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Karl Marx II
Holdfast Syndicate
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.12.05 09:22:00 -
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Caldari Medium Frame C-1
Complex Shield Extender
Complex Light Damage Modifier
Enhanced Armor Plates
Basic Shield Regulator
Assault Rifle
Submachine Gun
Locus Grenades
Compact Nanohive
ISK 23,285
191/197 CPU
37/39 PG
335 Shield
271 Armour
AR Damage 43.01
Shield Delay 4.57
Shield Depleted Delay 7.15
Movement Speed 4.85
Sprint Speed 6.79
Most core skills need to be maxed for the stats above and could be made better with Shield Regulation 5 Caldari Assault Suits 5 (This is only a basic medium suit and you have access to this with a logistics suit because you need the Caldari medium suits skill at lvl 3 to unlock the STD Caldari Logistics suit which gives you access to ADV level basic Medium Caldari frames) The reason the STD AR damage is so high is due to AR Proficiency being maxed but even at lvl 3 it is 40.3 !
This is my favourite fitting .. not because It's OP or anything like that but because it is extremely cost efficient without having to use BPO's
I'm interested to see what fits other players have using STD suits and no BPO's which are as cost effective or more cost effective than this suit
PS The question in the title of this thread is rhetorical so please keep the replies relevant to your STD Suit cost effective loadouts and feedback on this loadout and other peples loadouts and not about the protostomping discussion
PS PS No BPO's allowed in your fittings
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Keri Starlight
0uter.Heaven
Proficiency V.
1753
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Posted - 2013.12.05 11:52:00 -
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Hi.
Yes, the topic title is a bit provocating, lol. But it's fine. I generally think that everyone should feel free to use anything they feel like using, being STD, ADV or PRO, it's a game. I know you think I run proto 24/7, but I just run whatever I'm in the mood for and I don't have any problem with anyone running better gear than me.
I find that ADV suits are the most cost-efficient, but a good STD fitting can be awesome, yes. Unfortunately, this doesn't apply to all classes, as I can't really make a decent Scout fitting which is not Proto.
I generally choose ADV over STD because I use the Tactical AR, which is only available starting from ADV tier. The GLU-5 sucks away a lot of resources and I need an ADV suit to fit it.
I still have to do the matchs about the Rail Rifle, because that's what I'm probably going to use and the PG cost is extremely high even at STD level. I'm not sure if I'll be able to run a Rail Rifle on a STD suit.
That said, ADV gear is my favorite. I rarely run STD when I can run ADV. With my secondary character I run STD all the time, but I will eventually move to ADV when I'm going to have enough SP.
With ADV suits I can make cheap and complete loadouts.
Regards.
"I load my gun with love instead of bullets"
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Sleepy Shadow
L.O.T.I.S.
Public Disorder.
87
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Posted - 2013.12.05 12:02:00 -
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Karl Marx II wrote:PS The question in the title of this thread is rhetorical so please keep the replies relevant to your STD Suit cost effective loadouts and feedback on this loadout and other peples loadouts and not about the protostomping discussion
Your title and content have nothing to do with each other. The answer to question GÇ£Why use Proto in public games when you can use STD?GÇ¥ is vastly different than if you had asked GÇ£WhatGÇÖs your cost efficient STD suit?GÇ¥ or GÇ£What is your money making suit?GÇ¥ maybe even GÇ£whatGÇÖs the best possible STD fit you can come up with?GÇ¥
Just saying.
Generally I only run ADV fits, price ~40K. I make money with those, no need to downgrade as far as IGÇÖm concerned. Racial STD suits are very good though, I admit. The difference to ADV is pretty minimal.
The only STD fit I have is a suit named "spare parts". I hate clutter and since I cannot sell my useless items I have fitted them in a suit which I never restock. If I run out of items I replace them with other useless items from my inventory. It's the cheapes suit I have, because I never restock any items. Pure profit.
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Corbina Ninja
Maphia Clan Corporation
451
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Posted - 2013.12.05 12:07:00 -
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Why using STD when you can use MLZ?
My favorite MLZ fit
Gallente Medium Militia
3x Enhanced Armor Plates
Assault Rifle
Submachine Gun
Core Locus Grenades
Compact Nanohive
Shield 150
Armor 650
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Benjamin Ciscko
The Generals
General Tso's Alliance
274
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Posted - 2013.12.05 12:13:00 -
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STD minmatar Logistics
2x basic shield extenders
2x basic armor plates
1x locus grenade
1xAsault Rifle
militia nanite injector
stable uplink
militia rep tool
8,090ISK
I could fit a gek and if I used more STD instead of militia and had more core skills I could probably get the plates to enhanced as well the shield extenders but I like a dirt cheap fit.
Vehicle rework scheduled for 1.5.... 1.6.... 1.7........
Tanker/Logi
Wait until AV feels the pain vehicle users have
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xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn
1198
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Posted - 2013.12.05 12:14:00 -
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Corbina Ninja wrote:Why using STD when you can use MLZ?
My favorite MLZ fit
Gallente Medium Militia
3x Enhanced Armor Plates
Assault Rifle
Submachine Gun
Core Locus Grenades
Compact Nanohive
Shield 150
Armor 650
Corbina Ninja wrote:
3x Enhanced Armor Plates
Assault Rifle
Submachine Gun
Core Locus Grenades
Corbina Ninja wrote:
Core Locus Grenades
Corbina Ninja wrote:
Core Locus Grenades
Corbina Ninja wrote:
Core Locus Grenades
*runs away crying*
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Elmo Love U
514 Mile High Club
17
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Posted - 2013.12.05 16:39:00 -
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STD gear is for babies. The big boys run with the big guns. No risk, no gain!
Show me the money!
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Viktor Hadah Jr
Critical-Impact
1354
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Posted - 2013.12.05 16:49:00 -
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You mention ISK in your post but when your rich and run proto that is generally not that big of a concern.
Amarr
Dual tanking is a sin
Listen when playing dust for 25% KDR improvement
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