DUST Search - As a new player, this game is brutally unwelcoming. I also think it lacks soul.

vilstan wrote:

i keep tyring, but the game steadfastly remains a steaming unfun pile of ****. The imbalances in the matchmaker are ludicrous.

Tried one of the new FW battles...I got 2 kills and died about 18 times. Sure I guess I could have gone AFK in the MCC or exited the battle (actually, how?) but there were teams of guys in prototype suits (all with like 12-11 kills apiece) camping all the spawn points far enough away they couldn't be seen on the map where you chose where to spawn.

I feel like I have to be missing major mechanics at this point - other people strafe back and forth MUCH quicker than I do. they run around bunny hopping and hipfiring weapons with much greater accuracy than I can manage aiming down sights. I've even seen people doing it with rail rifles, and from what I can understand these are supposed to be long range weapons requiring precision. Yet I see guys mowing down people in close quarters combat, madly bunny hopping away. There's no way that's all just 5% skills per level...is there any kind of tutorial at all for this game? I have to be missing something major here.

I'm using the dual shock controller on the PS3. Is everyone else using a keyboard and mouse or something?


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Michael Arck Anubis Prime Syndicate 2063	Posted - 2013.12.09 15:33:00 - [1] - Quote I really think most of these "As a new player" threads are just alts voicing opinions of the main. Of course I can be wrong about that.
Michael Arck Anubis Prime Syndicate 2223	Posted - 2013.12.13 02:46:00 - [2] - Quote vilstan wrote: i keep tyring, but the game steadfastly remains a steaming unfun pile of ***. The imbalances in the matchmaker are ludicrous. Tried one of the new FW battles...I got 2 kills and died about 18 times. Sure I guess I could have gone AFK in the MCC or exited the battle (actually, how?) but there were teams of guys in prototype suits (all with like 12-11 kills apiece) camping all the spawn points far enough away they couldn't be seen on the map where you chose where to spawn. I feel like I have to be missing major mechanics at this point - other people strafe back and forth MUCH quicker than I do. they run around bunny hopping and hipfiring weapons with much greater accuracy than I can manage aiming down sights. I've even seen people doing it with rail rifles, and from what I can understand these are supposed to be long range weapons requiring precision. Yet I see guys mowing down people in close quarters combat, madly bunny hopping away. There's no way that's all just 5% skills per level...is there any kind of tutorial at all for this game? I have to be missing something major here. I'm using the dual shock controller on the PS3. Is everyone else using a keyboard and mouse or something? I honestly believe you're just another alt. Or some lurker who's been to the forums before. No one does this or creates these type of threads except those who have been in this for a while and has been advocating "new players have it rough" protest all the time. If you got 2 kills and died 18 times...then you need to be honest and evaluate your gameplay in that match. You had a hand in your own deaths as well. Major mechanics? Survival is major mechanic that you're missing? Interesting. You need to learn the different strafes and dances that will help you stay out of the reticule. You think about what the enemy thinks you're going to do and you do the opposite. Once your aim gets better, you will see the uselessness in bunny hopping. In all honesty, tutorials are not going to be able to teach you how to avoid fire, to take cover, to not be over zealous, how to pick your shots, how to track targets, how to move with your squad, knowing when to throw a nade, how to suppress, how to strafe and such. These things the player must pick up from other players and learn on the way. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.* For the State!! [email protected]
Michael Arck Anubis Prime Syndicate 2227	Posted - 2013.12.13 03:17:00 - [3] - Quote vilstan wrote: I know how to do all these things in other FPS. I would have thought the skills would translate here once you learn the controls. But they are not. I always feel like I'm fighting through a sea of molasses in this game. Either I'm missing something major or something else is up. I'm not an alt. Why would I be an alt? Is alt posting a thing everyone is paranoid about here? I'm a new player. So far this game is the must unpleasant gaming experience I've had in a long time. Take it or leave it. I guess if you want to chase all feedback out with 'you're just an alt!' you can enjoy your ****** game sinking into mediocrity and oblivion. If you're not an alt, then you're not an alt. No need to be a Nancy about it. As with all FPS games, some tactics and skills transfer to other FPS titles and others do not. From the data you've been collecting, you see that's apparent. You act as if everybody here just woke up, played Dust and was good. You had the pleasure of being in a Academy. I, and many others did not. When I started, there was no Academy. I got my butt handed to me often on Manus Peak. Getting steam rolled while my gunfire were like spitballs thrown at Goliath. It took me coming to the forums to get some tips. It took youtube to help me get assimilated with the skillsets and what was best for my playstyle. It took me joining with a corporation who helped me get on my feet, watch my six when I was fighting (my CEO was a logi and would help by bringing players bars down so I could get the kill and revive me/heal when needed). I stuck with my squad and learned through my deaths. The point is, I wanted, for my own reasons to keep pushing because of this game's brutality. Most games are easy and hand hold you. The difficulty and the HTFU motto got my attention. I kept on pushing. The game is not sinking and has been rising since its inception. Your own mediocre playstyle is what brought you to your oblivion. No tutorial can teach a player how to persevere through the rough first months of Dust 514. Either you want to continue or you don't. I can't tell you how many times I had close matches that were outright slugfest. Every move and tactic counted. It's those moments that you won't find in any other FPS on the console. It was like Chess, where each move were a set up of a next move. So yea, not too many people can really swallow that their greatness in another FPS doesn't happen in this one. At least, at first. Which leads to frustration and a perception that more tutorials is needed in order to get better. No. You must unlearn what you learned from other games and apply another mindset to endure. If you cannot, then this game really isn't for you. That's just the truth of the matter Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. For the State!! [email protected]
Michael Arck Anubis Prime Syndicate 2232	Posted - 2013.12.13 05:10:00 - [4] - Quote vilstan wrote: Calling my current skillset mediocre is being far too kind. They are abysmally bad. My issue is that I can't really tell what I'm doing wrong, which makes it hard to improve. Part of that is that I feel the TTK is quite low. The less time you have to analyze what you did wrong, the harder it is to learn from it. I mean if you do something obvious like stay in the same bit of cover too long and get flushed out by a grenade or decide to go face to face with a heavy with an LMG, the lessons are immediately and painfully apparent. But this game has a lot of 'keel over dead instantly' moments and those are always hard to learn from. Also I was never in any Academy of any kind. I created this account something like 8 months ago and played one game then my PS3 got the YLOD the next day. Is it something you can repeat? Math says that there's someone even worse than you in skills. Maybe you're being out in the open too much? Maybe you're just a little over zealous or chasing down kills? Are you aiming for headshots? Do you employ figure 8 movements when in 1 on 1 battles? Cover can only be good for so long. If the red can't hit you, he will nade you since he knows you're sitting behind cover. Then when you move from cover because of the nade, you're not moving to attack, you're moving to avoid the nade. So the red is prepared for you to either sit put or to run, in which the latter he will fire upon you. Yea I know about that insta death thing. The only way to get back into the Academy is if you created another character. I would suggest looking up Dust University. Go to the rookie section and look up Fox Gaden's guides. Interact with us on the community. People might gripe and complain but folks like to share their wisdom from their experiences. It's real rough in the beginning. But if you stick it out, you just might come to like this game. Hope you stick around. And what role do you play? What are you skilling into? That's important too. you don't want to drop SP into the wrong categories. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. For the State!! [email protected]
Michael Arck Anubis Prime Syndicate 2232	Posted - 2013.12.13 05:13:00 - [5] - Quote Vrain Matari wrote: I honestly expect 95% of all modern FPS players who try DUST to quit it. It's not a game designed for everybody, and i can understand peeps who experience the savage pounding DUST can give them and find it deeply unpleasant and ego-crushing. But i love it. The loss, the frustration, the rage, the hoplessness DUST can evoke are a filter, and those who survive, adapt and excel in the face of this brutality are the players i want as my enemies and allies. The new players who have joined us in recent months have faced a genuine trial by fire. Those who have stayed are worthy of respect, and if and when they destroy me on the battlefield i will know that although i fell, i fell to a warrior. And if the battle goes the other way and i lay him low, well the triumph is all the sweeter. This. Hope you tough it out. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. For the State!! [email protected]