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Ripley Riley
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Posted - 2013.12.10 17:18:00 -
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I spawn into my first match of the morning with optimism. 1.7's patch notes looked great on paper and so far I haven't witness any game breaking bugs. With my shiny new rail rifle in hand I take to the field with my squad...
Fast forward through several FW and instant battles...
In my naivety I forgot the majority of the playerbase in Dust: The Protobear. Little did I know, but they are turning out in record numbers to play with all of 1.7's new toys. Duvolle AR's, Imperial SR's, and every proto logi suit under the sun proceed to remind me that they are going to win regardless of the tactics I use or the quality of my squad composition.
So I acknowledge 1.7 as a bittersweet victory; while FW 2.0 is a massive improvement, while the new weapons are both hilariously fun, while the vehicle rebalance appears to be a success... we will all continue to suffer with protostompers.
On a related note: I think CCP is purposefully moving incredibly slowly on the protostomping issue. Think about it, the more players who get horrendously murdered by the protobears the more people are tempted to buy AUR weapons and armor to combat the proto-hordes.
One final note, CCP Remnant believes TTK is a-okay. You heard it here folks: that Duvolle AR dropping you in 1.1 seconds is working as intended.
"I need not food nor water. Your tears alone sustain me." - Ripley Riley
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bolsh lee
Ahrendee Mercenaries
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Posted - 2013.12.10 17:20:00 -
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Phaize Kilrathi
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Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.12.10 17:26:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:On a related note: I think CCP is purposefully moving incredibly slowly on the protostomping issue. Think about it, the more players who get horrendously murdered by the protobears the more people are tempted to buy AUR weapons and armor to combat the proto-hordes.
Since I'm at work I haven't really looked into the cost but instead of spending AUR you can buy proto weapons in LP store. Adv level skills will be required.
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Xocoyol Zaraoul
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Posted - 2013.12.10 17:29:00 -
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Maybe if you all did not threaten to TK protostompers in FW so much even if they were not in protosuits, maybe they would not have shown up in huge packs to protect each other in protosuits...
OR MAYBE I'M TAKING CRAZY PILLS?!
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Ripley Riley
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Posted - 2013.12.10 17:30:00 -
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Phaize Kilrathi wrote:Since I'm at work I haven't really looked into the cost but instead of spending AUR you can buy proto weapons in LP store. Adv level skills will be required.
Technically you are right, but you do not get ISK for participating in FW. You are forced to turn to instant battles for ISK; which is where you will get protostomped frequently and thoroughly.
"I need not food nor water. Your tears alone sustain me." - Ripley Riley
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Ripley Riley
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Posted - 2013.12.10 17:34:00 -
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Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:Maybe if you all did not threaten to TK protostompers in FW so much even if they were not in protosuits, maybe they would not have shown up in huge packs to protect each other in protosuits...
I think you are giving protobears a little too much credit... they aren't in full proto gear because they are afraid of someone TK'ing them. They are in full proto gear because it allows them to go 30/1 while semi-AFK.
"I need not food nor water. Your tears alone sustain me." - Ripley Riley
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Drapedup Drippedout
0uter.Heaven
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Posted - 2013.12.10 17:35:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:
One final note, CCP Remnant believes TTK is a-okay. You heard it here folks: that Duvolle AR dropping you in 1.1 seconds is working as intended.
CCP Remnant: "The work weGÇÖve done on aim and control systems has only really come together in the last few months, and this combined with recent changes to weapon range have been the biggest culprits behind the shorter TTK. ItGÇÖs taken us longer than weGÇÖd have liked, but I do believe that the second-to-second combat in DUST is more enjoyable than itGÇÖs ever been. Not perfect, but a lot better. DUST is very much a game about outcomes and so the TTK IGÇÖd like to see in DUST is one long enough for the differences in dropsuit fittings (be that higher damage, more HP or faster regen) to help shape the outcome, but short enough to not have to dance around my opponent until one of us is mercifully put out of our misery; that fine line where the edge given by twitch skill or a smart fitting blurs and the outcome becomes unpredictable"
So not necessarily "working as intended", but rather "we are close to where we want to be". Personally, I think they are on the side of just a little too short TTK right now. |
Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.12.10 17:37:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:Maybe if you all did not threaten to TK protostompers in FW so much even if they were not in protosuits, maybe they would not have shown up in huge packs to protect each other in protosuits... I think you are giving protobears a little too much credit... they aren't in full proto gear because they are afraid of someone TK'ing them. They are in full proto gear because it allows them to go 30/1 while semi-AFK.
Annnnd how much of that 30-1 is from team killing you reckon?
OK, CCP. When are knives finally going to be improved?
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Ripley Riley
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Posted - 2013.12.10 17:38:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Annnnd how much of that 30-1 is from team killing you reckon?
Not much of it considering after 4 kills you are kicked from FW for 24 hours...
"I need not food nor water. Your tears alone sustain me." - Ripley Riley
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Ripley Riley
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Posted - 2013.12.10 17:39:00 -
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Drapedup Drippedout wrote:So not necessarily "working as intended", but rather "we are close to where we want to be". Personally, I think they are on the side of just a little too short TTK right now.
Close to where we want it to be? Ah, I see, so 1.3 seconds TTK against a Duvolle AR. Understood.
"I need not food nor water. Your tears alone sustain me." - Ripley Riley
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Jariel Manton
SVER True Blood
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Posted - 2013.12.10 17:41:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:Maybe if you all did not threaten to TK protostompers in FW so much even if they were not in protosuits, maybe they would not have shown up in huge packs to protect each other in protosuits... I think you are giving protobears a little too much credit... they aren't in full proto gear because they are afraid of someone TK'ing them. They are in full proto gear because it allows them to go 30/1 while semi-AFK.
L.O.L.
Your tears are delicious, grow up. Play the game for 3 months and get in a proto suit.
I just dont understand this community, your complaining that people are using good suits. Thats like a rupture roam complaining that the enemy brought AHACS.
You fly expensive things to win, you fly cheap things for lols. Run expensive gear to win, run cheap gear for lols. Stop complaining about loosing and train the skills necessary to counter.
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Ripley Riley
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Posted - 2013.12.10 17:46:00 -
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Jariel Manton wrote: Your tears are delicious, grow up. Play the game for 3 months and get in a proto suit.
I can fit a proto caldari suit. I don't use them for multiple reasons, but the top being they are too expensive. I haven't been around since beta so ISK is tight for me. At one time I ran advanced suits, but when you get protostomped for a few nights in a row you can't even afford to do that anymore.
Jariel Manton wrote:I just don't understand this community, your complaining that people are using good suits. That is like a rupture roam complaining that the enemy brought AHACS.
Trouble is, in Eve you can run away in a rupture if you see a HAC coming. The HAC might gank one or two of you, but the rest will probably make it out of there. What are my options in Dust? Leave match, join another match with more protobears?
[/quote]You fly expensive things to win, you fly cheap things for lols. Run expensive gear to win, run cheap gear for lols. Stop complaining about losing and train the skills necessary to counter.[/quote]
What skills counter having a significantly stronger tank and the ability to fit prototype weapons exactly? Assuming I can't afford proto gear.
"I need not food nor water. Your tears alone sustain me." - Ripley Riley
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TEBOW BAGGINS
Seykal Expeditionary Group
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.12.10 17:48:00 -
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proto does not ruin the game. it's the aim bot that this noob community has such a hardon for is what ruins it. until they renerf aim bot (yes it was nerfed over one year ago before being brought back) this game can never be balanced. CCP won over the hearts of a buncha PCgaming noncompetitive f@gz at the expense of everything else. |
TEBOW BAGGINS
Seykal Expeditionary Group
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.12.10 17:53:00 -
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Jariel Manton wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:Maybe if you all did not threaten to TK protostompers in FW so much even if they were not in protosuits, maybe they would not have shown up in huge packs to protect each other in protosuits... I think you are giving protobears a little too much credit... they aren't in full proto gear because they are afraid of someone TK'ing them. They are in full proto gear because it allows them to go 30/1 while semi-AFK. L.O.L. Your tears are delicious, grow up. Play the game for 3 months and get in a proto suit. I just dont understand this community, your complaining that people are using good suits. Thats like a rupture roam complaining that the enemy brought AHACS. You fly expensive things to win, you fly cheap things for lols. Run expensive gear to win, run cheap gear for lols. Stop complaining about loosing and train the skills necessary to counter.
do they also cry on battlfield/cod forums for everyone to remove their non default weps, attachments and perks? fukn noobs these days... |
Ripley Riley
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Posted - 2013.12.10 18:00:00 -
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TEBOW BAGGINS wrote:proto does not ruin the game. it's the aim bot that this noob community has such a hardon for is what ruins it. until they renerf aim bot (yes it was nerfed over one year ago before being brought back) this game can never be balanced. CCP won over the hearts of a buncha PCgaming noncompetitive f@gz at the expense of everything else.
Look, I get that you don't want your gravy train to stop. Way back I played a shaman in WoW when they could windfury proc and drop pretty much any class in a second. Believe me, I understand why you hold on to your protostomping ways. It's easy and probably fun to protostomp... but you are causing new and semi-new players to quit Dust simply so you can get some easy ISK and SP.
I personally want to see Dust flourish, and we won't see that day so long as protobears keep doing what protobears do.
"I need not food nor water. Your tears alone sustain me." - Ripley Riley
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