You trying to take down a tank with that shotgun?

As much as I'd love to shove my CreoDron up some AR/ScR carrying Gal Logi ass, lets just step back and take a nice deep breath, Shotty.

The shotgun could use a damage increase, but I think it needs a bit more balanced approach. Something like 800 max w/o damage mods for the CreoDron Shotgun and a slower damage dropoff, enough for about 3-5m more effective range.

This is like making the AR do 100 damage a bullet or the HMG 60 a bullet
No

I miss chromosome soddenly

I'm sure the heavies would love this idea.

Make the optimal range 2 meters and you've got yourself a deal. If the shotgun becomes a OHK for any dropsuit it needs to only function as complete surprise weapon. Giving it a 5m optimal, or even a 4m one, would make it stupidly powerful.

Limiting the optimal range to two meters with an effective of 8m would make it a very interesting user for both the crazy shotgunner and his/her poor prey.

Like given.

TEARS

You can call it what you want to feel better about yourself, but if youre still bitchin then youre simply a skill-less *****. I will agree with you though, Breach in Chrome was fun as hell. You think youre safe in proto? BREACH MOTHAFUCKA!

in my honest opinion no light weapon should be able to OHK a heavy frame Sorta defeats the purpose of spending the extra skill points to get into a heavy frame.

Allow me to hear foot steps consistently and working surround sound. Then you got yourself a deal.

I approve, but only if the shotgun is 3 shots per clip with a max ammo of 18.

What about 4? Half the current clip sounds honest

The shotgun can, without damage mods, 2 shot most suits in the game and 3 shot everything but the max hp stacked heavies. Learn to aim scrubs.

Or I could just run my Mass Driver with prof V and a complex damage mod.

And A Duvolle Active Scanner.

On my logi

I see this statement and negate it with the fact that everything gets shredded by a Duvolle or Militia AR before you get the third shot off.

This shotgun already excists, its the Breach, it can potentially OHK everything....

With only 2 rounds in the Mag, it will also need the shotgun user to be aware of his suroundings aswell, instead of heaving 6 OHK rounds and just plowing into a group of berries, with can potentially lead to a full out murdered squad in seconds. I know i would and no people would have a snowballs chance in hell to stop me...that would be 6 shots and 6 dead.

So instead of asking for shotguns be changed, use the Breach, when i used it before the respec i let roll tears like waterfalls, get good at it because it does not come with a security blanket...and missing a single round means, you die...




1) shotgun pellets can already travel trough an engine block, i cant see the logic of them bouncing off Armor
2) shotguns in RL can kill up to 30-50m out, having a sci-fi shotgun that shoots as far as i can cough someone to death sounds really unrealistic.
3) Basically someone on your team keeps everyone scanned, then the new OHK shotgun with 6 rounds goes in to quickly mop em up
6) and then swap to Nova knives to mop up the rest

All i see is a post to try and put the other team in a state of fearing the shotgun, without yourself comming out of any comfort zones, just use the Breach like everyone does ....oh wait noone uses it because it puts them out of their own comfort zone...

Just learn to only shoot when you are absolutely sure to hit and you want have a problem with the Breach at all...combined with a Scrambler Breach pistol, people should really be dropping fast...

1) This would step on the toes of the nova knives which is meant to be the ultimate assinate people in the back weapon.

2) Shotguns shouldn't be confined to such a short range. It should continue to be a short range brawler weapon, even for a scout suit that sneaks up on people. Also it should be a weapon that medium frames can use effectively as well as scouts.

3) Breach shotguns. Now this is the weapon that should OHKO people.

Probably should also change the shotgun to have a louder sound when fired to go with this (or any sizable damage boost).

More noise moves it away the sneaky assassin weapon that the knives are supposed to fill while also allowing the shotgun to become a fear weapon. If they hear a loud boom and see a buddy pop up on the wrong side of the kill feed, a red is going to get real nervous.

If you approve of me being your overlord, I will command CCP Wolfman to do as you said.

*Sits on his royal cat throne*

You're in a building with a CRU outside. Enemies are spawning in from it constantly pushing in and you have no ability to push out. Then in comes a douche in a proto heavy or a dual tanked proto Gallente assault through that doorway with your OHK shotty and a logi with proto repair tool on him and obliterates everything before anyone can so much as scratch his armor.

You can't balance a weapon on how well it would work on a single suit because it will be abused by the other suits you didn't account for

I do have a thought.

Give shotguns a secondary fire mode. Allow it to dispense two/three rounds at a time. Could change the overall surprise factor without modifying the gun itself. Would also allow you flexibility in engagements if you know your targets HP values.

Also I would suggest this "Cerberus" shotgun be a new variant as opposed to across the board change.

This happens then I'll be forever inside a tank, this idea of yours if by far the most preposterous thing that could happen to Dust since the days of the AC-130 Dropship.

Sorry but I've used shotguns before and they're simply too easy to get kills with the right fit, all the guys I used to play with also said the same. Anytime I would see another good shotgunner I knew that the encounter was likely be a 50/50 so I really couldn't be bothered with taking those risks. PRO shotguns aren't even needed to rack up the kills as the damage for militia is still high, all you need to do is use a speedy fit to avoid the incoming damage and not miss (2-3 hits to kill).

Too easy?
So you use gal logi with 3 dmg mode currently with probably TAC AR.... Right Alldin, i often like your idea on the forum ( how upgrade commando suit & reduce nades spam ) but here you laugh at me, how you can say SG is OP with such a troll fit you dont even need skill with, you have AA in CQC just spray n pray