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Medic 1879
Forsaken Immortals Top Men.
1371
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Posted - 2013.12.09 10:17:00 -
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8213 wrote:I get accused about once a day. And you'll always get accused by someone who scored less than you. Also, I know plenty of AE boys that simply cheat.
But usually it's not cheating that people are really trying to accuse you of. Its the game f*cking up and f*cking over the guy on the other end of the connection. Best connection ALWAYS wins in FPS, no matter what. So when people accuse you of cheating, it's not that you were so good they were frustrated at you, they were mad at the game's bullsh*t and took it out on you.
99% of the rage that happens in this game is CCP's fault, and they deserve it. This game is a failure and everyone knows it has a finite life cycle. We're just riding the wave until it breaks on the shore.
But today I got(we) got accused of using a spawn glitch because we "game out of nowhere" the entire game. I don't know if there is a "spawn glitch" in Skirmish, but we weren't using any glitches. And I don't think the guy was referring to putting uplinks in Null Cannons (which need to be fixed CCP), besides we don't do that anyways. Our corp has the best Logi core in the game, simple fact. We come from everywhere and anywhere because they know how to put their uplinks out to be most effective.
The glitch they might be referring to if not the null cannon one could be one I saw the other day where some reddots kept spawning behind one of the objectives always in the exact same spot so it was obviously an uplink but the uplink could not be seen, scanned or destroyed. Also had a weird one where the uplink appeared to be floating in the sky and reddots would spawn in freefall but shooting the floor below took out the uplink. They have been behaving a bit weird lately.
Also the uplink inside the null point is annoying as anything and its becoming more and more frequent I hate games where you have to camp a null cannon you have already taken because there is a reddot sat inside the point just waiting for you to wander off.
TEST signature please help me think of a better one.
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shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon
1131
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Posted - 2013.12.09 10:52:00 -
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Grease Spillett wrote: I probably know what you are doing before you know what you are doing... Basically you are scanning
"Just another piece of duct tape"
Drugs for mercs
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Denak Kalamari
Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative
700
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Posted - 2013.12.09 11:21:00 -
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I once got hatemail for blowing up a proto heavy and his proto logi friend with a single remote after they had killed me.
The tears were delicious.
Grahisha of ILF // Writer of Thoughts of a Clone Soldier // Latest entry published 05/12/13
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Rogue Saint
Science For Death
593
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Posted - 2013.12.09 11:22:00 -
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Couple of times a week max, probably more like 3 times a month.
GôêGÆ+GÆ+GƦ - Bringing the dakka
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Mregomies
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
130
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Posted - 2013.12.09 11:26:00 -
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I got "merde umane" from maphia clan unit unicorn player... my 1st hatemail... used charge sniper on him.. several times... muahahahahahahahahahahahahahaaaaa
Suomi, Finland, PERKELE!
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Lea Silencio
0uter.Heaven Proficiency V.
831
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Posted - 2013.12.09 11:33:00 -
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I have received every variety that you can imagine...
Modded controller. Mom insults. Death threats. The ironic "noob" that went 4/12 calling me a"noob". Questions about my manhood. Requests that I suicide myself. Your weapon is a crutch for skill. Your weapon is OP and "once I get mine, I will return the favor" messages.
Pick your flavor. I have ALL kinds.
PurificationGäó
It's what I do.
Amarr Victor
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Karl Marx II
Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire
346
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Posted - 2013.12.09 11:55:00 -
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Lea Silencio wrote:I have received every variety that you can imagine...
Modded controller. Mom insults. Death threats. The ironic "noob" that went 4/12 calling me a"noob". Questions about my manhood. Requests that I suicide myself. Your weapon is a crutch for skill. Your weapon is OP and "once I get mine, I will return the favor" messages.
Pick your flavor. I have ALL kinds.
I find all of that hard to believe .....
You aren't very good
xD
My Theme
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negative49er
Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic
381
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Posted - 2013.12.09 12:01:00 -
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one dude accuse me of hacking because my madruger beat his gunnologi
One day my shotgun will run out ammo
1.7 is the day if I fight or i give up
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LudiKure ninda
Black Phoenix Mercenaries
53
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Posted - 2013.12.09 12:59:00 -
[39] - Quote
Few people said to me that im using a turbo controler,..haha |
xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn
1259
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Posted - 2013.12.09 14:29:00 -
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Mregomies wrote:I got "merde umane" from maphia clan unit unicorn player... my 1st hatemail... used charge sniper on him.. several times... muahahahahahahahahahahahahahaaaaa
That's exactly what you snipers are! not going to tell you what does "merde umane" means lol
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Mortedeamor
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men.
966
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Posted - 2013.12.09 14:38:00 -
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almost every other day |
Mortedeamor
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men.
966
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Posted - 2013.12.09 14:39:00 -
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Grease Spillett wrote:When I play on my alt I find it hilarious when people go on about corporations and players cheating.
1 if you know how to cheat pm me.
2 anyone ever play me and think I was cheating when something happened or you died?
I'm really curious what popular belief is and what big name players have to say. I feel insulted when accused of cheating. I know i should take it as a compliment but ugh. I just play this game ALL THE TIME. I probably know what you are doing before you know what you are doing... oh yeah grease u cheater lols...last i checked u dont cheat |
Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
5740
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Posted - 2013.12.09 14:42:00 -
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You bastards are so lucky. I never got a single piece of hate mail for using a Nova Knife.
OK, CCP. When are knives finally going to be improved?
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xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn
1260
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Posted - 2013.12.09 14:50:00 -
[44] - Quote
It depends on what you mean by cheating. If you mean "an activity that modifies the game experience to give one player an advantage over others" (wikipedia) then, yes, I can cheat.
- Bad matchmaking (Stacking) - Qsync (Stacking) - Weapons / Dropsuit Tier system (Boosting) - Nanohives spam (Artificial lag) - Uplinks spam (Artificial lag)
- Gal Logis - Cal Logis - Sniper Rifles
And another dozen at least.
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Bethhy
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
429
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Posted - 2013.12.09 14:59:00 -
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I spend a fair amount of time in new DUST corps with alts.
And the consensus from them is that the top corporations are 80% Mouse and keyboard users and the ones that aren't all have turbo controllers...
It explains so much about DUST's forums. |
Lea Silencio
0uter.Heaven Proficiency V.
833
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Posted - 2013.12.09 16:27:00 -
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Karl Marx II wrote:Lea Silencio wrote:I have received every variety that you can imagine...
Modded controller. Mom insults. Death threats. The ironic "noob" that went 4/12 calling me a"noob". Questions about my manhood. Requests that I suicide myself. Your weapon is a crutch for skill. Your weapon is OP and "once I get mine, I will return the favor" messages.
Pick your flavor. I have ALL kinds. I find all of that hard to believe ..... You aren't very good xD
If you only knew. Want me to forward you a few?
PurificationGäó
It's what I do.
Amarr Victor
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR
F.T.U. IMMORTAL REGIME
766
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Posted - 2013.12.09 16:32:00 -
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I got hate mail for going 40/1 in a scout suit. they said my corp was a bunch of hackers, because all 6 of us got our own orbital and were on top of the list.
Tell me, how exactly DOES a biscuit gain Valor?
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CLONE117
planetary retaliation organisation
498
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Posted - 2013.12.09 16:33:00 -
[48] - Quote
maybe the should learn to aim.... never mind i take dat back dont learn to aim with your controller i dont want to have to try and dodge bullets. |
Cpl Foster USMC
Just Me...No Corp...
339
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Posted - 2013.12.09 16:54:00 -
[49] - Quote
is it cheating if I make my own isk by working the system and therefore get to play whatever play style I want whenever I want...?
Tanks, Helos, 150,000 isk Sniper suits all day...
I once lost about 12,000,000 isk in ONE match before....and it was fun as hell.....!!!! gave like 12 tanks away that match...
I don't care who wins...I'm just here for the killin'...
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Michael Epic
The Neutral Zone
160
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Posted - 2013.12.09 17:09:00 -
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Honestly? There is a lot of lag switching and modded controller users out there.
Some people even using modded keyboard and mouse and I've begun to notice the trends of cheating.
So far in my estimation (being on both winning sides and losing sides) there are 3 specific corporations who everytime I encounter, I see lag glitches and proof of modded controllers.
What the French - Charges: In a match Saturday night, one player dropped 7 orbitals in one match. It requires 2500 points to get an orbital. That's 17,500 war points to power 7 orbitals. We sat back and counted them while the blueberries got murdered. Upon the ending of the match, the player his squad only has 10,573 warpoints between the 6 of them. That means each one had around 1700 and change.
Also, this player was able to stand in one spot and kill anything that got close to him. He magically deflected a forge gun attack, 2 tank missle attacks, a remote explosive charge and at least 4 of us (The Neutral Zone) opening fire on him in CQC and he killed us all before he took a bit of damage.
On the scoreboard? 44/0. I don't know how that is possible....but he wasn't taking any damage. I suspect fowl play because the math and logic of that just doesn't add up. I see that crap all the time with "What the French" as a corp. Any time we enter a match with them, its glitchy as hell and raspberries that aren't even part of What the French are lagged to hell and back. You will start to shoot them and by the time you circle around them and kill them, they're still shooting you in the doorway where you were like 3-5 seconds ago. -
Synergy Gaming - Same problems as what the french, just not as extreme
WarRavens - Same problems as what the french, just not as extreme -
That's the only time I run into anyone who seems like they are cheating. Often times I'm on...mostly at night and you can see the trends. On Wednesday, its hell to play the game because all of the cheaters are out in full force getting their BONUS SP. By Saturday they have all their SP and they're gone. Sunday - Tuesday is the time to play.
We always have matches pretty evenly matched and we see ZERO evidence of cheating until we run into ANY of the members from those 3 groups. Even if the match has ONE player from there...the matches go nuts. It never fails.
Their players disappear and reappear like 10 feet away and all kinds of stuff. Some of them are able to stand totally still and there's a new trick where they can hide INSIDE the null cannons and when you try to hack it, they blow you up with remote explosives. They drop nano's, droplinks and remote explosives in there so you can't hack it. Flux grenades, normal grenades, remote explosives and orbitals don't kill them.
Everytime What The French, Synergy Gaming or WarRavens are in a match....that stuff happens. So yeah...I never message them and accuse them because I know it and they know it. |
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Jadd Hatchen
Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
198
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Posted - 2013.12.09 17:21:00 -
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Grease Spillett wrote:When I play on my alt I find it hilarious when people go on about corporations and players cheating.
1 if you know how to cheat pm me.
2 anyone ever play me and think I was cheating when something happened or you died?
I'm really curious what popular belief is and what big name players have to say. I feel insulted when accused of cheating. I know i should take it as a compliment but ugh. I just play this game ALL THE TIME. I probably know what you are doing before you know what you are doing...
This is common to all games and even real life too. Everyone wants to believe that they are "doing it right" no matter what it is that they are doing. After all, why would anyone "do it wrong" on purpose? What they don't realize is that no every single person has full knowledge or full visibility to everything that his happening all the time. No one is "God" so they have to operate under the limited info that they have. Using those assumptions, they make the jump that if they and their friends are "doing it right" then the other guys are the bad guys and have to be "doing it wrong".
This happens in sports, in war, in gaming, hell in competitive female social circles it get down right obscene. The truth of the matter is that everyone is a person no more or less than any other. Everyone believes they are the "good guys" or else they wouldn't continue to do what they are doing as it's self-defeating. So they have to attribute "bad guy" thinking and behavior to the "others" in order to reinforce what they are doing. But similarly, the "bad guys" are doing the same. So neither side is actually "cheating" or "evil" or "doing it wrong". They are just regular people competing in a game against one another.
i've been on both sides on many such conflicts in many such games. In the end it's just a motivational tool. What one side thinks is prat of the other's low down chaety behavior is nothing more than how they play the game. And in turn, something you do in game may be viewed and "cheating" by someone else as they don't understand your tactic or behavior also.
A lot of this is similar to the Fundamental Attribution Error as detailed here in this link:
http://lifehacker.com/5946530/fix-the-machine-not-the-person#13488550235563&
It boils down to blaming people for stuff that they didn't do on purpose, but we assume they did:
Quote:This was an extreme case, but we make the same mistake all the time. We see a sloppily-parked car and we think "what a terrible driver," not "he must have been in a real hurry." Someone keeps bumping into you at a concert and you think "what a jerk," not "poor guy, people must keep bumping into him." A policeman beats up a protestor and we think "what an awful person," not "what terrible training." The mistake is so common that in 1977 Lee Ross decided to name it the "fundamental attribution error": we attribute people's behavior to their personality, not their situation. |
Aria Gomes
Death by Disassociation Zero-Day
186
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Posted - 2013.12.09 17:29:00 -
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8213 wrote:I get accused about once a day. And you'll always get accused by someone who scored less than you. Also, I know plenty of AE boys that simply cheat.
But usually it's not cheating that people are really trying to accuse you of. Its the game f*cking up and f*cking over the guy on the other end of the connection. Best connection ALWAYS wins in FPS, no matter what. So when people accuse you of cheating, it's not that you were so good they were frustrated at you, they were mad at the game's bullsh*t and took it out on you.
99% of the rage that happens in this game is CCP's fault, and they deserve it. This game is a failure and everyone knows it has a finite life cycle. We're just riding the wave until it breaks on the shore.
But today I got(we) got accused of using a spawn glitch because we "game out of nowhere" the entire game. I don't know if there is a "spawn glitch" in Skirmish, but we weren't using any glitches. And I don't think the guy was referring to putting uplinks in Null Cannons (which need to be fixed CCP), besides we don't do that anyways. Our corp has the best Logi core in the game, simple fact. We come from everywhere and anywhere because they know how to put their uplinks out to be most effective.
They're fixing it for 1.7 supposedly. & you killed me a bunch yesterday in Faction War. Haha good game though. |
richiesutie 2
The Rainbow Effect
538
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Posted - 2013.12.09 17:38:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:24/7
Many people consider using your brain cheating.
Believe it or not I actually got hate mail for USING COVER.
got called a no skilled noob. BAHAAHA, this is why I rapeface in pub matches, that kind of stupidity right there.
I got called a noob after destroying a guys falchion with a gunlogi and recalling it then going infantry only to find shortly after that the tanker pulled out a madrugar. To use his repair bug to win.
compilation of Patch/build notes
Check it out! :)
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Nirwanda Vaughns
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
237
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Posted - 2013.12.09 17:52:00 -
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I've had the odd message about me hacking for more speed because my gal proto logi speed fit can run past scouts. i have 2 proto cardiacs and 3 proto kincats on it to give me 9.25ms sprint speed and almost 600 stamina. it has 4 different uplinks on it and more base hp than a scout suit so its a good setup suit for beginning the match. generally by time it takes a heavy to deploy, call in LAV and drive to point i can have a proto uplink down he could have spawned on.
other than that i've being going out of my way to get hate mail recently. i've been running full on proto with officer wepaons and truly pub stomping yet cant draw any hate mail at all whole week of it and nothing so i've just gone back to my normal fits lol |
Veka Kari
NECROM0NGERS Covert Intervention
14
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Posted - 2013.12.09 20:35:00 -
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Michael Epic wrote: What the French - Charges: In a match Saturday night, one player dropped 7 orbitals in one match. It requires 2500 points to get an orbital. That's 17,500 war points to power 7 orbitals. We sat back and counted them while the blueberries got murdered. Upon the ending of the match, the player his squad only has 10,573 warpoints between the 6 of them. That means each one had around 1700 and change.
Also, this player was able to stand in one spot and kill anything that got close to him. He magically deflected a forge gun attack, 2 tank missle attacks, a remote explosive charge and at least 4 of us (The Neutral Zone) opening fire on him in CQC and he killed us all before he took a bit of damage.
On the scoreboard? 44/0. I don't know how that is possible....but he wasn't taking any damage. I suspect fowl play because the math and logic of that just doesn't add up. I see that crap all the time with "What the French" as a corp. Any time we enter a match with them, its glitchy as hell and raspberries that aren't even part of What the French are lagged to hell and back. You will start to shoot them and by the time you circle around them and kill them, they're still shooting you in the doorway where you were like 3-5 seconds ago. -
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That's the only time I run into anyone who seems like they are cheating. Often times I'm on...mostly at night and you can see the trends. On Wednesday, its hell to play the game because all of the cheaters are out in full force getting their BONUS SP. By Saturday they have all their SP and they're gone. Sunday - Tuesday is the time to play.
We always have matches pretty evenly matched and we see ZERO evidence of cheating until we run into ANY of the members from those 3 groups. Even if the match has ONE player from there...the matches go nuts. It never fails.
Their players disappear and reappear like 10 feet away and all kinds of stuff. Some of them are able to stand totally still and there's a new trick where they can hide INSIDE the null cannons and when you try to hack it, they blow you up with remote explosives. They drop nano's, droplinks and remote explosives in there so you can't hack it. Flux grenades, normal grenades, remote explosives and orbitals don't kill them.
Everytime What The French, Synergy Gaming or WarRavens are in a match....that stuff happens. So yeah...I never message them and accuse them because I know it and they know it.
I would first like to explain to you that gaining over 2000 WP per match is not impossible, in fact as a logi I am expected to break 1500 every match. If you can break 2k WP then that is a testament to your skill and not evidence of cheating. Personally I have experience in playing with What the French, both as enemies and allies (they are allies with Necr0). I have found that they do what they do because they are very skilled, not because of cheating. I would hope that you take this information and try to prove your statement before making a false claim.
The higher skilled players of Necr0 can achieve this as well, and we do not cheat, we play like everyone else plays, this is why I can confirm that What the French are very skilled, in fact subtlety more skilled than we are (not to say that we are worse, but we are getting there.)
MUST READ (All Suits): The Logi Code. You depend on it.
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Lady MDK
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
49
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Posted - 2013.12.09 20:59:00 -
[56] - Quote
Never - I suck that much
Anyone getting annoyed by reading of the above post should consider the following.
I don't care so neither should you :)
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KIRSTY j
The Walking Targets
19
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Posted - 2013.12.09 21:01:00 -
[57] - Quote
Michael Epic wrote:Honestly? There is a lot of lag switching and modded controller users out there.
Some people even using modded keyboard and mouse and I've begun to notice the trends of cheating.
So far in my estimation (being on both winning sides and losing sides) there are 3 specific corporations who everytime I encounter, I see lag glitches and proof of modded controllers.
What the French - Charges: In a match Saturday night, one player dropped 7 orbitals in one match. It requires 2500 points to get an orbital. That's 17,500 war points to power 7 orbitals. We sat back and counted them while the blueberries got murdered. Upon the ending of the match, the player his squad only has 10,573 warpoints between the 6 of them. That means each one had around 1700 and change.
Also, this player was able to stand in one spot and kill anything that got close to him. He magically deflected a forge gun attack, 2 tank missle attacks, a remote explosive charge and at least 4 of us (The Neutral Zone) opening fire on him in CQC and he killed us all before he took a bit of damage.
On the scoreboard? 44/0. I don't know how that is possible....but he wasn't taking any damage. I suspect fowl play because the math and logic of that just doesn't add up. I see that crap all the time with "What the French" as a corp. Any time we enter a match with them, its glitchy as hell and raspberries that aren't even part of What the French are lagged to hell and back. You will start to shoot them and by the time you circle around them and kill them, they're still shooting you in the doorway where you were like 3-5 seconds ago. -
Synergy Gaming - Same problems as what the french, just not as extreme
WarRavens - Same problems as what the french, just not as extreme -
That's the only time I run into anyone who seems like they are cheating. Often times I'm on...mostly at night and you can see the trends. On Wednesday, its hell to play the game because all of the cheaters are out in full force getting their BONUS SP. By Saturday they have all their SP and they're gone. Sunday - Tuesday is the time to play.
We always have matches pretty evenly matched and we see ZERO evidence of cheating until we run into ANY of the members from those 3 groups. Even if the match has ONE player from there...the matches go nuts. It never fails.
Their players disappear and reappear like 10 feet away and all kinds of stuff. Some of them are able to stand totally still and there's a new trick where they can hide INSIDE the null cannons and when you try to hack it, they blow you up with remote explosives. They drop nano's, droplinks and remote explosives in there so you can't hack it. Flux grenades, normal grenades, remote explosives and orbitals don't kill them.
Everytime What The French, Synergy Gaming or WarRavens are in a match....that stuff happens. So yeah...I never message them and accuse them because I know it and they know it. yeah always the same players/corps. could add a few more names |
Rogue Saint
Science For Death
605
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Posted - 2013.12.09 21:11:00 -
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KIRSTY j wrote:yeah always the same players/corps. could add a few more names
Yeah, that KIRSTY j is suspect, she seems to always be cheating when running with SCFD squads
GôêGÆ+GÆ+GƦ - Bringing the dakka
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T'orq
DUST University Ivy League
12
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Posted - 2013.12.09 21:47:00 -
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No I have not cheated I have gotten hate mail saying, get a real gun, for I guess I killed him with a mass driver, and no I was not on top of a building. I got three message from that same guy from one match. LOL. That is the only hate mail I have ever gotten. |
Michael Epic
The Neutral Zone
161
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Posted - 2013.12.09 22:51:00 -
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Veka Kari wrote:I would first like to explain to you that gaining over 2000 WP per match is not impossible, in fact as a logi I am expected to break 1500 every match. If you can break 2k WP then that is a testament to your skill and not evidence of cheating. Personally I have experience in playing with What the French, both as enemies and allies (they are allies with Necr0). I have found that they do what they do because they are very skilled, not because of cheating. I would hope that you take this information and try to prove your statement before making a false claim.
The higher skilled players of Necr0 can achieve this as well, and we do not cheat, we play like everyone else plays, this is why I can confirm that What the French are very skilled, in fact subtlety more skilled than we are (not to say that we are worse, but we are getting there.
I know that they can get 2000+ wp per match...can you f!cking read bro? 7 orbitals. 10,000 and change during the match. 7 orbitals requires much more than that.
You picked a point that I clearly made, circle jerked it into fitting your retort and then told me to get information proving my false claim...are you daft? Seriously? Are you even there? Is there a real life human being with the ability to read and understand lurking behind that computer screen somewhere?
Would you like me to mail you a f!cking calculator? I'll do it. I got one sitting right here....I'll happily mail it to you. I mean seriously dude....I retell MY experiences with those 3 corps and your defendo kock-meat sammich goes into overdrive?
*shakes head* epic fail dude....what a jackass you are. |
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