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PEW JACKSON
s i n g u l a r i t y
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Posted - 2013.12.09 16:33:00 -
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Math and a slight dyslexia makes crunching numbers painful...
What is the total dmg boost from 3 complex dmg mods? |
Rogue Saint
Science For Death
594
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Posted - 2013.12.09 16:35:00 -
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26.4%
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Aero Yassavi
Scions of Athra
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Posted - 2013.12.09 16:37:00 -
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Approximately 26.4% damage increase.
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PEW JACKSON
s i n g u l a r i t y
118
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Posted - 2013.12.09 16:37:00 -
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Could you show me the method you used (for reference)?
Thank you for the speedy reply though  |
Rogue Saint
Science For Death
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Posted - 2013.12.09 16:39:00 -
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S(n) = 0.5^[((n-1) / 2.22292081) ^2]
n = n'th module added
S = stacking penalty for module
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Aero Yassavi
Scions of Athra
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Posted - 2013.12.09 16:42:00 -
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PEW JACKSON wrote:Could you show me the method you used (for reference)? Thank you for the speedy reply though
Stacking penalties can be viewed here. Further more, modules are compounded together. The first module takes on 100% the value, so 10% bonus. The second module takes on a 86.9% of the value, so 8.69% bonus. The third module takes on 57.1% of the module, so 5.71% bonus.
1.10 * 1.0869 * 1.0571 = 1.264 roughly.
Thus, you are getting a 26.4% bonus.
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Son-Of A-Gun
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
598
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Posted - 2013.12.09 16:43:00 -
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Confirming: 26.385819%
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Asirius Medaius
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Posted - 2013.12.09 16:43:00 -
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PEW JACKSON wrote:Could you show me the method you used (for reference)? Thank you for the speedy reply though
http://dust514.wikia.com/wiki/Stacking_Penalty
Stacking math goes as follows: 10%*(1.0) + 10%*(.87) + 10%*(.57) = 24.4%, from the math that I used with the stacking penalty.
However, CCP somehow has 26.4% with 3 modules on the sheet with 10% modifiers as an exception, which I have no reason as to why or how they got that number (and furthermore, why they gave it such an exception.
Regardless, by my method or by CCP's method with just 10% added modules being stacked, you will see between 24.4 and 26.4 percent (24.4 being worst case scenario).
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Harpyja
DUST University
Ivy League
884
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Posted - 2013.12.09 16:50:00 -
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Asirius Medaius wrote:PEW JACKSON wrote:Could you show me the method you used (for reference)? Thank you for the speedy reply though http://dust514.wikia.com/wiki/Stacking_PenaltyStacking math goes as follows: 10%*(1.0) + 10%*(.87) + 10%*(.57) = 24.4%, from the math that I used with the stacking penalty. However, CCP somehow has 26.4% with 3 modules on the sheet with 10% modifiers as an exception, which I have no reason as to why or how they got that number (and furthermore, why they gave it such an exception. Regardless, by my method or by CCP's method with just 10% added modules being stacked, you will see between 24.4 and 26.4 percent (24.4 being worst case scenario).
You don't add them together. Look at the previous replies
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Viktor Hadah Jr
0uter.Heaven
Proficiency V.
1401
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Posted - 2013.12.09 16:54:00 -
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26.4 can we get a few more people to answer so he understands better.
Amarr
Dual tanking is a sin
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Aero Yassavi
Scions of Athra
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Posted - 2013.12.09 16:55:00 -
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Asirius Medaius wrote:However, CCP somehow has 26.4% with 3 modules on the sheet with 10% modifiers as an exception, which I have no reason as to why or how they got that number (and furthermore, why they gave it such an exception. The reason is because the modules are compounded, not added.
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Son-Of A-Gun
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
598
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Posted - 2013.12.09 16:56:00 -
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PEW JACKSON wrote:Could you show me the method you used (for reference)? Thank you for the speedy reply though
For a mod with a 10% bonus, such as the damage mod, applyed to the damage stat of the std AR, the equation would be as follows:
(Includes stacking penalties to the fifth mod)
34.00(1.10) GÇó (1 + (.896GÇó.10) GÇó (1 + (.571GÇó.10) GÇó (1 + (.283GÇó.10) GÇó (1 + (.106GÇó.10) = x
Stacking penalties:
1st mod: 100.0% effectiveness
2nd mod: 86.9% effectiveness
3rd mod: 57.1% effectiveness
4th mod: 28.3% effectiveness-á
5th mod: 10.6% effectiveness
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Son-Of A-Gun
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
600
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Posted - 2013.12.09 17:01:00 -
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{edit^^^
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PEW JACKSON
s i n g u l a r i t y
118
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Posted - 2013.12.09 17:07:00 -
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All right so I have a grasp of the stacking penalties for the Complex dmg mods.
How does the 26.4% value stack with 15% from proficiency? Is it simply added onto the 26.4? |
Rogue Saint
Science For Death
598
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Posted - 2013.12.09 17:09:00 -
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PEW JACKSON wrote:All right so I have a grasp of the stacking penalties for the Complex dmg mods.
How does the 26.4% value stack with 15% from proficiency? Is it simply added onto the 26.4?
Yep.
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Flix Keptick
Red Star.
EoN.
1473
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Posted - 2013.12.09 17:10:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:26.4 can we get a few more people to answer so he understands better.
I think it's 26.4%, needs confirmation
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Son-Of A-Gun
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
601
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Posted - 2013.12.09 17:10:00 -
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PEW JACKSON wrote:All right so I have a grasp of the stacking penalties for the Complex dmg mods.
How does the 26.4% value stack with 15% from proficiency? Is it simply added onto the 26.4?
Prof is calculated first then the new damage value is applied to the equation I gave above.
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Flix Keptick
Red Star.
EoN.
1473
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Posted - 2013.12.09 17:11:00 -
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Rogue Saint wrote:PEW JACKSON wrote:All right so I have a grasp of the stacking penalties for the Complex dmg mods.
How does the 26.4% value stack with 15% from proficiency? Is it simply added onto the 26.4? Yep.
When you think about it, 41.4% additional damage is A ******* LOT!!!! 
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PEW JACKSON
s i n g u l a r i t y
118
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Posted - 2013.12.09 17:14:00 -
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Thank you math Wizards of DUST! |
Rogue Saint
Science For Death
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Posted - 2013.12.09 17:15:00 -
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Flix Keptick wrote:Rogue Saint wrote:PEW JACKSON wrote:All right so I have a grasp of the stacking penalties for the Complex dmg mods.
How does the 26.4% value stack with 15% from proficiency? Is it simply added onto the 26.4? Yep. When you think about it, 41.4% additional damage is A ******* LOT!!!!
It won't be though, since you have to take into account the damage profile of the gun and if you are shooting at the head/body.
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