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Django Quik
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Posted - 2013.12.08 21:30:00 -
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Nah, SP is a terrible measure because you earn it passively. If someone totally new signs up but doesn't play for a few weeks or even months, suddenly they're thrust into higher tier stuff than they're ready for.
WP is the best measure of how much you have done in the game because you earn it for doing useful things, not just for being in the match or just having a character created.
Also, it's still the weekend, so I wouldn't go expecting a dev response today, if at all - they don't tend to reply to threads like this.
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Django Quik
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Posted - 2013.12.08 21:43:00 -
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Soulja Ghostface wrote:Django Quik wrote:Nah, SP is a terrible measure because you earn it passively. If someone totally new signs up but doesn't play for a few weeks or even months, suddenly they're thrust into higher tier stuff than they're ready for.
WP is the best measure of how much you have done in the game because you earn it for doing useful things, not just for being in the match or just having a character created.
Also, it's still the weekend, so I wouldn't go expecting a dev response today, if at all - they don't tend to reply to threads like this. people usually dont play dust again for months because of the academy being over so fast. So with this less people will put the game down for months because they will not be stomped (as frequently) this prevents (example): Ancient Exiles from raiding academy
Not really - they'll just make new alts like many do already to raid the academy. No measures will prevent that.
I agree that the academy should last longer but WP is already a good measure - the number just needs to be higher.
Also, tiered game modes will only divide the playerbase and it's already too small for decent matchmaking as it is.
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Django Quik
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Posted - 2013.12.08 21:56:00 -
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Soulja Ghostface wrote:I knew you would say that.
Pretend i am in a big name corp.
I make an alt
i play a match with other new dudes. Now i will kill lots with my medic/frontline.
but there will be people who are about to graduate and will have a sp advantage.
an advantage that the intended stomper is not used to fighting against
Nah, the SP advantage will be so negligible at that level - most proper newbies will have it all over the place and the stompers will have it focused exactly where they want; also, a million or even 5 million SP is nothing compared to people who have played for 6-12 months or more already and know exactly what they're doing, all the best OP tactics and gear. That's why you see people still getting amazing scores even though they're only using MLT BPOs and whatnot. Yes, the passive skill buffs help but the gear still isn't as good as the proto stuff with the same buffs.
WP let's you progress through the academy at your own pace, not the pace of the passive SP you've been accruing without even doing anything.
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Django Quik
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Posted - 2013.12.08 22:03:00 -
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Soulja Ghostface wrote:do you know how long it takes to get 500k sp from passive (VERY LONG)
21 days. That's 3 weeks. Considering this is a free to play game, I'd be willing to bet a lot of people join play one or two games, get 500wp total because they have no idea what's going on and leave. I remember that's what I did way back when I started in 2012. After a few weeks I decided to give it another shot and stayed ever since - I reckon this is a common occurrence.
Seriously, there's no drawbacks to using WP instead.
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Django Quik
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Posted - 2013.12.09 09:33:00 -
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You still haven't answered why WP is not a perfectly round measure. It's the only thing that accurately shows how much you are actually capable of in the game. SP is simply a measure of gear, not ability nor experience.
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Django Quik
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Posted - 2013.12.10 09:13:00 -
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Zyrus Amalomyn wrote:This idea makes too much sense, CCP shanghai will never do it.
They don't need to do it because they already use WP, which is a far better measure of a player's ability and experience; they just need to raise the cap and improve/expand the tutorials.
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