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Killar-12
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Posted - 2013.12.02 21:50:00 -
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CharCharOdell wrote:Maybe back when armor was garbage, it made sense, but now a basic armor plate is more protective than a basic extender. The tradeoff is passive shield regen. With this in mind, their costs need to be equalized because its putting MN and CA at a disadvantage.
OR lets wait for the TTK to get rebalanced... still the PG on the extenders might need a little whack down to
3 PG MLT
2 PG STD
4 PG ADV
7 PG PRO
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Posted - 2013.12.03 00:03:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Even when TTK gets sorted out, shields are most likely going to be lacking. Here's 2 Ideas I've been musing over:
Make suits work like EVE ships (with minor tweaks)
Minmitar/Caldari suits = High CPU, Low PG
Gallente suits = Low CPU, High PG
Amarr suits = Moderately high CPU/PG
Shield Modules = High CPU, Low PG
Armor Modules = High PG, Low CPU
CPU enhancers draw PG to add CPU
Make damage mods low slot modules
Add passive damage control high slot modules with 3/5/10% resistance to all damage moderatly high CPU/PG
Remaining PG in a fitting adds +1% shield recharge rate per unit
Remaining CPU reduces recharge delay by -1% per unit
Buff shields and add a penalty
-33/66/99 across the extender tiers
-Add a 3/5/10% penalty to recharge/depleted delay across the tiers
-Buff each suit's base shield recharge by 10 and lower recharge/depleted delay by 2/3
-Make energizers add a flat bonus to shield recharge rate by 5/10/20 with the current penalties to base shield
Only if Red bottles (AB's/MWD's) and Green Bottles (Cap Batteries I guess)are made high slots
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Killar-12
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Posted - 2013.12.03 02:51:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Killar-12 wrote:[quote=Cosgar]Even when TTK gets sorted out, shields are most likely going to be lacking. Here's 2 Ideas I've been musing over:
Make suits work like EVE ships (with minor tweaks)
Minmitar/Caldari suits = High CPU, Low PG
Gallente suits = Low CPU, High PG
Amarr suits = Moderately high CPU/PG
Shield Modules = High CPU, Low PG
Armor Modules = High PG, Low CPU
CPU enhancers draw PG to add CPU
Make damage mods low slot modules
Add passive damage control high slot modules with 3/5/10% resistance to all damage moderatly high CPU/PG
Remaining PG in a fitting adds +1% shield recharge rate per unit
Remaining CPU reduces recharge delay by -1% per unit
Buff shields and add a penalty
-33/66/99 across the extender tiers
-Add a 3/5/10% penalty to recharge/depleted delay across the tiers
-Buff each suit's base shield recharge by 10 and lower recharge/depleted delay by 2/3
-Make energizers add a flat bonus to shield recharge rate by 5/10/20 with the current penalties to base shield
Only if Red bottles (AB's/MWD's) and Green Bottles (Cap Batteries I guess)are made high slots
Make all electronics modules high slots.
Agreed but send Biotics to the Highs too...
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Posted - 2013.12.03 16:27:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Cosgar wrote:Even when TTK gets sorted out, shields are most likely going to be lacking. Here's 2 Ideas I've been musing over:
Make suits work like EVE ships (with minor tweaks)
Minmitar/Caldari suits = High CPU, Low PG
Gallente suits = Low CPU, High PG
Amarr suits = Moderately high CPU/PG
Shield Modules = High CPU, Low PG
Armor Modules = High PG, Low CPU
CPU enhancers draw PG to add CPU
Make damage mods low slot modules
Add passive damage control high slot modules with 3/5/10% resistance to all damage moderatly high CPU/PG
Remaining PG in a fitting adds +1% shield recharge rate per unit
Remaining CPU reduces recharge delay by -1% per unit
Buff shields and add a penalty
-33/66/99 across the extender tiers
-Add a 3/5/10% penalty to recharge/depleted delay across the tiers
-Buff each suit's base shield recharge by 10 and lower recharge/depleted delay by 2/3
-Make energizers add a flat bonus to shield recharge rate by 5/10/20 with the current penalties to base shield
Cosgar. PLEASE stop posting that HORRIBLE suggestion. 99 hp on complex plates = Caldari assaults with 750 shields. That's more than any of my Gallente assaults can get with armor, wtf.
109x4=436+260=696 with maxed skills
still a gal can get arond 850 if they sacrifice reps
even with 1 rep they get 700
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Posted - 2013.12.03 17:16:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Killar-12 wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Cosgar wrote:Even when TTK gets sorted out, shields are most likely going to be lacking. Here's 2 Ideas I've been musing over:
Make suits work like EVE ships (with minor tweaks)
Minmitar/Caldari suits = High CPU, Low PG
Gallente suits = Low CPU, High PG
Amarr suits = Moderately high CPU/PG
Shield Modules = High CPU, Low PG
Armor Modules = High PG, Low CPU
CPU enhancers draw PG to add CPU
Make damage mods low slot modules
Add passive damage control high slot modules with 3/5/10% resistance to all damage moderatly high CPU/PG
Remaining PG in a fitting adds +1% shield recharge rate per unit
Remaining CPU reduces recharge delay by -1% per unit
Buff shields and add a penalty
-33/66/99 across the extender tiers
-Add a 3/5/10% penalty to recharge/depleted delay across the tiers
-Buff each suit's base shield recharge by 10 and lower recharge/depleted delay by 2/3
-Make energizers add a flat bonus to shield recharge rate by 5/10/20 with the current penalties to base shield
Cosgar. PLEASE stop posting that HORRIBLE suggestion. 99 hp on complex plates = Caldari assaults with 750 shields. That's more than any of my Gallente assaults can get with armor, wtf. 109x4=436+260=696 with maxed skills still a gal can get arond 850 if they sacrifice reps even with 1 rep they get 700 IF sacrificing reps, and IF they use a ****** suit with no equipment, standard weapons and ****** stuff in high slots. A Caldari Assault at level V has a shield recharge rate of 31hp/s. Also, your math is slightly wrong, it's 700 HP. So basically, a Caldari Assault would get comparable HP, no speed penalty, and HUGELY more reps? Are you joking? Also, no one uses Complex plates on Gallente assaults, they're too expensive CPU/PG wise, and unlike Caldari we can't use CPU/PG extenders.
Why not buff the Gal Assault then? the suit needs some serious help.
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