In the Factional Warfare Devblog, it is stated that:



But in addition to the above:




The question is, if a team has an EVE pilot stationed above the planet, will they be getting EVE Orbitals every 3 minutes in addition to the Warbarge strikes earned every 2500 WP?

If so, then this basically breaks PC. I'm all for increasing the link between EVE and Dust, but the fact that as Dust mercs we have nothing to offer EVE pilots means that any corporation that doesn't already have ties with EVE is at an incredible disadvantage. It would be one thing to be able to lend support as ground troops if a planet or space station was invaded, but without anything to give in return, why are EVE pilots who have no affiliation with us Dust mercenaries already going to risk their ISK and spend time helping us?

I don't understand your reply.

It's clearly stated above that EVE strikes and Warbarge strikes will both work in PC matches. The question is, how?

Eve Pilots enrolled in faction warfare are technically in the corp you decided to fight for's alliance (reason why they made 4 new militia armies)

The same system allows eve pilots of the same alliance to drop orbitals for any of their own corp battles.

Eve pilot strikes are earned separately from the wp fueled war barge one thus a pilot calling in a warbarge strike can only do so on war points, while one calling in an eve strike can only do so every 3 minutes the pilot remains on station.

Maybe I didn't explain it well enough. I'm talking about when 1.7 hits.

Right now, a competitive PC match vs two competent teams will last maybe 15 or so minutes and generate, on average, 5-7 strikes for the team.

In 1.6 they can either choose a Warbarge strike, or an EVE orbital--not both.

What happens in 1.7 when EVE orbitals are earned every 3 minutes, but Dust mercenaries are earning their own Warbarge strikes every 2500 WP? You're talking about five more strikes per PC match of 15 minutes or longer for doing nothing. That's insanely overpowered.

Clearly there's a disconnect here, because that's exactly my point. They're independent. At first I thought maybe a team needed 2500 WP and an EVE player needed to wait 3 minutes to get one strike, but no where does it say that, so I can only assume that EVE strikes will be available every 3 minutes and Warbarge strikes will be available every 2500 WP. Let's use an example:

0:00 match starts, EVE Player A for Corp Z above disttrict

3:00 EVE orbital available for Corp Z, called and dropped

3:30 Corp Z, Squad 1 earns first 2500 WP

Now the question is, do they get a chance at a Warbarge strike (not EVE strikes) at 3:30? Yes or no?

Well then hopefully you see my problem here. A team is getting five more strikes a game, almost double the number now, for doing nothing and there's no realistic way for a corporation that isn't already affiliated with EVE mercenaries to bridge this gap. Not to mention there's no way for Dust mercs on the ground to even the odds by firing back and driving off/killing the ship above them.

Which is something I've already explained in this thread. There's no reasonable way to do that with the resources we have available.



The disadvantage up to this point could be overcome because it wasn't so powerful. Getting 5 more orbital strikes, all of which are going to be devastating, is not something that can be overcome unless you're just way better than the opposing team.

Also your analogy is flawed. It isn't like having no logis or forge gunner because you could reasonably find a way to get those if you wanted them. Plus you can win without either, though it would be more difficult. Trying to find an EVE player to risk his ship for Dust mercs he has no tie with for every PC battle for no reward isn't at all realistic. And trying to win without those five additional strikes against a good team? Forget it.