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Ghosts Chance
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Posted - 2013.12.02 05:03:00 -
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Logi
ANYONE who uses a logistics suit for ANY purpose whatsoever
-logictics is a SUIT
-medic is a playstyle
-not all people wearing logistics suits are medics
i suggest you all keep this in mind when you write your logi QQ threads
now if your complaint is that you believe all logis should be medics i suggest you instead make petition threads demanding each suit come with a rep tool and stabby stick manditory, and that the name should be changed to medic.
because thats that only way any of your bitching is validated.
yes im a logi, no im not a medic.
but i will still give you some presents in the form of remote explosives, because my class is "Demolitions" not logi, and certainly not medic.
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Posted - 2013.12.02 05:08:00 -
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Zekain K wrote:YOU'RE YOU'RE YOU'RE YOU'RE YOU'RE YOU'RE YOU'RE YOU'RE YOU'RE
Good god.
thats about 7 too many corrections. |
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Posted - 2013.12.02 05:11:00 -
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ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals wrote:Logistics is a role.
Just SSJ.
then whats a plane ole medium frame? a role as well?
your not technically wrong, but within this context you are.
as any suit can fulfil any role. (however bad at it they may be they can still fill that role) |
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Posted - 2013.12.02 05:21:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:The standard was set in EVE with Logistics ships that are designed for fleet support, hence the assumption that Logistics on the ground would echo that same sentiment.
its funny though because when push comes to shove in eve they use carriers and super carriers for the reps :P
the logistics ships are only really used in incursions/multiboxing/small gang/netural rep trolling/
so really EvE set the standard for things not being used in ways that their name would suggest. |
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Posted - 2013.12.02 05:24:00 -
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ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals wrote:Logistics is a role.
Just SSJ. then whats a plane ole medium frame? a role as well? your not technically wrong, but within this context you are. as any suit can fulfil any role. (however bad at it they may be they can still fill that role) A medium frame is a suit. It has no definition other than "a medium-framed dropsuit." The "logistics" in the title of the logistics suit is basically a descriptive of what the logistics suit does...which is logistics. Your bringing remote explosives for deployment to the battlefield. You are combat-logistics.
int he real world logistics is a open ended catch all for "the **** that happens behind the curtain" aka how goods get from point A to point B
i know becuase ive worked in "logistics" for 5 years
and ill tell ya if you really want loading an unloading trailers to be a role in DUST514 then your welcome to make a petition in for that.
in real world military practics the "logistics" role is typically people who arnt put directly into combat, and you certainly wouldnt want them in your 16 man kill squad your sending in, they are more likely to be the ones flying the warbarge and maintaining the RDVs. the mechanic that works on the hummer is logistics, not the guy who drives it.
as for your logic, if "logistics" is a role because the suit is named that then "medium frame" is also a role |
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Posted - 2013.12.02 05:43:00 -
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ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals wrote:Logistics is a role.
Just SSJ. then whats a plane ole medium frame? a role as well? your not technically wrong, but within this context you are. as any suit can fulfil any role. (however bad at it they may be they can still fill that role) A medium frame is a suit. It has no definition other than "a medium-framed dropsuit." The "logistics" in the title of the logistics suit is basically a descriptive of what the logistics suit does...which is logistics. Your bringing remote explosives for deployment to the battlefield. You are combat-logistics. int he real world logistics is a open ended catch all for "the **** that happens behind the curtain" aka how goods get from point A to point B i know becuase ive worked in "logistics" for 5 years and ill tell ya if you really want loading an unloading trailers to be a role in DUST514 then your welcome to make a petition in for that. as for your logic, if "logistics" is a role because the suit is named that then "medium frame" is also a role  My logic is that the thing that separates a logistics suit from every other suit is the multiple equipment slots. Every single one has more than one. Equipment in this game is meant to assist the team in some fashion (for now). Logistics is maintenance, supplying, making sure **** gets to where it needs to be. You've worked the occupation for 5 years; you should know it's more than loading and unloading trailers.
most importantly, logistics is behind the scenes, not front lines.
real world logistics personal are not intended for combat.
and please tell me how my remote explsives do or dont help the team in some way :P
if you argue that they do help the team, then the same would be tru for literally any equipment a "slayer" logi would use
and if they dont help the team, then your opinion would be that my chosen class of "demolitions" isnt valid |
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Posted - 2013.12.02 05:48:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:Logistics means versatality not support or whatever. Completely agree there.
The idea is that logistics are supposed to be good at all sorts of things and not just one specific thing. Heavies are good at defense, assaults are good at killing, scouts are good at being sneaky...Logistics are somewhat decent at all of those things, just not great in one area.
The problem is that the extra module slots that let them be versatile are used to just stack health and damage with very little downsides for using 3 or more modules.
actually l;ogistics means
1. The aspect of military operations that deals with the procurement, distribution, maintenance, and replacement of materiel and personnel.
2. The management of the details of an operation.
and a suit that functioned as the name suggests would be a suit that stayed in the warbarge repairing the RDVs
technically the warbarge is more in line with the "logistics" name then the suit is |
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Posted - 2013.12.02 06:02:00 -
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ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:most importantly, logistics is behind the scenes, not front lines.
real world logistics personal are not intended for combat.
and please tell me how my remote explsives do or dont help the team in some way :P
if you argue that they do help the team, then the same would be tru for literally any equipment a "slayer" logi would use
and if they dont help the team, then your opinion would be that my chosen class of "demolitions" isnt valid "not intended for front lines" is not in the description or definition for logistics. I know that Dust 514 is a training simulator imposed by the government for the secret space-marine program, but lets pretend for a second that Dust 514 isn't an accurate depiction of real life. Your remote explosives can be used to blow up enemy equipment or multiple enemies, both of which are negatives to your team's efforts. This is obviously not true of all equipment since they can't blow things up. It IS true that all equipment can be used to help the team. Your demolitions fitting is valid. It is also logistics. If a killer-bee is using equipment, it can still be beneficial to the team. You'll notice that they, most popularly, put down small hives that produce a pheromone over a certain area that attracts all of the other insects on their side of the field.
you may want to look up the definition of "logistics" i have copyed it into OP for your convenience
and not intended for combat is more a consequence of its nature and ratehr then specifically stated its kinda just assumed because why the hell would you want to send your supply train into combat on purpose. even better why would you want to send the guy behind the desk managing your supply lines into combat... on purpose...
you would naturally want to get your very important cargo where its going while AVOIDING combat as much as humanly possable
what you wouldnt do is chuck 16 of yoru favorite desk jokeys, dock worrkers, fed-ex drivers down into the middle of a combat zone unless you literally had no other option. |
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Posted - 2013.12.02 06:16:00 -
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ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:1. The aspect of military operations that deals with the procurement, distribution, maintenance, and replacement of materiel and personnel.
2. The management of the details of an operation.
If only we had equipment that could perform maintenance on dropsuits, distribute ammunition to teammates, and provide info on the more detailed aspects of our operations like enemy troop and equipment placement. OH, IF ONLY! If only we had a suit that could capitalize on these logistical abilities, perhaps by having extra equipment slots to utilize multiple pieces of this theoretical equipment. But what would we call them...
lol :P
you are correct! yay you knwo what it means!
except providing info ala scanner is intellegence not logistics. |
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Posted - 2013.12.02 06:17:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:The standard was set in EVE with Logistics ships that are designed for fleet support, hence the assumption that Logistics on the ground would echo that same sentiment. God forbid that this game corresponds with EVE logic. Because that would be just silly 
in EvE carriers provide the reps in the huge battles, not logistics ships....
so EvE doesnt correspond to EvE logic |
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