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Mdog 24158
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.12.03 20:54:00 -
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Because even if you lose you still gain loyalty points. If you lose a factional contract you should earn 0 loyalty points so its a much more intense batte. It actually encourages people to use proto gear instead of proto stomping new players in public matches
Flying derpships and scout shotgunning 24/7 quite fun i must say
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Kasote Denzara
A Vulture
1108
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Posted - 2013.12.03 20:55:00 -
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People will use whatever the hell the want. Their ISK, their gear, their way.
SWEET MOTHER OF TERESA ON THE HOOD OF A MERCEDES BENZ, YOU SOUND LIKE A MAJESTIC EAGLE! DO YOU SING?!
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
655
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Posted - 2013.12.03 20:56:00 -
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Actually it states that you get significantly less LP if you lose.
More incentive to win in FW than in Pubs
I shot a man in Black Rise onceGǪ Just to watch him die
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Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
2418
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Posted - 2013.12.03 20:57:00 -
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Mdog 24158 wrote:Because even if you lose you still gain loyalty points. If you lose a factional contract you should earn 0 loyalty points so its a much more intense batte. It actually encourages people to use proto gear instead of proto stomping new players in public matches
If this logic were accurate it would apply even more so to public games. It clearly doesn't.
No.
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
RISE of LEGION
2119
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Posted - 2013.12.03 20:58:00 -
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Mdog 24158 wrote:Because even if you lose you still gain loyalty points. If you lose a factional contract you should earn 0 loyalty points so its a much more intense batte. It actually encourages people to use proto gear instead of proto stomping new players in public matches
I don't think it should be zero.
Just like anything you should get paid on performance. If two or three guys did well on the losing side they should get paid.
If not then you'll have people just quit at the first sign of difficulty.
Again if it were team deploy I don't think you'd have the same issue because there is corp pride involved.
The more I think about the more pissed I get that there isn't team deploy.
Remove time in battle from ISK payout formula and provide a bonus to winning team... Watch battles become fun again.
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Mass Heals
Subsonic Synthesis
RISE of LEGION
123
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Posted - 2013.12.03 20:59:00 -
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I'm going balls to the wall crazy. |
Daxxis KANNAH
Distinct Covert Initiative
484
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Posted - 2013.12.03 21:00:00 -
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Llast 326 wrote:Actually it states that you get significantly less LP if you lose.
More incentive to win in FW than in Pubs
Hopefully the payouts are good enough to promote the use of better gear. |
Jadd Hatchen
Psygod9
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
106
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Posted - 2013.12.03 21:04:00 -
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Mdog 24158 wrote:Because even if you lose you still gain loyalty points. If you lose a factional contract you should earn 0 loyalty points so its a much more intense batte. It actually encourages people to use proto gear instead of proto stomping new players in public matches
OMG are you dumb!
Look at this graph here:
http://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/news.control/65526/1/LP_Graph.png
You will see that there is a HUGE difference between LPs earned for winning and for loosing. So if you think this game is a grind now, you w3ill be grinding away for ages in loosing matches to get nowhere really fast on that graph. Only through winning will you actually accrue enough FW levels fast enough to get to the "real paydays" at level 7 and above. Hell you have to win 70 matches to even get to a point where a loss will earn you anywhere near 1000 LPs at like level 7. When instead at that level if you win you get over 10,000 LPs! hell at level 10 you could be earning over 30,000 LPs for a win!
If you never win a match then you never advance in standings level as shown on this chart and graph:
http://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/news.control/65526/1/Standings_table.png
http://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/news.control/65526/1/Standings_Graph.png
So in the end you have to win at some point to even get any amount of LPs to be viable for any of the FW rewards.
So loosing earns you like 1/10 or less than if you won and it's still not enough to encourage grinding losses to farm the FW gear.
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Rogue Saint
Science For Death
567
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Posted - 2013.12.03 21:07:00 -
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New "forward" system? What's that?
GôêGÆ+GÆ+GƦ - Bringing the dakka
[The whiny Scout]
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
656
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Posted - 2013.12.03 21:08:00 -
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Daxxis KANNAH wrote:Llast 326 wrote:Actually it states that you get significantly less LP if you lose.
More incentive to win in FW than in Pubs Hopefully the payouts are good enough to promote the use of better gear.
Without firm LP prices on gear it's hard to say.
I know that lower fitting costs are attractive to me as a scout, and the specialist gear is stated to have that. If the balance of the LP economy works this will be great.
I shot a man in Black Rise onceGǪ Just to watch him die
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Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
1818
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Posted - 2013.12.03 21:09:00 -
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Replacing the "backward" system of today? |
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