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Karl Marx II Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 284	Posted - 2013.12.04 20:42:00 - [1] - Quote 'A few idiots on the forums asked for shield stacking penalty so you gave it to them? what about 830 armour on a proto gallente logi? Shields are not the problem, armour is.' Crotchgrab 360 This point is spot on you seem to listen to a few idiots and ignore the real problems this game has .. TTK is too low .. you do nothing .. Armor tanking is far superior to shield tanking .. You nerf shield extenders AR and ScR are ridiculously OP compared to every other weapon .. you add 2 new rifles and increase the range of both the AR and ScR .. Forge Gun is the most OP AV weapon in the game so you nerf swarm launchers into the ground and change nothing about the forge guns You know what CCP I said this was a make or break patch and you've failed miserably .. No wonder you kept the patch notes away from the playerbase for so long it's abysmal My Theme
Jason Pearson 3187	Posted - 2013.12.04 20:43:00 - [2] - Quote Vehicle Patch, soz. King of the Forums // Vehicle Specialist for Hire Laugh at the idiots crying about four BPOs being removed erryday, lul
Karl Marx II Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 284	Posted - 2013.12.04 20:45:00 - [3] - Quote Jason Pearson wrote: Vehicle Patch, soz. As a vehicle user are you happy to have slots removed, your SP sink increased and yet .. no nerf to forge guns ?? My Theme
Ripley Riley 123	Posted - 2013.12.04 20:45:00 - [4] - Quote Karl Marx II wrote: Forge Gun is the most OP AV weapon in the game so you nerf swarm launchers into the ground and change nothing about the forge guns I appreciate a good nonsensical rant as much as the next guy, but forge guns are changing. The numbers just didn't make it to the patch notes. Logibro should be posting them soon. No paid respecs without massive SP penalties.
R'adeh Hunt The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 500	Posted - 2013.12.04 20:47:00 - [5] - Quote Well, the shield nerf is a good way to nerf proto stomping a bit...since it'll mostly affect people who stack 4-5 shield extenders. Agreed that armor is superior atm, especially since shield users can't make up for it by adding speed. Ever since they introduced this dreadful aim assist, speed tanking is pretty much pointless. I don't agree with your AR/SCR OP comment though. I'm pretty happy with the patch notes overall.
Aikuchi Tomaru Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1143	Posted - 2013.12.04 20:47:00 - [6] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Karl Marx II wrote: Forge Gun is the most OP AV weapon in the game so you nerf swarm launchers into the ground and change nothing about the forge guns I appreciate a good nonsensical rant as much as the next guy, but Forge Guns are changing. The numbers just didn't make it to the patch notes. Logibro should be posting them soon. Also AR and ScR will be changed a bit.
Roy Ventus Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance 629	Posted - 2013.12.04 20:47:00 - [7] - Quote Karl Marx II wrote: 'A few idiots on the forums asked for shield stacking penalty so you gave it to them? what about 830 armour on a proto gallente logi? Shields are not the problem, armour is.' Crotchgrab 360 This point is spot on you seem to listen to a few idiots and ignore the real problems this game has .. TTK is too low .. you do nothing .. Armor tanking is far superior to shield tanking .. You nerf shield extenders AR and ScR are ridiculously OP compared to every other weapon .. you add 2 new rifles and increase the range of both the AR and ScR .. Forge Gun is the most OP AV weapon in the game so you nerf swarm launchers into the ground and change nothing about the forge guns You know what CCP I said this was a make or break patch and you've failed miserably .. No wonder you kept the patch notes away from the playerbase for so long it's abysmal 1. No one really asked for Shield nerfs. CCP made the decision with some reasoning. 2. They're working on the Logis so don't beat a horse that's about to die. 3. More than likely they're waiting before they adjust it or find the right fix to adjust it. I wouldn't make such a fast move unless it was making the game unbearable(it's not). 4. AR and ScR won't be OP to the new rifles as they have range over them. And last I remember, the AR was getting a range nerf. 5. Forge Gun isn't Anti-Vehicle it's Anti-Material. It's versatility for destruction is only limited by it's weight and precision. 6. The patch notes always show up around this time. Always. "There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all." Roy Ventus
Azri Sarum BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 160	Posted - 2013.12.04 20:47:00 - [8] - Quote Considering both new guns are anti armor I would not feel bad for shields. Feel bad for armor. TTK fixing is going to require a massive balance pass on infantry gear, this patch was vehicle focused. Forge guns are getting tweaked, see this dev post Besides, we get freaking volcanos... 1.7 looks awesome. EVE - Victor Maximus DUST - Azri Sarum
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 5778	Posted - 2013.12.04 20:48:00 - [9] - Quote Karl Marx II wrote: 'A few idiots on the forums asked for shield stacking penalty so you gave it to them? what about 830 armour on a proto gallente logi? Shields are not the problem, armour is.' Let me amend that quote. Armour is not the problem, logis are. Level 5 Forum Warrior Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution Supporter of CCP raRaRa.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 8332	Posted - 2013.12.04 20:51:00 - [10] - Quote Roy Ventus wrote: 5. Forge Gun isn't Anti-Vehicle it's Anti-Material. It's versatility for destruction is only limited by it's weight and precision. It's an AV weapon. It is also receiving a nerf, it was a clerical error on CCP's part and will be put into the notes shortly. Win ISK / Vids / O7

Zatara Rought Fatal Absolution 1798	Posted - 2013.12.04 20:54:00 - [11] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber confirmed that while it's not in the patch notes forge's are getting a nerf. bows Master naders: Geniuses at evening the odds. Favorite Skype: Zatara.Rought
True Adamance Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 4541	Posted - 2013.12.04 20:57:00 - [12] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Karl Marx II wrote: 'A few idiots on the forums asked for shield stacking penalty so you gave it to them? what about 830 armour on a proto gallente logi? Shields are not the problem, armour is.' Let me amend that quote. Armour is not the problem, logis are. Well even you have to admit with your aim with that ScR you don't even really need that 300+ HP bonus a logi can get....I watched your clip, very nice gameplay. "All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
RKKR The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 499	Posted - 2013.12.04 20:59:00 - [13] - Quote Duuuuh, these are still patches that have to make up for the stuff they couldn't implement in the previous ones. CCP has been running behind ever since they released UPRISING. Expecting something good now? Haven't you learned yet?
Grimmiers 0uter.heaven Proficiency V. 352	Posted - 2013.12.04 21:03:00 - [14] - Quote Armor far superior? I think it's more of a problem with armor tanked logi's really. If you removed a low slot from all the logi suits it would be a bit more balanced given they have passive complex reps built in. SoundCloud Recruiter Link Pronounced Grim-e-urs


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