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Zekain K Expert Intervention Caldari State 752	Posted - 2013.12.08 05:02:00 - [1] - Quote Better switch to them assault rifle versions. Maybe you`ll be able to hit something then. *CALDARI MASTER RACE*
Argent Mordred DUST University Ivy League 45	Posted - 2013.12.08 05:14:00 - [2] - Quote You know this how?
KING CHECKMATE AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS 2831	Posted - 2013.12.08 05:15:00 - [3] - Quote Zekain K wrote: Better switch to them assault rifle versions. Maybe you`ll be able to hit something then. Im actually Pretty beast with the BRC AR. I have it modded in a Scout m/1 series and a Logi a/1 series with 2cx dam mods. Head shot beast WELCOME! TO ARMORED MED514 : https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1565076#post1565076
Zekain K Expert Intervention Caldari State 752	Posted - 2013.12.08 05:15:00 - [4] - Quote Argent Mordred wrote: You know this how? they`re both burst weapons, and no one uses the current one because it`s too hard. *CALDARI MASTER RACE*
Ghost Kaisar THIRD EARTH INCORPORATED 1004	Posted - 2013.12.08 06:38:00 - [5] - Quote Zekain K wrote: Argent Mordred wrote: You know this how? they`re both burst weapons, and no one uses the current one because it`s too hard. Not hard, just requires aim and a good feel for the ROF. Been practicing with the Burst for the last month. My body is ready. "All war is deception." "He who knows when he can fight and when he cannot, will be victorious" -Sun Tzu
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 8469	Posted - 2013.12.08 06:40:00 - [6] - Quote Burst rifle = mouse weapon Win ISK / Vids / O7
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 1443	Posted - 2013.12.08 07:00:00 - [7] - Quote my general issue with the current burst is that it costs more then the current AR, which has a higher dps. the CR stats are better so should perform better, and will result in better performance. I love the burst in teh current build, it just under performs based on stats.
Son-Of A-Gun 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 564	Posted - 2013.12.08 07:24:00 - [8] - Quote Zekain K wrote: Argent Mordred wrote: You know this how? they`re both burst weapons, and no one uses the current one because it`s too hard. I use the current one, and I'd like to think I do quite well with it. I'll be proto with all the toppings with the combat rifle on Dec 10. I'll see you on the field. o7 {:)}{3GÇó>
Cosgar ParagonX 8482	Posted - 2013.12.08 07:33:00 - [9] - Quote The burst rifle is actually pretty good. It's just that the standard AR completely outshines it since the number of shots per burst doesn't scale up anymore. I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
DeadlyAztec11 2573	Posted - 2013.12.08 07:50:00 - [10] - Quote I love the Burst AR but the full auto AR makes it redundant and impractical. Madness is the emergency exit. You can just step outside, and close the door on all those dreadful things that happened.

Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 2895	Posted - 2013.12.08 07:53:00 - [11] - Quote I don't care! I LOVE IT Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 2 STB-Infantry (Demolition)
Baal Omniscient L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 800	Posted - 2013.12.08 08:58:00 - [12] - Quote Some Thoughts On BR's From A BR User, Mk Suit Runner & A Future CR & ACR User Been using it since the hit detection for it got fixed right before 1.6 hit. I used to use it exclusively in Chromosome, back when it was a BEAST, but now that the HD is fixed it's fairly good. The GK-13 is pretty crappy though without damage mods to make up for it's lower RoF. The Allotek has a much higher RoF than the GK-13 (meaning the bullets in the burst fire closer together, not that the bursts fire off faster) and that simple stat alone would be fine for a prototype burst AR, but it also has higher damage as well. As far as skill goes, the GK-13 is much harder to use because you have to track much better with it. The Allotek requires much less tracking. Yes, the RoF on the Allotek makes it a wonderful weapon, however it's RoF is only in the 800-900 range (can't access Dust atm & I don't recall the exact stat). The CR's RoF is 1200, meaning all of the bullets in a burst will be hitting almost all at once. So I can peak out in my Mk.0 and fire a quick burst at you and duck back into cover, and while you may tag me with a round while I'm moving in and out of cover, I just nailed you with 3 almost all at once. The CR will therefore be much less of a tracking weapon and be more of a "sucker punch" weapon. Hit you with 3 rounds at once, and duck. The ACR on the other hand will be beastly however. 1200 RPM & 68 round clip means we can dump a clip almost 2x as fast as an AR, then get the hell outta dodge while you are still trying to finish unloading your clip at us. MINMATAR ARISE! DEMAND that our race's suits be FIXED!!! *WE WILL NOT GIVE IN!!* MATARI PRIDE!! FIX TTK!!
Chief-Shotty WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men. 63	Posted - 2013.12.08 09:38:00 - [13] - Quote Dont forget that charge to fire. Bet thats gonna catch lots of players off guard when they are caught by surprise and nothing for 1/4 of a second. That gun is not for cqc, but Dec 10 will be the deciding factor. Oh and yes with that ridiculous optimum range im willing to bet its gonna be the FOTM and nerf so hard it will be a water gun at best. Combat Rifle is go to gun because well...its for combat. Still for some reason im hoping for star wars gun sounds whenever you fire the Rail Rifle PewPewPew!! Trust in the Rust! 7-Time Matar Mass Driver World Champion
Baal Omniscient L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 800	Posted - 2013.12.08 09:57:00 - [14] - Quote Chief-Shotty wrote: Dont forget that charge to fire. Bet thats gonna catch lots of players off guard when they are caught by surprise and nothing for 1/4 of a second. That gun is not for cqc, but Dec 10 will be the deciding factor. Oh and yes with that ridiculous optimum range im willing to bet its gonna be the FOTM and nerf so hard it will be a water gun at best. Combat Rifle is go to gun because well...its for combat. Still for some reason im hoping for star wars gun sounds whenever you fire the Rail Rifle PewPewPew!! The rail has the charge, not the CR. You worded that weird, just wanted to ensure you had that straight. MINMATAR ARISE! DEMAND that our race's suits be FIXED!!! *WE WILL NOT GIVE IN!!* MATARI PRIDE!! FIX TTK!!
The dark cloud The Rainbow Effect 1926	Posted - 2013.12.08 10:56:00 - [15] - Quote If you look at the stats the burst combat rifle has more range, more damage and a higher rate of fire compared to the allotek burst variant. Which means people who where good with burst rifles will even be more deadly with them. And i use it quite alot cause of the ACOG and very good accuracy. I shall show you a world, a world which you cant imagine, a world full off butthurt n00bs at the other end of my gun
Vyzion Eyri The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 2187	Posted - 2013.12.08 11:02:00 - [16] - Quote I wanted it because I wanted a weapon which could chip down enemies from a distance, that isn't effective up close, so I can switch to my repair tool with no regrets as to losing out on firepower in CQC situations. "When nothing is going your way, go out of your way to do nothing."
Broonfondle Majikthies Bannana Boat Corp Relentless Heroes Alliance 557	Posted - 2013.12.08 12:48:00 - [17] - Quote The burst rifle requires a more 'stand off-ish' approach to the gun game. Its not a run and and blast peeps like the standard AR. The burst excels in longer ranged, dense terrain environments where you and your opponent are exchanging shots from cover. Every time they break cover to engage you can apply shots faster and deal more damage in the short window when they're exposed. I would also recommend a high level of skill in sharpshooter to help CQC situations since it struggles with hipfire. And the ADS zoom doesn't help at the shorter ranges. I'm psyched, I love the Burst AR but wa always lacking in damage and a little range - the CR should solve that problem "...where Bylothgar the Ill-postured was made King of the People With No Name But Decent Footwear"
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 1592	Posted - 2013.12.08 13:46:00 - [18] - Quote Zekain K wrote: Argent Mordred wrote: You know this how? they`re both burst weapons, and no one uses the current one because it`s too hard. I use it with damage mods, its a beast, tac for long range, burst for mid range/elevated firefights and breach or regular for cqc, use 3 complex damage mods with either of these. Level 1 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
DeadlyAztec11 2576	Posted - 2013.12.08 14:31:00 - [19] - Quote I want the Allotek burst so bad! Madness is the emergency exit. You can just step outside, and close the door on all those dreadful things that happened.
Nestil Seraphim Auxiliaries 94	Posted - 2013.12.08 15:34:00 - [20] - Quote Zekain K wrote: Argent Mordred wrote: You know this how? they`re both burst weapons, and no one uses the current one because it`s too hard. kaos uses it sometimes and i've seen him shooting heavies out of their llavs so yeah it's hard to use, but the good players will do good with it and the scrubs will whine. this is true for most weapons except the AR ( a scrub weapon in general, no skill needed).. we'll see if the new weapons will rock or suck...or even become the new FOTM...

TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR F.T.U. IMMORTAL REGIME 761	Posted - 2013.12.08 15:36:00 - [21] - Quote well i'll be switching over to rail rifle so... Tell me, how exactly DOES a biscuit gain Valor?
Argent Mordred DUST University Ivy League 45	Posted - 2013.12.09 02:48:00 - [22] - Quote I wasn't sure if you meant breach rifle or burst rifle, however, the burst rifle's problem, when I tried using it, wasn't the rate of fire or hitting anything. It was that the low damage and therefore low dps. The burst rifle fires slower than the automatic assault rifle and the adv burst ar has less damage per shot than a fully auto militia ar, despite the fact that it fires slower. From what I could tell it also had a magnified sight but the rifle had pretty much the same fall off. So I could hit people with multiple bursts, but I couldn't do as much damage as them or out-range them to win. I basically just got assists and died. Maybe it was me but I do think the combat rifle might be different as it will have more damage (33.6 for the adv) than the Gallente knockoff and hopefully be better at range.


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