DUST Search - Friendly fire. With blueberries.

Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:

Your Absolut End wrote:

Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:

calisk galern wrote:

Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:

GG.

Aside from the vast amounts of griefing that's going to happen, serious play will get wrecked by this.

Throw a grenade? A blueberry will be drawn to it magically. They may even stare at it for a few moments before dying and deciding that it was your fault they died. 'WAAAH PUNISH' *standings loss*

You may be firing at an enemy when a bluedot flies out of nowhere and stands in front of you on 3 armour. They will, of course, decide it's your fault they died. 'WAAAH PUNISH' *standings loss*

Despite the awesome orbital changes, I'll never use one again. If I do, my standings will get wrecked because some moron blueberry charged into the massive rays of death coming from the sky and decided that it was my fault he died. 'WAAAH PUNISH' *standings loss* *kicked*

not really that hard....

it will be easy to avoid blueberries that want to jump in front of your shots, but more importantly just watch your own ass and use them as cover.

use fluxes if needed, but ya you shouldn't be using grenades when teamates are around anyway, this is standard pc practice.

third and most importantly que sync your team deploys, this should resolve most of your issues.

Do you often Q-sync? Do you know how much of a pain it is?
And you still get some blueberries, unless you Q-sync your entire team which has an astronomically low chance of happening.

We do it quiet often, works in roughly 1-3 deploys, even with a full team.

Really?
What front? Gallente/Caldari or Minmatar/Amarr?
On the Gallente/Caldari it's a nightmare to do and we rarely get 2 squads in.

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Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 5722	Posted - 2013.12.03 19:24:00 - [1] - Quote GG. Aside from the vast amounts of griefing that's going to happen, serious play will get wrecked by this. Throw a grenade? A blueberry will be drawn to it magically. They may even stare at it for a few moments before dying and deciding that it was your fault they died. 'WAAAH PUNISH' standings loss You may be firing at an enemy when a bluedot flies out of nowhere and stands in front of you on 3 armour. They will, of course, decide it's your fault they died. 'WAAAH PUNISH' standings loss Despite the awesome orbital changes, I'll never use one again. If I do, my standings will get wrecked because some moron blueberry charged into the massive rays of death coming from the sky and decided that it was my fault he died. 'WAAAH PUNISH' standings loss kicked Level 5 Forum Warrior Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution Supporter of CCP raRaRa.
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 1350	Posted - 2013.12.03 19:29:00 - [2] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: GG. Aside from the vast amounts of griefing that's going to happen, serious play will get wrecked by this. Throw a grenade? A blueberry will be drawn to it magically. They may even stare at it for a few moments before dying and deciding that it was your fault they died. 'WAAAH PUNISH' standings loss You may be firing at an enemy when a bluedot flies out of nowhere and stands in front of you on 3 armour. They will, of course, decide it's your fault they died. 'WAAAH PUNISH' standings loss Despite the awesome orbital changes, I'll never use one again. If I do, my standings will get wrecked because some moron blueberry charged into the massive rays of death coming from the sky and decided that it was my fault he died. 'WAAAH PUNISH' standings loss kicked not really that hard.... it will be easy to avoid blueberries that want to jump in front of your shots, but more importantly just watch your own ass and use them as cover. use fluxes if needed, but ya you shouldn't be using grenades when teamates are around anyway, this is standard pc practice. third and most importantly que sync your team deploys, this should resolve most of your issues.
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 5724	Posted - 2013.12.03 19:33:00 - [3] - Quote calisk galern wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: GG. Aside from the vast amounts of griefing that's going to happen, serious play will get wrecked by this. Throw a grenade? A blueberry will be drawn to it magically. They may even stare at it for a few moments before dying and deciding that it was your fault they died. 'WAAAH PUNISH' standings loss You may be firing at an enemy when a bluedot flies out of nowhere and stands in front of you on 3 armour. They will, of course, decide it's your fault they died. 'WAAAH PUNISH' standings loss Despite the awesome orbital changes, I'll never use one again. If I do, my standings will get wrecked because some moron blueberry charged into the massive rays of death coming from the sky and decided that it was my fault he died. 'WAAAH PUNISH' standings loss kicked not really that hard.... it will be easy to avoid blueberries that want to jump in front of your shots, but more importantly just watch your own ass and use them as cover. use fluxes if needed, but ya you shouldn't be using grenades when teamates are around anyway, this is standard pc practice. third and most importantly que sync your team deploys, this should resolve most of your issues. Do you often Q-sync? Do you know how much of a pain it is? And you still get some blueberries, unless you Q-sync your entire team which has an astronomically low chance of happening. Level 5 Forum Warrior Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution Supporter of CCP raRaRa.
Dunk Mujunk RestlessSpirits 355	Posted - 2013.12.03 19:35:00 - [4] - Quote Valid concerns. Calisk brings up a good point with the q sync, but 8 man squads would make this all much less stressfull.
Jadd Hatchen Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 99	Posted - 2013.12.03 19:36:00 - [5] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: GG. Aside from the vast amounts of griefing that's going to happen, serious play will get wrecked by this. Throw a grenade? A blueberry will be drawn to it magically. They may even stare at it for a few moments before dying and deciding that it was your fault they died. 'WAAAH PUNISH' standings loss You may be firing at an enemy when a bluedot flies out of nowhere and stands in front of you on 3 armour. They will, of course, decide it's your fault they died. 'WAAAH PUNISH' standings loss Despite the awesome orbital changes, I'll never use one again. If I do, my standings will get wrecked because some moron blueberry charged into the massive rays of death coming from the sky and decided that it was my fault he died. 'WAAAH PUNISH' standings loss kicked And suddenly you have just pointed out two of the best things about the changes. People complained about all the nade spammage - Walla! Now there are consequences! People complained about how multiple orbital strikes being OP in a match - Walla! Even more consequences! You guys just like to complain for no reason at all!
Dunk Mujunk RestlessSpirits 355	Posted - 2013.12.03 19:38:00 - [6] - Quote Not really. How many team killing alts will pepper FW? I think a bunch. We will see.
KenKaniff69 Fatal Absolution 953	Posted - 2013.12.03 19:39:00 - [7] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: GG. Aside from the vast amounts of griefing that's going to happen, serious play will get wrecked by this. Throw a grenade? A blueberry will be drawn to it magically. They may even stare at it for a few moments before dying and deciding that it was your fault they died. 'WAAAH PUNISH' standings loss You may be firing at an enemy when a bluedot flies out of nowhere and stands in front of you on 3 armour. They will, of course, decide it's your fault they died. 'WAAAH PUNISH' standings loss Despite the awesome orbital changes, I'll never use one again. If I do, my standings will get wrecked because some moron blueberry charged into the massive rays of death coming from the sky and decided that it was my fault he died. 'WAAAH PUNISH' standings loss kicked Mentioned this before. Pretty easy to screw someone over in FW. So about those vehicle locks...
Kane Fyea 2313	Posted - 2013.12.03 19:40:00 - [8] - Quote I just realized that in FW no one will use core locus grenades. I might start playing fw more.
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 572	Posted - 2013.12.03 19:40:00 - [9] - Quote What could possibly go wrong? "The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu Amarr victor!
Kane Fyea 2313	Posted - 2013.12.03 19:40:00 - [10] - Quote Dunk Mujunk wrote: Not really. How many team killing alts will pepper FW? I think a bunch. We will see. I believe you can only team kill once before you get kicked out until downtime (For an alt at least)

Reav Hannari Red Rock Outriders 2055	Posted - 2013.12.03 19:41:00 - [11] - Quote Dunk Mujunk wrote: Not really. How many team killing alts will pepper FW? I think a bunch. We will see. We'll see how long the TK crowd wants to either grind standings before they go on a rampage or how often they want to relog or even switch PSN accounts in order to make that one TK before they have to repeat the process. My guess is it'll get old fast. // Matari Warrior // Logistics / Scout / Dropship Crash Tester // @ReesNoturana
CLONE117 planetary retaliation organisation 494	Posted - 2013.12.03 19:44:00 - [12] - Quote maybe friendly fire damage could be cut in half so it isnt as deadly. obs would still kill and so would everything else it would just bring down the tk amounts a little...hopefully. other than that fw should force players into team chat. so we can see communication going on during the battles.
Ivy Zalinto Bobbit's Hangmen 74	Posted - 2013.12.03 19:53:00 - [13] - Quote Luckily im not around teammates that often anyway. Stealth scouts running around behind the enemy mainline to mess with them. Cant wait for ewar stuff honestly. Im all for the new faction war changes and am in fact excited about it. Dedicated scout. Caldari loyalist. Pistol supremacy.
Jason-Anthony Testa Death Firm. 2	Posted - 2013.12.03 19:56:00 - [14] - Quote every other game has ff and tk's get you in trouble , it's part of the game genre, dust has been lucky to not have it before. i'm glad because now it'll hopefully put a stop to pray an spray players that dont know how to get kills with out shooting from behind and through teammates, and random grenade throwing It sux when you get tk'd right at the wrong moment(not that theres really a good time for it) or you have the perfect shot and a blueberry jumps in front of you blocking the shot and not costing you some points, but you play better the next game and get the points you lost back, it'll just make good players better and hopefully new players better. Because now instead of just ignoring blueberries or getting mad you can interact and help them out. Oh and lets not forget we all were blue at some point too. OMG this blueberry just jumped in my tank and ran me over with it WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! A Little Violence Never Hurt Anyone! Benjamin Ruggiero, "Lefty Two Guns"
Dunk Mujunk RestlessSpirits 355	Posted - 2013.12.03 19:57:00 - [15] - Quote Kane Fyea wrote: I believe you can only team kill once before you get kicked out until downtime (For an alt at least) So one stray grenade, or one blue dot jumping in front of my crosshairs and i'm out of FW for the day?
Sigberct Amni Goonfeet Top Men. 247	Posted - 2013.12.03 19:58:00 - [16] - Quote Dunk Mujunk wrote: Not really. How many team killing alts will pepper FW? I think a bunch. We will see. After a set number of TK's, you get booted from the match. You can't play FW until next downtime if that happens. It's based on standing 'levels' for example, at standings level four, it takes two TK's in one match to boot you from FW till next downtime.
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 2655	Posted - 2013.12.03 19:59:00 - [17] - Quote I use a mass driver........ Sinboto - The True Blood Minja. Forum Warrior level 2 STB-Infantry (Demolition)
Jadd Hatchen Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 104	Posted - 2013.12.03 20:00:00 - [18] - Quote Dunk Mujunk wrote: Kane Fyea wrote: I believe you can only team kill once before you get kicked out until downtime (For an alt at least) So one stray grenade, or one blue dot jumping in front of my crosshairs and i'm out of FW for the day? Not if you are higher than level 1 standing with that faction. Please try to read and understand how the whole process works before you thin the worst of it.
Rogue Saint Science For Death 567	Posted - 2013.12.03 20:01:00 - [19] - Quote It will be nice to all the idiots leave FW to those that know how to be team focused. Sure the first few days/weeks will be interesting. but eventually those idiots will realise that they have to up their game or GTFO. GôêGÆ+GÆ+GÆ¦ - Bringing the dakka [The whiny Scout]
Sigberct Amni Goonfeet Top Men. 247	Posted - 2013.12.03 20:01:00 - [20] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: I use a mass driver........ Oh no, you can't spam it off a high tower at a crowd of people anymore. M-m-muh driver spam! Abloo abloo bloooooo blooo

Dunk Mujunk RestlessSpirits 356	Posted - 2013.12.03 20:02:00 - [21] - Quote Sigberct Amni wrote: After a set number of TK's, you get booted from the match. You can't play FW until next downtime if that happens. It's based on standing 'levels' for example, at standings level four, it takes two TK's in one match to boot you from FW till next downtime. So the worst case scenario would be a squad of TKers can eliminate 12 clones, then your team would lose 6 members. I guess thats not too bad, and Reav is hopefully right. Thats a lot of work for trolling.
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 5734	Posted - 2013.12.03 20:03:00 - [22] - Quote Rogue Saint wrote: It will be nice to all the idiots leave FW to those that know how to be team focused. Sure the first few days/weeks will be interesting. but eventually those idiots will realise that they have to up their game or GTFO. Mhrm. Then realise that you can't actually play FW much because you can't get the gear you need, even if you're running militia. Level 5 Forum Warrior Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution Supporter of CCP raRaRa.
Dunk Mujunk RestlessSpirits 356	Posted - 2013.12.03 20:05:00 - [23] - Quote Jadd Hatchen wrote: Not if you are higher than level 1 standing with that faction. Please try to read and understand how the whole process works before you thin the worst of it. No ned to be a d*ck about it. You gonna go after everyone else asking questions? You spelled think wrong.
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 2655	Posted - 2013.12.03 20:06:00 - [24] - Quote Sigberct Amni wrote: Sinboto Simmons wrote: I use a mass driver........ Oh no, you can't spam it off a high tower at a crowd of people anymore. M-m-muh driver spam! Abloo abloo bloooooo blooo I don't do that, I prefer being on the ground due to my fear of hights, I'm insulted you accused me of such a practice. Sinboto - The True Blood Minja. Forum Warrior level 2 STB-Infantry (Demolition)
Your Absolut End SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 256	Posted - 2013.12.03 20:09:00 - [25] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: calisk galern wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: GG. Aside from the vast amounts of griefing that's going to happen, serious play will get wrecked by this. Throw a grenade? A blueberry will be drawn to it magically. They may even stare at it for a few moments before dying and deciding that it was your fault they died. 'WAAAH PUNISH' standings loss You may be firing at an enemy when a bluedot flies out of nowhere and stands in front of you on 3 armour. They will, of course, decide it's your fault they died. 'WAAAH PUNISH' standings loss Despite the awesome orbital changes, I'll never use one again. If I do, my standings will get wrecked because some moron blueberry charged into the massive rays of death coming from the sky and decided that it was my fault he died. 'WAAAH PUNISH' standings loss kicked not really that hard.... it will be easy to avoid blueberries that want to jump in front of your shots, but more importantly just watch your own ass and use them as cover. use fluxes if needed, but ya you shouldn't be using grenades when teamates are around anyway, this is standard pc practice. third and most importantly que sync your team deploys, this should resolve most of your issues. Do you often Q-sync? Do you know how much of a pain it is? And you still get some blueberries, unless you Q-sync your entire team which has an astronomically low chance of happening. We do it quiet often, works in roughly 1-3 deploys, even with a full team. another one bites the Dust...
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 5735	Posted - 2013.12.03 20:13:00 - [26] - Quote Your Absolut End wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: calisk galern wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: GG. Aside from the vast amounts of griefing that's going to happen, serious play will get wrecked by this. Throw a grenade? A blueberry will be drawn to it magically. They may even stare at it for a few moments before dying and deciding that it was your fault they died. 'WAAAH PUNISH' standings loss You may be firing at an enemy when a bluedot flies out of nowhere and stands in front of you on 3 armour. They will, of course, decide it's your fault they died. 'WAAAH PUNISH' standings loss Despite the awesome orbital changes, I'll never use one again. If I do, my standings will get wrecked because some moron blueberry charged into the massive rays of death coming from the sky and decided that it was my fault he died. 'WAAAH PUNISH' standings loss kicked not really that hard.... it will be easy to avoid blueberries that want to jump in front of your shots, but more importantly just watch your own ass and use them as cover. use fluxes if needed, but ya you shouldn't be using grenades when teamates are around anyway, this is standard pc practice. third and most importantly que sync your team deploys, this should resolve most of your issues. Do you often Q-sync? Do you know how much of a pain it is? And you still get some blueberries, unless you Q-sync your entire team which has an astronomically low chance of happening. We do it quiet often, works in roughly 1-3 deploys, even with a full team. Really? What front? Gallente/Caldari or Minmatar/Amarr? On the Gallente/Caldari it's a nightmare to do and we rarely get 2 squads in. Level 5 Forum Warrior Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution Supporter of CCP raRaRa.
Rogue Saint Science For Death 570	Posted - 2013.12.04 01:27:00 - [27] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Rogue Saint wrote: It will be nice to all the idiots leave FW to those that know how to be team focused. Sure the first few days/weeks will be interesting. but eventually those idiots will realise that they have to up their game or GTFO. Mhrm. Then realise that you can't actually play FW much because you can't get the gear you need, even if you're running militia. I'm not poor... GôêGÆ+GÆ+GÆ¦ - Bringing the dakka [The whiny Scout]
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 590	Posted - 2013.12.04 01:34:00 - [28] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Your Absolut End wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: calisk galern wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: GG. Aside from the vast amounts of griefing that's going to happen, serious play will get wrecked by this. Throw a grenade? A blueberry will be drawn to it magically. They may even stare at it for a few moments before dying and deciding that it was your fault they died. 'WAAAH PUNISH' standings loss You may be firing at an enemy when a bluedot flies out of nowhere and stands in front of you on 3 armour. They will, of course, decide it's your fault they died. 'WAAAH PUNISH' standings loss Despite the awesome orbital changes, I'll never use one again. If I do, my standings will get wrecked because some moron blueberry charged into the massive rays of death coming from the sky and decided that it was my fault he died. 'WAAAH PUNISH' standings loss kicked not really that hard.... it will be easy to avoid blueberries that want to jump in front of your shots, but more importantly just watch your own ass and use them as cover. use fluxes if needed, but ya you shouldn't be using grenades when teamates are around anyway, this is standard pc practice. third and most importantly que sync your team deploys, this should resolve most of your issues. Do you often Q-sync? Do you know how much of a pain it is? And you still get some blueberries, unless you Q-sync your entire team which has an astronomically low chance of happening. We do it quiet often, works in roughly 1-3 deploys, even with a full team. Really? What front? Gallente/Caldari or Minmatar/Amarr? On the Gallente/Caldari it's a nightmare to do and we rarely get 2 squads in. We q sync in Caldari quite frequently, it requires some patience but it's not that difficult. "The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu Amarr victor!
negative49er Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 368	Posted - 2013.12.04 01:43:00 - [29] - Quote I have feeling that core locus grenade spam is going to decline fast in FW One day my shotgun will run out ammo 1.7 is the day if I fight or i give up
Michael Arck Anubis Prime Syndicate 1965	Posted - 2013.12.04 01:49:00 - [30] - Quote That's why you say on Team comms, "grenade out"...or "throwing a flux" Don't this gets old? Everytime CCP brings something new, the forum always react with "OH GOD, THEY WILL MESS IT UP". I mean, really, do you just continue firing until the blueberry is dead? C'mon people, have some damn faith for at least once. Some of you really know how to whine and complain about the promise of a new day...



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