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Atiim
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Posted - 2013.12.04 22:05:00 -
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What are your thoughts on Swarm Launchers with dumbfire?
What would your reaction be if they were given dumbfire back?
Should the receive dumbfire abilities again?
If no, then why not?
If yes, then why so?
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Sinboto Simmons
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Posted - 2013.12.04 22:06:00 -
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Atiim wrote:What are your thoughts on Swarm Launchers with dumbfire?
What would your reaction be if they were given dumbfire back?
Should the receive dumbfire abilities again?
If no, then why not?
If yes, then why so?
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I'd most likely faint.
No, no, hell no.
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Xocoyol Zaraoul
Superior Genetics
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Posted - 2013.12.04 22:07:00 -
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Are you really asking the community about making a 4-6 explosive shot splash weapon dumbfire again, and if it is a good or bad idea?
I take it you've run out of ideas for new threads.
HEY EVERYBODY WHAT DO Y'ALL THINK ABOUT MAKING TACs LIKE THEY USED TO BE?!
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Shokhann Echo
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Posted - 2013.12.04 22:07:00 -
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i say yes to dumbfire, then we wouldn't have this bullshit where they do 90* turns in less than 3 seconds.
also it would be funny if infantry got screwed over by another thing that pilots get screwed over by
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TheAmazing FlyingPig
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Posted - 2013.12.04 22:07:00 -
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No because beta.
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Luna Angelo
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Posted - 2013.12.04 22:08:00 -
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Make a variant that deals less damage and dumbfires. That would be cool.
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Posted - 2013.12.04 22:09:00 -
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TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:No because beta.
::shudders::
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Kane Fyea
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Posted - 2013.12.04 22:10:00 -
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TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:No because beta.
But really the problem back then was that it had both insane damage and insane splash damage. Now the damage got nerfed by 33% and the splash has been nerfed since beta. |
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Posted - 2013.12.04 22:11:00 -
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Kane Fyea wrote:TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:No because beta. But really the problem back then was that it had both insane damage and insane splash damage. Now the damage got nerfed by 33% and the splash has been nerfed since beta.
The base damage from militia swarms is probably still enough to kill a tanked out heavy in a single volley :/
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Posted - 2013.12.04 22:12:00 -
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There's already too much abuse of explosives now.
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Kane Fyea
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Posted - 2013.12.04 22:12:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:No because beta. But really the problem back then was that it had both insane damage and insane splash damage. Now the damage got nerfed by 33% and the splash has been nerfed since beta. The base damage from militia swarms is probably still enough to kill a tanked out heavy in a single volley :/
That's if all (Or most if using proto) the rockets hit. The splash is pretty damn low on them too now so that's even less of a chance to hit them. Also the swarms have a pretty good space between them so that makes it even harder to hit someone.. |
Xocoyol Zaraoul
Superior Genetics
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Posted - 2013.12.04 22:13:00 -
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Kane Fyea wrote:TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:No because beta. But really the problem back then was that it had both insane damage and insane splash damage. Now the damage got nerfed by 33% and the splash has been nerfed since beta.
Because being bitchslapped by 1320 damage sounds so much better then 1980?
I don't think most of my suits would notice the difference.
Hell even a militia we are talking about 880 damage to a suit.
Splash may be lower, true, but I really don't want to see that much damage coming from a light weapon considering everything will still hit at close ranges, or at least half of the rockets which is still a crapload of damage.
Back in the dumbfire days I still managed to land direct hits consistently.
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Sinboto Simmons
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Posted - 2013.12.04 22:13:00 -
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Kane Fyea wrote:TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:No because beta. But really the problem back then was that it had both insane damage and insane splash damage. Now the damage got nerfed by 33% and the splash has been nerfed since beta.
It still does more then enough damage to one shot a heavy.
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Kane Fyea
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Posted - 2013.12.04 22:16:00 -
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Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:No because beta. But really the problem back then was that it had both insane damage and insane splash damage. Now the damage got nerfed by 33% and the splash has been nerfed since beta. Because being bitchslapped by 1320 damage sounds so much better then 1980? I don't think most of my suits would notice the difference. Hell even a militia we are talking about 880 damage to a suit. Splash may be lower, true, but I really don't want to see that much damage coming from a light weapon considering everything will still hit at close ranges, or at least half of the rockets which is still a crapload of damage. Back in the dumbfire days I still managed to land direct hits consistently.
Yea and the swarms also had a scope which made it easy. Unless you're using this in CQC you won't be connecting a lot of rockets. (Which CCP can limit the range in which you can dumbfire so it cant be used in CQC) |
Kane Fyea
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Posted - 2013.12.04 22:18:00 -
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If you used the swarms back in Closed beta when you could dumbfire them then there was two major differences between them. One being the damage being nerfed by 33% and the second being that the splash damage was nerfed extremely (It use to be like 3-4m now its no more then 1.5m). |
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Posted - 2013.12.04 22:19:00 -
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I don't know how beta was (wasn't here), but from what I've heard from Godin, no.
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Justice Prevails
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Posted - 2013.12.04 22:22:00 -
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Yes. Just make it like av grenades where it can't hurt infantry. It would be better and a more direct hit on a tank, less retreat time. Then we can take the "no skill weapon" and shove it up the tankers' arses.
Great job, team. Head back to the MCC for debriefing and cocktails.
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Kane Fyea
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Posted - 2013.12.04 22:25:00 -
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Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:No because beta. But really the problem back then was that it had both insane damage and insane splash damage. Now the damage got nerfed by 33% and the splash has been nerfed since beta. Because being bitchslapped by 1320 damage sounds so much better then 1980? I don't think most of my suits would notice the difference. Hell even a militia we are talking about 880 damage to a suit. Splash may be lower, true, but I really don't want to see that much damage coming from a light weapon considering everything will still hit at close ranges, or at least half of the rockets which is still a crapload of damage. Back in the dumbfire days I still managed to land direct hits consistently.
Like I said limit the swarms from dumbfiring in CQC (Limit it to like 50m even). |
Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
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Posted - 2013.12.05 00:47:00 -
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Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:Are you really asking the community about making a 4-6 explosive shot splash weapon dumbfire again, and if it is a good or bad idea?
I take it you've run out of ideas for new threads.
HEY EVERYBODY WHAT DO Y'ALL THINK ABOUT MAKING TACs LIKE THEY USED TO BE?!
^ Serious question time.
Ran out of ideas? Far from.
Anyways, I'm not asking for du,bfire, I'm asking what the community's thoughts on dumbfire.
And I'd love for TAC ARs to be like they used to. But I'd also like the option to pay for a Freedom Mass Driver BPO with only 15k AUR or 2mil ISK. I'd also like for an Officer Swarm Launcher.
Along with a whole lot of other things. Most of what I want would be broken as all hell though, so I won't request them. What people want and what people are going to allow are two different things.
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Atiim
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Posted - 2013.12.05 14:16:00 -
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Shokhann Echo wrote:i say yes to dumbfire, then we wouldn't have this bullshit where they do 90* turns in less than 3 seconds.
also it would be funny if infantry got screwed over by another thing that pilots get screwed over by
Why do you hate infantry so much?
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Atiim
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Posted - 2013.12.05 14:17:00 -
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Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:No because beta. But really the problem back then was that it had both insane damage and insane splash damage. Now the damage got nerfed by 33% and the splash has been nerfed since beta. Because being bitchslapped by 1320 damage sounds so much better then 1980? I don't think most of my suits would notice the difference. Hell even a militia we are talking about 880 damage to a suit. Splash may be lower, true, but I really don't want to see that much damage coming from a light weapon considering everything will still hit at close ranges, or at least half of the rockets which is still a crapload of damage. Back in the dumbfire days I still managed to land direct hits consistently.
You do realize that you can still get bitchslapped by a FG right?
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chase rowland
The Enclave Syndicate
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Posted - 2013.12.05 14:45:00 -
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Atiim wrote:What are your thoughts on Swarm Launchers with dumbfire?
What would your reaction be if they were given dumbfire back?
Should the receive dumbfire abilities again?
If no, then why not?
If yes, then why so?
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Posted - 2013.12.05 14:45:00 -
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Justice Prevails wrote:Yes. Just make it like av grenades where it can't hurt infantry. It would be better and a more direct hit on a tank, less retreat time. Then we can take the "no skill weapon" and shove it up the tankers' arses.
Ummm.... AV grenades CAN hurt infantry.... You've obviously not run many LAV's if you've never had an AV grenade kill you out of the seat without scratching the LAV
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Atiim
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Posted - 2013.12.05 14:51:00 -
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chase rowland wrote:Atiim wrote:What are your thoughts on Swarm Launchers with dumbfire?
What would your reaction be if they were given dumbfire back?
Should the receive dumbfire abilities again?
If no, then why not?
If yes, then why so?
-HAND dude really? do you have a brain?
I asked what the communities thoughts on Dumbfire SLs, and why they should or shouldn't receive them again
This survey has nothing to do with my thoughts or desires, but is a "speculation" of sorts.
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Posted - 2013.12.05 14:57:00 -
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Atiim wrote:What are your thoughts on Swarm Launchers with dumbfire?
What would your reaction be if they were given dumbfire back?
Should the receive dumbfire abilities again?
If no, then why not?
If yes, then why so?
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They should have been dumbfire but now we have a dumbfire weapon GÇö the plasma cannon. If there is any weapon that I think should be a two shot tank killer it is the plasma cannon. Therefore, CCP should move the PC and the SL to heavy weapon status making those the Gallente hvy weapon and the Caldari hvy missile weapon respectively.
The PC is the closest thing to an RPG style weapon. The SL is too much a magic weapon with the power and mechanics of four different real world weapons. If the damage and range will be nerfed then I guess that pretty much takes care of SL being too good a weapon.
The FG should have a dispersion radius so that it does big damage up close but not so much at range. The PC should rightfully be the most powerful because it is dumbfire, has trajectory and is one shot reload.
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Posted - 2013.12.05 15:03:00 -
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I never found it a problem really...and yes I played in the closed beta.
The thing is, I never played back when it was super OP. I do specifically remember when they removed the dumbfire and all of the noobs would run up to me trying to fire it while I killed them. That was pretty funny.
I don't think we need more explosions in this game though.
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