DUST Search - Are logis still OP?

Eldest Dragon wrote:

pegasis prime wrote:

Eldest Dragon wrote:

pegasis prime wrote:

Eldest Dragon wrote:

-1 to op, I dont wanna even get into why a hp stacking, dmg mod stacking, scanning logi should win, you obviously dont know what your talking about. Roll

dude go bother someone else with your dribblings. in fact why don't you just go back to eating your paste and strawberry flavoured windows. what a lame troll effort

Its not a troll effort, its stating the facts, and obv if you agree with op not only do you not know what your talking about ccp agrees with me. Bc guess what, yup you got it , the logis are getting a fix. There is a reason that there fixing them so they cant be run as a slayer, bc its a legitimate problem, and you should not be ashamed when losing to them. If they know how to build a fit and are even halfway good at all, you should lose, and if you ask me your the troll.

sigh ....... I run a tank most of the time but when im on ground I run a typical quick regen Ammar logi fit with either a lazer or scrambler rifle I don't damage stack or brick tank .......and guess what I do really quite well. only bad players with no skill need to brick tank and stack damage modds.

The real problem isn't the versatility of logi suits or the fact they can brick tank but the problem imo lyes with damage mod stacking you would find these slayer logis doing allot less killing if the penalties for damage mod stacking were increased..

My normal every day fit on my logistics A 1 series 2 enhanced armour reps and 1 enhanced armour plate in the lows and 2 basic shield extenders and a basic shield enegiser in the highs with a r9drop uplink k17 nanohive and a flux scanner , as I said wepons wise either a scrambler ADV or proto and a smg/scrambler pistol side arm this fit acctuall dose the business, I don't have any bother popping these apparent slayer logies as most of them lack any real gun game and rely on brick tanked high damage fits that drop just as fast as any one els.

also saying there is no shame in loosing to one of these slayers tells me allot about your lack of gun game asi said they drop just as fast as everyone else.

Like I said tanked, dmg stacked, scanning logis, are a problem, when you run against someone just as good as you at the gun game you lose. For example you run your fit, ima run a slayer logi, and then id stomp you in the ground over and over. I'm pretty sure its not my gun game, some ppl may lose regardless, not me. I continuously lose 1v1's to the same fits for a reason, and as I said before, ccp agrees and its getting a fix you troll.

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Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 713	Posted - 2013.12.04 03:45:00 - [1] - Quote Well? I believe the initial shock has worn off. I don't hear nearly as much crying. Perhaps those scrubs who get their fits off the bathroom wall have tweaked some things and are faring better. You should be a little asshamed if you can't beat up a logi.
Mr Machine Guns Nyain San Renegade Alliance 173	Posted - 2013.12.04 03:46:00 - [2] - Quote it really doesn't matter what people think now CCP said they are going to find a way to nerd them I can try to find the post its under if you want
Roger Cordill The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 140	Posted - 2013.12.04 03:48:00 - [3] - Quote Message from Godin: Yup. Thy are getting nerfed SOONtm as well (probably a buff as well, but we'll see).
Vicious Minotaur Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 392	Posted - 2013.12.04 03:50:00 - [4] - Quote I can't beat up most logis because I still use a MLT heavy with an HMG.
Mr Machine Guns Nyain San Renegade Alliance 173	Posted - 2013.12.04 03:53:00 - [5] - Quote https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=123487&find=unread here it is
Cosgar ParagonX 8280	Posted - 2013.12.04 03:56:00 - [6] - Quote Broken core mechanics, ambiguously defined suit roles and underwhelming assault suits make the logistics OP by comparison to everything else. Fix those three problems and everyone can **** up about logistics without having to nerf them. I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 713	Posted - 2013.12.04 04:31:00 - [7] - Quote I posted somewhere else that they could partition the CPU/PG. They could load on the proto equipment while hobbling them for our raping convenience.
Farsund Solheim The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 19	Posted - 2013.12.04 09:32:00 - [8] - Quote As someone who plays as a Gallente Logi, i say just take away our light weapon slot, and replace it with a single side arm slot. For a while bitching and whining will cease, until we wise up, use our low slots to equip Kinetic Catalyzers and Cardiac Regulators, stack our high slots with complex damage mods, and equip SMG's, and then WHOOPS, we will be OP again.
Farsund Solheim The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 19	Posted - 2013.12.04 10:19:00 - [9] - Quote Also, all assault suits should get a damage bonus per level to their racial weapons.
Monkey MAC Lost Millennium 1124	Posted - 2013.12.04 10:23:00 - [10] - Quote I wouldn't worry, the nerf that CCP have declared they are gonna do isn't that much of problem. Instead of having incredible amounts of Fitting Power, they will instead have incredible bonuses to fitted equipment. Such that all of the equipment a logi fitts will require almost identical fitting to one equipment on an assault. Then PG/CPU fitting power will homogonized. So instead of Logi units being able to have ALL proto Modules, proto light, proto grenade. They won't get anymore fitting power than an assault. So if an assult can't run 3 complex damage mods 4 complex plates proto AR then neither can a logi. The pen is mightier than the sword The gun is mightier than both Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.1

Eldest Dragon 0uter.Heaven Proficiency V. 382	Posted - 2013.12.04 10:48:00 - [11] - Quote -1 to op, I dont wanna even get into why a hp stacking, dmg mod stacking, scanning logi should win, you obviously dont know what your talking about. When your playing dust and your frustrated...if all else fails...turn off the ps3 works every time.
pegasis prime BIG BAD W0LVES 1319	Posted - 2013.12.04 11:10:00 - [12] - Quote Eldest Dragon wrote: -1 to op, I dont wanna even get into why a hp stacking, dmg mod stacking, scanning logi should win, you obviously dont know what your talking about. dude go bother someone else with your dribblings. in fact why don't you just go back to eating your paste and strawberry flavoured windows. what a lame troll effort Its gone from suck .....to blow level 1 forum warrior
Eldest Dragon 0uter.Heaven Proficiency V. 383	Posted - 2013.12.04 11:22:00 - [13] - Quote pegasis prime wrote: Eldest Dragon wrote: -1 to op, I dont wanna even get into why a hp stacking, dmg mod stacking, scanning logi should win, you obviously dont know what your talking about. dude go bother someone else with your dribblings. in fact why don't you just go back to eating your paste and strawberry flavoured windows. what a lame troll effort Its not a troll effort, its stating the facts, and obv if you agree with op not only do you not know what your talking about ccp agrees with me. Bc guess what, yup you got it , the logis are getting a fix. There is a reason that there fixing them so they cant be run as a slayer, bc its a legitimate problem, and you should not be ashamed when losing to them. If they know how to build a fit and are even halfway good at all, you should lose, and if you ask me your the troll. When your playing dust and your frustrated...if all else fails...turn off the ps3. Works every time.
pegasis prime BIG BAD W0LVES 1320	Posted - 2013.12.04 11:34:00 - [14] - Quote Eldest Dragon wrote: pegasis prime wrote: Eldest Dragon wrote: -1 to op, I dont wanna even get into why a hp stacking, dmg mod stacking, scanning logi should win, you obviously dont know what your talking about. dude go bother someone else with your dribblings. in fact why don't you just go back to eating your paste and strawberry flavoured windows. what a lame troll effort Its not a troll effort, its stating the facts, and obv if you agree with op not only do you not know what your talking about ccp agrees with me. Bc guess what, yup you got it , the logis are getting a fix. There is a reason that there fixing them so they cant be run as a slayer, bc its a legitimate problem, and you should not be ashamed when losing to them. If they know how to build a fit and are even halfway good at all, you should lose, and if you ask me your the troll. sigh ....... I run a tank most of the time but when im on ground I run a typical quick regen Ammar logi fit with either a lazer or scrambler rifle I don't damage stack or brick tank .......and guess what I do really quite well. only bad players with no skill need to brick tank and stack damage modds. The real problem isn't the versatility of logi suits or the fact they can brick tank but the problem imo lyes with damage mod stacking you would find these slayer logis doing allot less killing if the penalties for damage mod stacking were increased.. My normal every day fit on my logistics A 1 series 2 enhanced armour reps and 1 enhanced armour plate in the lows and 2 basic shield extenders and a basic shield enegiser in the highs with a r9drop uplink k17 nanohive and a flux scanner , as I said wepons wise either a scrambler ADV or proto and a smg/scrambler pistol side arm this fit acctuall dose the business, I don't have any bother popping these apparent slayer logies as most of them lack any real gun game and rely on brick tanked high damage fits that drop just as fast as any one els. also saying there is no shame in loosing to one of these slayers tells me allot about your lack of gun game asi said they drop just as fast as everyone else. Its gone from suck .....to blow level 1 forum warrior
Eldest Dragon 0uter.Heaven Proficiency V. 383	Posted - 2013.12.04 11:41:00 - [15] - Quote pegasis prime wrote: Eldest Dragon wrote: pegasis prime wrote: Eldest Dragon wrote: -1 to op, I dont wanna even get into why a hp stacking, dmg mod stacking, scanning logi should win, you obviously dont know what your talking about. dude go bother someone else with your dribblings. in fact why don't you just go back to eating your paste and strawberry flavoured windows. what a lame troll effort Its not a troll effort, its stating the facts, and obv if you agree with op not only do you not know what your talking about ccp agrees with me. Bc guess what, yup you got it , the logis are getting a fix. There is a reason that there fixing them so they cant be run as a slayer, bc its a legitimate problem, and you should not be ashamed when losing to them. If they know how to build a fit and are even halfway good at all, you should lose, and if you ask me your the troll. sigh ....... I run a tank most of the time but when im on ground I run a typical quick regen Ammar logi fit with either a lazer or scrambler rifle I don't damage stack or brick tank .......and guess what I do really quite well. only bad players with no skill need to brick tank and stack damage modds. The real problem isn't the versatility of logi suits or the fact they can brick tank but the problem imo lyes with damage mod stacking you would find these slayer logis doing allot less killing if the penalties for damage mod stacking were increased.. My normal every day fit on my logistics A 1 series 2 enhanced armour reps and 1 enhanced armour plate in the lows and 2 basic shield extenders and a basic shield enegiser in the highs with a r9drop uplink k17 nanohive and a flux scanner , as I said wepons wise either a scrambler ADV or proto and a smg/scrambler pistol side arm this fit acctuall dose the business, I don't have any bother popping these apparent slayer logies as most of them lack any real gun game and rely on brick tanked high damage fits that drop just as fast as any one els. also saying there is no shame in loosing to one of these slayers tells me allot about your lack of gun game asi said they drop just as fast as everyone else. Like I said tanked, dmg stacked, scanning logis, are a problem, when you run against someone just as good as you at the gun game you lose. For example you run your fit, ima run a slayer logi, and then id stomp you in the ground over and over. I'm pretty sure its not my gun game, some ppl may lose regardless, not me. I continuously lose 1v1's to the same fits for a reason, and as I said before, ccp agrees and its getting a fix you troll. When your playing dust and your frustrated...if all else fails...turn off the ps3. Works every time.
pegasis prime BIG BAD W0LVES 1320	Posted - 2013.12.04 11:48:00 - [16] - Quote Eldest Dragon wrote: pegasis prime wrote: Eldest Dragon wrote: pegasis prime wrote: Eldest Dragon wrote: -1 to op, I dont wanna even get into why a hp stacking, dmg mod stacking, scanning logi should win, you obviously dont know what your talking about. dude go bother someone else with your dribblings. in fact why don't you just go back to eating your paste and strawberry flavoured windows. what a lame troll effort Its not a troll effort, its stating the facts, and obv if you agree with op not only do you not know what your talking about ccp agrees with me. Bc guess what, yup you got it , the logis are getting a fix. There is a reason that there fixing them so they cant be run as a slayer, bc its a legitimate problem, and you should not be ashamed when losing to them. If they know how to build a fit and are even halfway good at all, you should lose, and if you ask me your the troll. sigh ....... I run a tank most of the time but when im on ground I run a typical quick regen Ammar logi fit with either a lazer or scrambler rifle I don't damage stack or brick tank .......and guess what I do really quite well. only bad players with no skill need to brick tank and stack damage modds. The real problem isn't the versatility of logi suits or the fact they can brick tank but the problem imo lyes with damage mod stacking you would find these slayer logis doing allot less killing if the penalties for damage mod stacking were increased.. My normal every day fit on my logistics A 1 series 2 enhanced armour reps and 1 enhanced armour plate in the lows and 2 basic shield extenders and a basic shield enegiser in the highs with a r9drop uplink k17 nanohive and a flux scanner , as I said wepons wise either a scrambler ADV or proto and a smg/scrambler pistol side arm this fit acctuall dose the business, I don't have any bother popping these apparent slayer logies as most of them lack any real gun game and rely on brick tanked high damage fits that drop just as fast as any one els. also saying there is no shame in loosing to one of these slayers tells me allot about your lack of gun game asi said they drop just as fast as everyone else. Like I said tanked, dmg stacked, scanning logis, are a problem, when you run against someone just as good as you at the gun game you lose. For example you run your fit, ima run a slayer logi, and then id stomp you in the ground over and over. I'm pretty sure its not my gun game, some ppl may lose regardless, not me. I continuously lose 1v1's to the same fits for a reason, and as I said before, ccp agrees and its getting a fix you troll. dude I cant count how many apparent slayer logis iv melted, if im playing at my top end , and keeping redberries at my optimum range then it normally takes 2-4 mercs to bring me down. and since they are brick tanked its easy to out erun them and keep them at range . also when they are brick tanked all you need to do is whittle their hp down bit at a time as their regen will be pittyfull, the second I take fir im in cover and with my quick regen fits im back to full hp in less than 10 seconds and that's with less than 1 third armour. Its gone from suck .....to blow level 1 forum warrior
Eldest Dragon 0uter.Heaven Proficiency V. 383	Posted - 2013.12.04 11:57:00 - [17] - Quote Well this thread is getting old, I think slayer logi's is a problem and so does ccp, thats why there getting a fix, You obviously dont, now we can agree to disagree, you have a nice day. When your playing dust and your frustrated...if all else fails...turn off the ps3. Works every time.
pegasis prime BIG BAD W0LVES 1320	Posted - 2013.12.04 12:06:00 - [18] - Quote no slayer logis are only a symptom of the greater problem......DAMMAGE MOD STACKING..............is the real problem. Don't be upset because someone fits their suit to have a high tank and high damage capability.. they have to give up on regen and unless they run ammar logis they have no side arm. they also are allot slower due to brick tanking but the issue isn't slayer logis its damage stacking .. Once the logi QQ has died it will move onto another wepon/suit/mod....... any thing that's not an assault suit with an ar iv seen countless QQ threads about any thing that's not an AR wielding assault.. i Its gone from suck .....to blow level 1 forum warrior
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4301	Posted - 2013.12.04 12:13:00 - [19] - Quote I am the leader of the anti logi revolution. (Because I'm a cat, STFU) Since CCP confirmed a nerf is in order, there is no point in keeping posting. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Benjamin Ciscko The Generals General Tso's Alliance 267	Posted - 2013.12.04 12:16:00 - [20] - Quote Mr Machine Guns wrote: it really doesn't matter what people think now CCP said they are going to find a way to nerd them I can try to find the post its under if you want And them you will move onto the next FOTM strap on a duvollle some nanohives and spam core locus the whole game. Vehicle rework scheduled for 1.5.... 1.6.... 1.7........ Tanker/Logi Wait until AV feels the pain vehicle users have

Shadow Archeus OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 159	Posted - 2013.12.04 12:29:00 - [21] - Quote The reason nobody is complaining anymore is that CCP already said they're getting the nerf hammer.......
Tek Hound Death In Xcess Corporation 153	Posted - 2013.12.04 13:13:00 - [22] - Quote Eldest Dragon wrote: Well this thread is getting old, I think slayer logi's is a problem and so does ccp, thats why there getting a fix, You obviously dont, now we can agree to disagree, you have a nice day. No it's not a problem its scrub assaults L2p module.CCp only nerfing logi because they come running every time an scrub assault can't reload his AR.
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 610	Posted - 2013.12.04 13:23:00 - [23] - Quote Sheesh. All CCP is doing is changing the bonuses to incentivize using equipment. Besides, have you not been paying attention? Trolls are the FOTM now, and being a dooshbag is OP. "The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu Amarr victor!
Komodo Jones Chaotik Serenity 241	Posted - 2013.12.04 13:33:00 - [24] - Quote Darken-Sol wrote: Well? I believe the initial shock has worn off. I don't hear nearly as much crying. Perhaps those scrubs who get their fits off the bathroom wall have tweaked some things and are faring better. You should be a little asshamed if you can't beat up a logi. Well enough people have said it is so it must be. They're just jealous because their suits aren't really specialized like ours is. Heavies don't have enough damage resistance to be walking meatshields, assaults do the same amount of damage as everyone else and in fact have less mod slots than logi so probably do less damage, and scouts are getting hammered. There's talk of nerfing them, heard some about nerfing their module slots which is a bad idea because we need health if any of you want to stay alive, and there's sidearm only which is dumb because it just limits logies to close range which will discourage some players and doesn't make people like me any less powerful. You wanna corner logies into a preferred support role? Then give the other suits the bonuses they need, heavies get damage reduction to buff health, assaults get damage buffs, and I forgot what scouts get but there was a really good post on it. The point is if you think nerfing logies is a good idea you're not looking at the big picture, logies aren't OP, the guns are OP and the other suits are UP, logistics suits are right where they need to be. And besides they're changing the skill bonus for speccing into logistics suits anyway, the armor repair bonus will be replaced with equipment bonuses so quit your whining and just give it some time.
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 714	Posted - 2013.12.04 14:10:00 - [25] - Quote John Demonsbane wrote: Sheesh. All CCP is doing is changing the bonuses to incentivize using equipment. Besides, have you not been paying attention? Trolls are the FOTM now, and being a dooshbag is OP. that's the flavor of new Eden. Its the one way CCP will always have customers. They rely on trolls and douche bags, and the we flock to them. They provide a sand box where we can shiteon each other. Then they poke us with sticks.
SteelheadPep SAM-MIK 6	Posted - 2013.12.04 14:43:00 - [26] - Quote The slayers will just look for the next FOTM, while those of us who are support logis ;Needles,reps,Nanohives,uplinks, scanners will be left with another gimped suit. Logis are becoming a rarity so keep up your witch hunt and you to will be picked up by some non logi with a milta needle farming you for points. Do you have any understanding how much CPU/PG adv and proto needles and reppers use. I run proto needles and adv reppers to support my squad/team. Would get more points with using milta but more of you would end up losing your proto suits and affecting your precious KDR. Let the nerf hammer swing.
Humble Seeker PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 100	Posted - 2013.12.04 15:03:00 - [27] - Quote pegasis prime wrote: Eldest Dragon wrote: -1 to op, I dont wanna even get into why a hp stacking, dmg mod stacking, scanning logi should win, you obviously dont know what your talking about. dude go bother someone else with your dribblings. in fact why don't you just go back to eating your paste and strawberry flavoured windows. what a lame troll effort Just what the hell does your normal diet consist of if that is any indication? "Surround yourself with the faithful, Stand together, for there is no strength like it under the heavens."
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 2724	Posted - 2013.12.04 15:05:00 - [28] - Quote Yes, everyone's just busy complaining about the FF. Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 2 STB-Infantry (Demolition)
Cosgar ParagonX 8294	Posted - 2013.12.04 16:31:00 - [29] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: I am the leader of the anti logi revolution. (Because I'm a cat, STFU) Since CCP confirmed a nerf is in order, there is no point in keeping posting. Except this was something they wanted to do back in 1.0 but couldn't properly code it. It's not a nerf when it was planned from the start. Stop acting like you did something. That's what the **** is wrong with this community. I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
Killar-12 The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 1838	Posted - 2013.12.04 16:37:00 - [30] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: I wouldn't worry, the nerf that CCP have declared they are gonna do isn't that much of problem. Instead of having incredible amounts of Fitting Power, they will instead have incredible bonuses to fitted equipment. Such that all of the equipment a logi fitts will require almost identical fitting to one equipment on an assault. Then PG/CPU fitting power will homogonized. So instead of Logi units being able to have ALL proto Modules, proto light, proto grenade. They won't get anymore fitting power than an assault. So if an assult can't run 3 complex damage mods 4 complex plates proto AR then neither can a logi. or just allow the assault to do so... Also Cosgar's right with his response to Cat Merc, this community is shitt, hell the EVE community is more tolerable than you and half of them are paranoid nutjobs Level 1 Forum Warrior I'm a bittervet, if I seem like a douche it's because of your stupidity

Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 773	Posted - 2013.12.04 16:46:00 - [31] - Quote Killar-12 wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: I wouldn't worry, the nerf that CCP have declared they are gonna do isn't that much of problem. Instead of having incredible amounts of Fitting Power, they will instead have incredible bonuses to fitted equipment. Such that all of the equipment a logi fitts will require almost identical fitting to one equipment on an assault. Then PG/CPU fitting power will homogonized. So instead of Logi units being able to have ALL proto Modules, proto light, proto grenade. They won't get anymore fitting power than an assault. So if an assult can't run 3 complex damage mods 4 complex plates proto AR then neither can a logi. or just allow the assault to do so... Also Cosgar's right with his response to Cat Merc, this community is shitt, hell the EVE community is more tolerable than you and half of them are paranoid nutjobs Why so serious? :( KDR > ALL ME > KDR ME > ALL
Killar-12 The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 1840	Posted - 2013.12.04 16:50:00 - [32] - Quote Spectral Clone wrote: Killar-12 wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: I wouldn't worry, the nerf that CCP have declared they are gonna do isn't that much of problem. Instead of having incredible amounts of Fitting Power, they will instead have incredible bonuses to fitted equipment. Such that all of the equipment a logi fitts will require almost identical fitting to one equipment on an assault. Then PG/CPU fitting power will homogonized. So instead of Logi units being able to have ALL proto Modules, proto light, proto grenade. They won't get anymore fitting power than an assault. So if an assult can't run 3 complex damage mods 4 complex plates proto AR then neither can a logi. or just allow the assault to do so... Also Cosgar's right with his response to Cat Merc, this community is shitt, hell the EVE community is more tolerable than you and half of them are paranoid nutjobs Why so serious? :( I'm a dog person I really don't like cats Level 1 Forum Warrior I'm a bittervet, if I seem like a douche it's because of your stupidity
Soldiersaint Deepspace Digital 598	Posted - 2013.12.04 16:53:00 - [33] - Quote Darken-Sol wrote: Well? I believe the initial shock has worn off. I don't hear nearly as much crying. Perhaps those scrubs who get their fits off the bathroom wall have tweaked some things and are faring better. You should be a little asshamed if you can't beat up a logi. If they nerf the rep tool again then nobody will play logi. Its not right that they take away our points that we worked for. Ha i bet that if they put a cap on wp for kills you would all cry and whine. our job is to heal revive and rearm our battle brothers. So why the hell do we get punished and nerfed when we do our job? I dont see that happening to the kill freaks. They even nerfed our vehicle brothers for what? They are supposed to be that strong. They took away our points for healing vehicles and turrets now people want them to take away our points for healing all together. Never in my life have i seen so much hate for a class that does so much for its team.


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