my Amarr Assault suits and I use a RR or CR on everything else. Which is too bad, I have the most SP in LRs and Snipers...
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 3108	Posted - 2013.12.13 17:55:00 - [36] - Quote Again. Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 3 STB-Infantry (Demolition)
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 977	Posted - 2013.12.15 00:05:00 - [37] - Quote new eden tourbus stops. and right here died the last known laser user........... new eded tour guide says and now we are enroute to the HMG museum. Abandon Ship!, Abandon Ship!! Jumps into escape pod! Selected destination Planet PS4.
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 2629	Posted - 2013.12.15 00:10:00 - [38] - Quote Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: pases from playing Kingdoms of Amalor. tried patch 1.7 laser R.I.P delete Dust 514 maybe 1.8 will revive lasers and HMG? goes back to playing Kingdoms of Amalor How can you spend so much time in Amalur? The gameplay was awesome, but the world was the worst I've seen in an RPG. R.I.P. Laser. No.
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 978	Posted - 2013.12.15 12:42:00 - [39] - Quote Chunky Munkey wrote: Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: pases from playing Kingdoms of Amalor. tried patch 1.7 laser R.I.P delete Dust 514 maybe 1.8 will revive lasers and HMG? goes back to playing Kingdoms of Amalor How can you spend so much time in Amalur? The gameplay was awesome, but the world was the worst I've seen in an RPG. R.I.P. Laser. just finished Kingdoms of Amalor and it was so much fun now its on to either TLOU, Tales of Graces or Dragons Dogma or GTA V. Abandon Ship!, Abandon Ship!! Jumps into escape pod! Selected destination Planet PS4.
Mortedeamor WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men. 998	Posted - 2013.12.15 13:19:00 - [40] - Quote Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: Chunky Munkey wrote: Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: pases from playing Kingdoms of Amalor. tried patch 1.7 laser R.I.P delete Dust 514 maybe 1.8 will revive lasers and HMG? goes back to playing Kingdoms of Amalor How can you spend so much time in Amalur? The gameplay was awesome, but the world was the worst I've seen in an RPG. R.I.P. Laser. just finished Kingdoms of Amalor and it was so much fun now its on to either TLOU, Tales of Graces or Dragons Dogma or GTA V. yeah im touching up diablo 3 im only 10% though gtav and i have hardly touched borderlands 2..xD but thanks to dust being so miserable im finally catching up



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