then slowly spec into it. great things come to those with patience.

i see no need to refund the skills.

As the title said. Because I'd have picked the caldari rail rifle if it had been available back then. Think a few minmatar could feel the same about the combat rifle.

Thanks for the hard work and taking time to listen to your players.

If you guys honestly think we should be penalized because CCP gave us a half finished game with almost no content at the start, you're nuts.

Why should we be forced to save millions of SP on a feature we were waiting for since day one and not progress hoping that CCP works on the patch that I want to come out?

That's like if Eve came out and was like "Hey guys, We only have Amar capital ships, Caldari cruisers, Galente frigates, and Minimtar Transport ships, and building a character has to be "OH man, I really like this one faction and weapons, but the game is forcing me to play another faction because it fits my playstyle better".

OP Translation:

"I've put a lot of SP in past OP weapon, now I want it all back to get the current FOTM"

What happens when you have some one like me, Who wants to have an amarr character only, but can't due to the games current content, and skill up the galente shotgun, and then when the amarr shotgun comes out I have to re train into it?

Esp with Factional Warfare and factional LP now, I want all one faction. but it's hard due to this game has giant gaps in factions. Every race has a problem atm, What happens if you want to play heavy suit, and you have to train amarr, and then one of your factions heavy suits come out? It's not "I want to pick the new OP suit" it's, "Hey, that's my faction, They finally made a suite for that!"

What happens when you have some one like me, Who wants to have an amarr character only, but can't due to the games current content, and skill up the galente shotgun, and then when the amarr shotgun comes out I have to re train into it?

Esp with Factional Warfare and factional LP now, I want all one faction. but it's hard due to this game has giant gaps in factions. Every race has a problem atm, What happens if you want to play heavy suit, and you have to train amarr, and then one of your factions heavy suits come out? It's not "I want to pick the new OP suit" it's, "Hey, that's my faction, They finally made a suite for that!"

[quote=Merlox Lancaster]
Edit (KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf): I do agree with a limited a limited SP transfer for when racial symmetry occurs. However, certain branches are not perfectly symmetric (Suits may differ in support skills; What's the equivalent of the MD?) which could make this a quite complicated task for certain parts.

KAGEHOSHI, you always seem to make sense. What's your secret? :D

But yea. I support a weapon respec, definitely. When there's finally the other racial suits, yes please. Sadly, I do not think that the other racial weapons will come out. Rifles are sort of an exception, being a very common weapon on all battlefields, but I don't think that a Caldari Shotgun will ever be a "thing", nor will a Minmatar Sniper Rifle (Although a Mosin-Nagant type of weapon would be pretty awesome), nor will the Gallente Forge Gun, and so on.

Racial Suits, and Racial Rifles. Those are the two things I want a respec in when they hit "symmetry", as KAGE called it. Because I want my Caldari Scout, when it hits market, and I want my Boundless CBR, because I love me a Burst Rifle. Always. They're the best.

So yup. I think part of the problem is SP gain/Skill Costs. In EVE, I never felt a huge grind for equipment. The biggest grind I had there was getting my Heavy Scout Drones, and even then it was about a day or so. And I understand this isn't EVE, but you need to remember that a F2P game with such a long grind is REALLY bad for business. Warframe, for example, probably should hold the record for the longest grind, and it seems like every time I try to play that game, I instantly get turned off by the 3-day hunt for craftables. Same with War Thunder, and same with... Well, most F2P games in general.

I know that they need the grind to be big, so people will buy boosters, so that they get more money, but I actually think bigger SP gains and lowered skill prices would INCREASE the money they make. More SP gain = More SP gained from boosters (+50%, right?), which means more people want boosters, because they just got a buff.

But I don't know, just thoughts. Maybe if they made it like EVE, where you can train skills in real time? Reply to this with your suggestions. :)

Thank you

About weapons
And there is still the racial pistols; ion pistol (Gallente), and bolt pistol (Caldari)
While there likely won't be racial forge guns or racial HMGs, there will be racial heavy weapons. I would consider the HMG and forge gun as the same class of weapon, and we have a racial laser weapon (Amarr), and racial plasma weapon (Gallente) to look forward to.
I would also consider plasma cannon and swarm launcher the same type, light AV weapons. If other racial light AV weapons are planned, and they all arrive, then I think a partial respec for light AV weapon skill-tree would be warranted. I suppose it can be debatable.

No.

They will always add New things.

No.

They will always add New things.

YES.

And here's why. What these weapons do is COMPLETELY render a primary weapon class (AR), obsolete. I have AR MAXED, and have for a while. Now, all I have is sniper rifle as it's the only other weapon I'm spec'd in. And we're not even going to bring up the AR blueprints.

If each of the 3 had an advantage over the other, that would be fair. The combat rifle could have the higher ROF, the RR could have greater range, the AR more damage. The way it is now, the AR is useless and I spent a lot of SP on my primary acct. on the AR. So damn right I deserve a respec. This isn't just a new thing, this is rendering a lot of people's primary choice of weapon useless. So stop thinking of yourself, and think about the other people who this actually wrecked the game for.

Way to go CCP...

YES.

And here's why. What these weapons do is COMPLETELY render a primary weapon class (AR), obsolete. I have AR MAXED, and have for a while. Now, all I have is sniper rifle as it's the only other weapon I'm spec'd in. And we're not even going to bring up the AR blueprints.

If each of the 3 had an advantage over the other, that would be fair. The combat rifle could have the higher ROF, the RR could have greater range, the AR more damage. The way it is now, the AR is useless and I spent a lot of SP on my primary acct. on the AR. So damn right I deserve a respec. This isn't just a new thing, this is rendering a lot of people's primary choice of weapon useless.

Way to go CCP...