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Son-Of A-Gun 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 472	Posted - 2013.12.02 03:49:00 - [1] - Quote Some type of ability to adjust the lasor focus (or, where the lasor has its optimal) and this mechanic should be adjustable on the fly/in-game. Also, one should be able to adjust the optimal itself, smaller optimal higher damage output. To balance this out the higher damage setting should be at greater ranges and the closer one focuses the optimal to the user, results in a loss of damage output. You know this would be totally amazing. {:)}{3GÇó>
DeadlyAztec11 2449	Posted - 2013.12.02 03:52:00 - [2] - Quote Like a microscope? With different gears to adjust the focus of the crystal? The only thing I dislike about this idea is that I did not think of it ;D Well done :) By the by, spell check your title. Madness is the emergency exit. You can just step outside, and close the door on all those dreadful things that happened.
Son-Of A-Gun 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 475	Posted - 2013.12.02 04:28:00 - [3] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Like a microscope? With different gears to adjust the focus of the crystal? Yup just like that. {:)}{3GÇó>
xxwhitedevilxx M Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn 1157	Posted - 2013.12.02 04:30:00 - [4] - Quote Son-Of A-Gun wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Like a microscope? With different gears to adjust the focus of the crystal? Yup just like that. Really like it. . __ `/.)\ spamming these = you have no opinion in anything Dust 514 related` \ __ /
Son-Of A-Gun 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 476	Posted - 2013.12.02 04:50:00 - [5] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: By the by, spell check your title. You wouldn't be tryin' ta stop me from firin' ma "lasor", now would ya? {:)}{3GÇó>
KING CHECKMATE AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS 2662	Posted - 2013.12.02 04:54:00 - [6] - Quote Son-Of A-Gun wrote: Some type of ability to adjust the lasor focus (or, where the lasor has its optimal) and this mechanic should be adjustable on the fly/in-game. Also, one should be able to adjust the optimal itself, smaller optimal higher damage output. To balance this out the higher damage setting should be at greater ranges and the closer one focuses the optimal to the user, results in a loss of damage output. You know this would be totally amazing. I would Adjust it to 2 mts! Light saber! COME TO THE AMARR SIDE ! BZZZ BZZZZZZZ Support SCOUTS : https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=124408&find=unread
Joel II X AHPA 261	Posted - 2013.12.02 04:56:00 - [7] - Quote Son-Of A-Gun wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: By the by, spell check your title. You wouldn't be tryin' ta stop me from firin' ma "lasor", now would ya? Lazor* kind sir.
Son-Of A-Gun 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 476	Posted - 2013.12.02 05:01:00 - [8] - Quote Joel II X wrote: Son-Of A-Gun wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: By the by, spell check your title. You wouldn't be tryin' ta stop me from firin' ma "lasor", now would ya? Lazor* kind sir. Alright, but only cause I like yours better. {:)}{3GÇó>
Zero Harpuia Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 1282	Posted - 2013.12.02 07:14:00 - [9] - Quote I's like to point out that this could work as part of a broader ammo system. The weapons in EVE use many different payloads, loosely divided into 'charge groups.' Lasers use Crystals, but they function more like a film you slide over a projector. Each has a different range profile as the main selling point, with the longer reaching ones doing more shield damage and the shorter ranges having more armor-piercing power, usually swapped rapidly over the course of a battle as you and your enemy close in. Just a thought if you would consider it. I could make a thread on it if you wish, I haven't seen any big threads about ammo yet. Shields as Weapons
Aesiron Kor-Azor Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 488	Posted - 2013.12.02 07:15:00 - [10] - Quote Son-Of A-Gun wrote: Some type of ability to adjust the lazor focus (or, where the lazor has its optimal) and this mechanic should be adjustable on the fly/in-game. Also, one should be able to adjust the optimal itself, smaller optimal higher damage output. To balance this out the higher damage setting should be at greater ranges and the closer one focuses the optimal to the user, results in a loss of damage output. You know this would be totally amazing. or how about different frequency crystals... like in EVE? your mom

Zero Harpuia Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 1282	Posted - 2013.12.02 07:22:00 - [11] - Quote Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote: Son-Of A-Gun wrote: Some type of ability to adjust the lazor focus (or, where the lazor has its optimal) and this mechanic should be adjustable on the fly/in-game. Also, one should be able to adjust the optimal itself, smaller optimal higher damage output. To balance this out the higher damage setting should be at greater ranges and the closer one focuses the optimal to the user, results in a loss of damage output. You know this would be totally amazing. or how about different frequency crystals... like in EVE? Beat you to your own game Amarr scum :3 ...cue the inevitable in-character PIE backlash... Shields as Weapons
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 1147	Posted - 2013.12.02 07:30:00 - [12] - Quote The Laser Rifle is a strange one indeed. I worry that allow you to modify would optimal range would make other rifles obsolete. ADS Reports - Defining Racial Themes
byte modal Algintal Core Gallente Federation 48	Posted - 2013.12.02 07:43:00 - [13] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Son-Of A-Gun wrote: Some type of ability to adjust the lasor focus (or, where the lasor has its optimal) and this mechanic should be adjustable on the fly/in-game. Also, one should be able to adjust the optimal itself, smaller optimal higher damage output. To balance this out the higher damage setting should be at greater ranges and the closer one focuses the optimal to the user, results in a loss of damage output. You know this would be totally amazing. I would Adjust it to 2 mts! Light saber! COME TO THE AMARR SIDE ! BZZZ BZZZZZZZ I lol'd. for real :) and even mimed the hand motion as I sounded-out your "bzz bzzzzzz" effect. gosh.
Zero Harpuia Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 1283	Posted - 2013.12.02 07:46:00 - [14] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: The Laser Rifle is a strange one indeed. I worry that allow you to modify would optimal range would make other rifles obsolete. Remember, the other Rifles are effective UP TO their Optimal. The Laser Rifle is only effective AT its optimal. Shields as Weapons
byte modal Algintal Core Gallente Federation 48	Posted - 2013.12.02 07:47:00 - [15] - Quote Zero Harpuia wrote: I's like to point out that this could work as part of a broader ammo system. The weapons in EVE use many different payloads, loosely divided into 'charge groups.' Lasers use Crystals, but they function more like a film you slide over a projector. Each has a different range profile as the main selling point, with the longer reaching ones doing more shield damage and the shorter ranges having more armor-piercing power, usually swapped rapidly over the course of a battle as you and your enemy close in. Just a thought if you would consider it. I could make a thread on it if you wish, I haven't seen any big threads about ammo yet. I'd love to see EVE type ammo work its way into Dust. That would change the landscape for sure.
daishi mk03 BLACK-GUARD Die Fremdenlegion 445	Posted - 2013.12.02 07:51:00 - [16] - Quote I expect lazors of the future to adjust their optimal range automatically, like they do it today already To know the true path, but yet, to never follow it. That is possibly the gravest sin. The Scriptures,Book of Missions
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 1149	Posted - 2013.12.02 07:55:00 - [17] - Quote Zero Harpuia wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: The Laser Rifle is a strange one indeed. I worry that allow you to modify would optimal range would make other rifles obsolete. Remember, the other Rifles are effective UP TO their Optimal. The Laser Rifle is only effective AT its optimal. Fair enough. Still not sure how I feel about being able to change it on the fly, but perhaps variants that have different optimal ranges? ADS Reports - Defining Racial Themes
Echoist Fenrir's Wolves Zero-Day 91	Posted - 2013.12.02 07:59:00 - [18] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: Zero Harpuia wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: The Laser Rifle is a strange one indeed. I worry that allow you to modify would optimal range would make other rifles obsolete. Remember, the other Rifles are effective UP TO their Optimal. The Laser Rifle is only effective AT its optimal. Fair enough. Still not sure how I feel about being able to change it on the fly, but perhaps variants that have different optimal ranges? I'd say to balance it out have it take some time to adjust so that players can't abuse it. +1 to the OP.
Son-Of A-Gun 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 478	Posted - 2013.12.02 08:04:00 - [19] - Quote daishi mk03 wrote: I expect lazors of the future to adjust their optimal range automatically, like they do it today already Oh yah, well it's a little more complicated than that. Why you ask? Because I say. {:)}{3GÇó>
Son-Of A-Gun 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 478	Posted - 2013.12.02 08:08:00 - [20] - Quote I like the idea of adjustable focus more than ammo types. I want it to be something that can be adjusted on the fly, and ammo types seem like they would be something that would be selected from the dropsuit fittings tool, or weapons fitting tool, which ever. {:)}{3GÇó>

Son-Of A-Gun 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 482	Posted - 2013.12.02 08:12:00 - [21] - Quote Echoist wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: Zero Harpuia wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: The Laser Rifle is a strange one indeed. I worry that allow you to modify would optimal range would make other rifles obsolete. Remember, the other Rifles are effective UP TO their Optimal. The Laser Rifle is only effective AT its optimal. Fair enough. Still not sure how I feel about being able to change it on the fly, but perhaps variants that have different optimal ranges? I'd say to balance it out have it take some time to adjust so that players can't abuse it. +1 to the OP. Yes the time to adjust would be a little bit of a balance factor, but if you read the second paragraph of the OP again you will see the best way to go about balancing it. {:)}{3GÇó>
Son-Of A-Gun 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 482	Posted - 2013.12.03 01:48:00 - [22] - Quote Shameless bump. {:)}{3GÇó>
Jakobi Wan Legions of Infinite Dominion 47	Posted - 2013.12.03 11:10:00 - [23] - Quote Son-Of A-Gun wrote: Some type of ability to adjust the lazor focus (or, where the lazor has its optimal) and this mechanic should be adjustable on the fly/in-game. Also, one should be able to adjust the optimal itself, smaller optimal higher damage output. To balance this out the higher damage setting should be at greater ranges and the closer one focuses the optimal to the user, results in a loss of damage output. You know this would be totally amazing. i've seen things like this done in portal using the ps move.. quiet interesting imo
Jakobi Wan Legions of Infinite Dominion 47	Posted - 2013.12.03 11:13:00 - [24] - Quote could incorporate the fire-toggle feature as well :) also for these "tac" or "burst" assault rifles or even maybe rail rifles / assault scrambler rifles and the new tactical rifles
Son-Of A-Gun 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 490	Posted - 2013.12.03 11:23:00 - [25] - Quote Jakobi Wan wrote: could incorporate the fire-toggle feature as well :) also for these "tac" or "burst" assault rifles or even maybe rail rifles / assault scrambler rifles and the new tactical rifles with this feature implemented thoroughly the regular scrambler rifles could effectively be used as kamikaze style "burst" scrambler rifles.. that'd be pretty wild It would have to be an energy weapon only type thing, because it wouldn't make sence for projectile type weapons such as rail tech and projectile tech. It's an interesting concept though. It would have to function differently with plasma tech though. {edit>>> I don't know, maybe I'm not properly understanding what you're trying to say? {:)}{3GÇó>
Akdhar Saif Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 87	Posted - 2013.12.03 11:29:00 - [26] - Quote Increased fitting requirements will have to be put in place to make it balanced. Otherwise you can simply fit another weapon type in your second slot and you'll be a "Master-of-all-trades"
Son-Of A-Gun 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 490	Posted - 2013.12.03 11:36:00 - [27] - Quote Akdhar Saif wrote: Increased fitting requirements will have to be put in place to make it balanced. Otherwise you can simply fit another weapon type in your second slot and you'll be a "Master-of-all-trades" I don't see why damage falloff at closer ranges wouldn't be a viable option. {:)}{3GÇó>
Echoist Fenrir's Wolves Zero-Day 94	Posted - 2013.12.05 16:21:00 - [28] - Quote Bump, just cause i feel CCP needs to take a good long hard look at some of these really good ideas in this thread.
Son-Of A-Gun 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 518	Posted - 2013.12.05 16:44:00 - [29] - Quote Echoist wrote: Bump, just cause i feel CCP needs to take a good long hard look at some of these really good ideas in this thread. Well, thank you kind sir or madam, which ever. {:)}{3GÇó>
Echoist Fenrir's Wolves Zero-Day 99	Posted - 2013.12.11 07:58:00 - [30] - Quote Bump... Again, you can't handle the noobasaures!!! Noobasaures: "Rawr"

Operative 1171 Aajli Bragian Order Amarr Empire 819	Posted - 2013.12.11 08:27:00 - [31] - Quote He said nob. Did you mean knob? Either way, you said knob. On a shiny Amarr laser rifle no less! Better keep it polished. Do your part. Join the revolution. Sabotage FW. Help this game burn! BURN DUST 2014
Son-Of A-Gun 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 620	Posted - 2013.12.11 08:33:00 - [32] - Quote Operative 1171 Aajli wrote: He said nob. Did you mean knob? Either way, you said knob. On a shiny Amarr laser rifle no less! Better keep it polished. What is this guy talking about. I clearly wrote "knob", Unless anybody can prove other wise. {:)}{3GÇó>
Echoist Fenrir's Wolves Zero-Day 99	Posted - 2013.12.11 19:47:00 - [33] - Quote Son-Of A-Gun wrote: Operative 1171 Aajli wrote: He said nob. Did you mean knob? Either way, you said knob. On a shiny Amarr laser rifle no less! Better keep it polished. What is this guy talking about. I clearly wrote "knob", Unless anybody can prove other wise. Sometimes dust has a way of bending the mind into insanity like that poor child lol. Noobasaures: "Rawr"
Son-Of A-Gun 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 966	Posted - 2014.01.17 05:28:00 - [34] - Quote Bump, for kicks. {:)}{3GÇó> Please help me save the Gal scout!: linky
Echoist Fenrir's Wolves 115	Posted - 2014.01.17 05:52:00 - [35] - Quote So I'm not trying to start a rumor or anything but I've heard from a couple people that there may be a laser rifle buff in 1.8... Anybody heard anything about this? Noobasaures: "Rawr" Laser Rifle Specialist, Rail Rifles... Lol fail Be safe, be orca safe.
Thumb Green Titans of Phoenix Legacy Rising 678	Posted - 2014.01.17 06:00:00 - [36] - Quote Another way to balance it would be with heat build up. When it's set for the longer range with it's higher damage have it build up heat faster; and when it's set for lower range with lower damage have it build up heat slower. CCP: Is it the most asinine way possible to do this? Yes. Then that's how we're doing it.
Bleeding Knight Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance 95	Posted - 2014.01.17 07:11:00 - [37] - Quote This sounds like a good idea. I'm thinking we could use a mechanic similar to BIOSHOCK where we can switch ammo types for our weapons this way we'll also need to buy ammo not just crystals for lasers. Just an idea.
Gemini Reynolds Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 138	Posted - 2014.01.17 07:20:00 - [38] - Quote daishi mk03 wrote: I expect lazors of the future to adjust their optimal range automatically, like they do it today already With a guiding (non-damaging) initial laser that might work, but would result in a delay before firing..
FEAR AndHATE WarRavens Auxiliaries League of Infamy 0	Posted - 2014.01.23 15:17:00 - [39] - Quote Son-Of A-Gun wrote: Some type of ability to adjust the lazor focus (or, where the lazor has its optimal) and this mechanic should be adjustable on the fly/in-game. Also, one should be able to adjust the optimal itself, smaller optimal higher damage output. To balance this out the higher damage setting should be at greater ranges and the closer one focuses the optimal to the user, results in a loss of damage output. You know this would be totally amazing. I like the idea, some games have guns like an M-16 with a M203 grenade launcher, they have to switch to the grenade launcher, this laser idea would work if you set it to 1x, 10x , 30x, meaning set it to close, med range, and long range. Would give us area denial at different ranges. +1 on this idea, great job.


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