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Felix Faraday KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 122	Posted - 2013.12.03 20:56:00 - [1] - Quote Forgive me if this has been answered somewhere. I've been gone awhile, I just heard about and read the 1.7 vehicle changes, and don't really feel like wading through forums to see if this has been addressed. The biggest issue I had with dropships were railgun tanks sitting back in their redline, sniping me from halfway across the map... completely out of harms way. Even if I switched to full anti-tank gear, they'd just roll back behind a hill, too far in the red zone to even hit. Has anything been done that fixes this? If not, I really don't see a reason to come back to piloting.
Foundation Seldon Gespenster Kompanie Villore Accords 235	Posted - 2013.12.03 22:00:00 - [2] - Quote Nope, if anything with the changes to turrets (Compressed Railgun Damage at the Heat Gain and Rate of Fire Non-Compressed Rails), the changes to vehicles (Dropship and Tank decrease in eHP with the tradeoff that active resist modules are much more potent but have long cooldowns) and the addition of certain modules (+30% Damage Modifiers) Redline railing in 1.7 is going to be more powerful than it is now. 1.7 LAVs - Thoughts and Discussion
Vyzion Eyri The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 2164	Posted - 2013.12.03 22:03:00 - [3] - Quote The rendering issues benefit us in this regard. I have rarely seen tanks railgun snipe anymore, in fact, last time I saw a railgun tank he was on the frontlines blasting at other tanks at close to medium range. Sitting at the redline will be very quiet for the tanker, and lonely too. "When nothing is going your way, go out of your way to do nothing."
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 5740	Posted - 2013.12.03 22:03:00 - [4] - Quote Nah, rail tank sniping is always going to be a thing whilst there are lol redline mechanics like there are atm. Level 5 Forum Warrior Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution Supporter of CCP raRaRa.
darkiller240 K-A-O-S theory 197	Posted - 2013.12.03 22:10:00 - [5] - Quote all you need is a ADS pilot to sit on top of him and kill him Easy kill as they usually have more into damage then HP "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." - Albert Einstein
Jadd Hatchen Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 109	Posted - 2013.12.03 22:12:00 - [6] - Quote Felix Faraday wrote: Forgive me if this has been answered somewhere. I've been gone awhile, I just heard about and read the 1.7 vehicle changes, and don't really feel like wading through forums to see if this has been addressed. The biggest issue I had with dropships were railgun tanks sitting back in their redline, sniping me from halfway across the map... completely out of harms way. Even if I switched to full anti-tank gear, they'd just roll back behind a hill, too far in the red zone to even hit. Has anything been done that fixes this? If not, I really don't see a reason to come back to piloting. Luckily such huge targets as tanks are easy to scout out for orbital strikes. And since they are in the enemy's redzone no chance of friendly fire. ;)
Vulpes Dolosus SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 362	Posted - 2013.12.03 22:13:00 - [7] - Quote Rails need to be long range, but not artillery. The maps are way too small to allow a 600m weapon, especially one as powerful and accurate as the rail tank. Dropship Specialist: AKA Clinically Insane Kills- Incubus: 3; Pythons: 0; Logistics: 0; Militia: 19; Tanks: 4
Pvt Numnutz Black Phoenix Mercenaries 379	Posted - 2013.12.03 22:16:00 - [8] - Quote nothing has been done about them yet. No vehicle should be able to fire from friendly red lines. Though the changes to dropships might be worth coming back to piloting. Caldari dropships are getting awesome shield regens and more HP. All dropships are going to be doubling in max airspeed as well. I'll let you know how it is in 1.7 if you are still interested in flying.
Flix Keptick Red Star. EoN. 1439	Posted - 2013.12.03 22:18:00 - [9] - Quote darkiller240 wrote: all you need is a ADS pilot to sit on top of him and kill him Easy kill as they usually have more into damage then HP He is in the redline. As in: dropship will explode after 20 seconds "HP needs no buff, certain weapons need nerf. Or else all other become obsolete." GÿåForum warrior lvl.1Gÿå
Foxhound Elite The Rainbow Effect 533	Posted - 2013.12.03 22:27:00 - [10] - Quote Flix Keptick wrote: darkiller240 wrote: all you need is a ADS pilot to sit on top of him and kill him Easy kill as they usually have more into damage then HP He is in the redline. As in: dropship will explode after 20 seconds ... but it's not impossible, just unlikely . A good pilot with a fitted afterburner can do the job, even if it takes three - four times of flying into the enemy redline to deal with the perpetrator. Python pilot, troop-transport specialist and an all-round ballbag.

Foundation Seldon Gespenster Kompanie Villore Accords 235	Posted - 2013.12.03 22:36:00 - [11] - Quote Foxhound Elite wrote: Flix Keptick wrote: darkiller240 wrote: all you need is a ADS pilot to sit on top of him and kill him Easy kill as they usually have more into damage then HP He is in the redline. As in: dropship will explode after 20 seconds ... but it's not impossible, just unlikely . A good pilot with a fitted afterburner can do the job, even if it takes three - four times of flying into the enemy redline to deal with the perpetrator. Sure, in a situation where you have an immensely incompetent Tank driver that isn't able to retreat deeper into the redline or activate his own defensive modules or recall the damn thing then an extremely well fit Python with the assault dropship skill maxed might be able to take one out without his dropship exploding. In the meantime we'll continue to talk about realistic battle situations in which a Redline railer is more or less inaccessible to a pilot. 1.7 LAVs - Thoughts and Discussion
Medic 1879 Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 1340	Posted - 2013.12.03 22:39:00 - [12] - Quote Flix Keptick wrote: darkiller240 wrote: all you need is a ADS pilot to sit on top of him and kill him Easy kill as they usually have more into damage then HP He is in the redline. As in: dropship will explode after 20 seconds Don't dropships get an expanded redline while they are in flight I know they used to. TEST signature please help me think of a better one.
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 5744	Posted - 2013.12.03 22:41:00 - [13] - Quote Medic 1879 wrote: Flix Keptick wrote: darkiller240 wrote: all you need is a ADS pilot to sit on top of him and kill him Easy kill as they usually have more into damage then HP He is in the redline. As in: dropship will explode after 20 seconds Don't dropships get an expanded redline while they are in flight I know they used to. They do. I'm not sure if Flix is a pilot, so he might simply have overlooked that. Level 5 Forum Warrior Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution Supporter of CCP raRaRa.
Nirwanda Vaughns Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 228	Posted - 2013.12.03 22:43:00 - [14] - Quote Also throw in the reduced lock on range for swarms and redlinerails are sitting pretty.
Skihids Unkn0wn Killers Renegade Alliance 2471	Posted - 2013.12.03 22:48:00 - [15] - Quote Medic 1879 wrote: Flix Keptick wrote: darkiller240 wrote: all you need is a ADS pilot to sit on top of him and kill him Easy kill as they usually have more into damage then HP He is in the redline. As in: dropship will explode after 20 seconds Don't dropships get an expanded redline while they are in flight I know they used to. They do, but only around the common line. The enemy redline is not altered for airborne vehicles.
Felix Faraday KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 122	Posted - 2013.12.03 23:01:00 - [16] - Quote Pvt Numnutz wrote: All dropships are going to be doubling in max airspeed as well. I missed that one. That just might make it fun enough to come back and play around with.
Pvt Numnutz Black Phoenix Mercenaries 380	Posted - 2013.12.03 23:24:00 - [17] - Quote Felix Faraday wrote: Pvt Numnutz wrote: All dropships are going to be doubling in max airspeed as well. I missed that one. That just might make it fun enough to come back and play around with. I'm sure afterburner fits are going to be very fun im going to enjoy experimenting with the new dropships even though it seems many tankers have lost their spines and will be camping it up in the red. Maybe the speed will be enough to balance it?


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