DUST Search - As a new player, this game is brutally unwelcoming. I also think it lacks soul.

vilstan wrote:

I spent a lot of time yesterday looking at the market. I bought a big stack of all the militia stuff so I could try out different things. I also think I'm getting better at being able to tell the different suit types apart.

Also, is it my imagination, or do the MCC's also look a little different depending on empire?

It seems like the only heavy suit is the Amarr one, and Amarr has no light while the others do. And everyone gets a medium suit. At least at the militia level.

Now, the militia suits (and I think the first level of basic ones) have big disclaimers saying "NO ROLE BONUSES" which makes me think the OTHER suits do have role bonuses. (Like ships in eve might have 5% medium projectile damage per level of Minmatar Cruiser). However I don't see these anywhere. Are they not in yet?

Speaking of the market...in EVE everything on the market is player made. Is this the case in DUST? Is it player made in dust or is all the stuff made in EVE and sold in Dust? (This could be problematic, I think, as 2 million isk in EVE is peanuts (hooray i shot one rat) and in Dust it seems like a big deal). Is there any way to get into the market as a trader/industrialist like you can in EVE?

I whipped up an Amarr Heavy suit with an armor plate to see how it compared to my caldari suit. I had tons more HP, but died in about the same time. Sadly, with an armor plate, I couldn't also equip an armor repairer, which meant after one fight I was kinda in trouble. I couldn't figure out how to repair my own armor at any terminals or anything. Supposedly there are things you can drop/deploy that will repair armor? I don't think the Amarr Heavy Militia suit has any of those slots though.

I also kind of figured out the meta level tier system. Triangle means its better stuff than mine, x means it's much better stuff than mine. This makes me feel less bad when I get mowed down and look and see the guy was using top meta level guns and suits. He's using the absolute best stuff, I'm using the absolute worst, I probably *should* lose that fight!

How do you buy BPO's? I have one of an exile assault rifle and one of a gallente skinweave light drop suit? It seems like in the long run it would save money to buy BPO's of your most commonly used modules / suits as opposed to buying new ones every time.

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Malkai Inos Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 1047	Posted - 2013.12.05 17:10:00 - [1] - Quote vilstan wrote: I spent a lot of time yesterday looking at the market. I bought a big stack of all the militia stuff so I could try out different things. I also think I'm getting better at being able to tell the different suit types apart. Also, is it my imagination, or do the MCC's also look a little different depending on empire? It seems like the only heavy suit is the Amarr one, and Amarr has no light while the others do. And everyone gets a medium suit. At least at the militia level. Now, the militia suits (and I think the first level of basic ones) have big disclaimers saying "NO ROLE BONUSES" which makes me think the OTHER suits do have role bonuses. (Like ships in eve might have 5% medium projectile damage per level of Minmatar Cruiser). However I don't see these anywhere. Are they not in yet? Speaking of the market...in EVE everything on the market is player made. Is this the case in DUST? Is it player made in dust or is all the stuff made in EVE and sold in Dust? (This could be problematic, I think, as 2 million isk in EVE is peanuts (hooray i shot one rat) and in Dust it seems like a big deal). Is there any way to get into the market as a trader/industrialist like you can in EVE? I whipped up an Amarr Heavy suit with an armor plate to see how it compared to my caldari suit. I had tons more HP, but died in about the same time. Sadly, with an armor plate, I couldn't also equip an armor repairer, which meant after one fight I was kinda in trouble. I couldn't figure out how to repair my own armor at any terminals or anything. Supposedly there are things you can drop/deploy that will repair armor? I don't think the Amarr Heavy Militia suit has any of those slots though. I also kind of figured out the meta level tier system. Triangle means its better stuff than mine, x means it's much better stuff than mine. This makes me feel less bad when I get mowed down and look and see the guy was using top meta level guns and suits. He's using the absolute best stuff, I'm using the absolute worst, I probably should lose that fight! How do you buy BPO's? I have one of an exile assault rifle and one of a gallente skinweave light drop suit? It seems like in the long run it would save money to buy BPO's of your most commonly used modules / suits as opposed to buying new ones every time. I'll try and answer some of these questions in each paragraph. MCCs: Yes every race should have its own MCC. The ones for Minmatar and Amarr are to be added though so they usually get the variant of their allied faction. Suits: Almost. Caldari lacks their light suit aswell. Other than that you got it right. Skillbonuses: Yep non MLT(militia) suits have racial and/or role bonuses attached to them. You can look them up on the respective skill in the tree, as opposed to the suit itself like in EVE. Market: No. Everything is seeded at a fixed price and thus is not manufactured or influenced by market dynamics. A secondary player market is in the works though and manufacturing should follow eventually. Relevant skills and UI a yet to be implemented. Armor and quick death: There's currently a general consensus that the TTK(time to kill [an enemy]) is very low and that this limits the usefulness of large eHP pools. People tend to fit dmg mods because of it which, incidentally, worsenes the problem. Meta LVL: The meta system is pretty much carried over with the exception that the differences between certain meta "blocks" are much more pronounced than in eve. An ADV(advanced, or triangle) mod can easily be 50% stronger than the STD(standard) version. BPOs: CCP has almost finished removing BPOs from being purchasable since they believe that they are not compatible with the future prospect of a merging of the EVE/Dust economies. Have a read here for why i doubt that BPO have ever been a fiscally sensible choice for players and this follow-up by Cross Atu arguing that BPOs are more a psychological thing, rather than about saving ISK. You can take a benign object, -you can take a cheeseburger and deconstruct it to its source...