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Son-Of A-Gun
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
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Posted - 2013.12.02 03:49:00 -
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Some type of ability to adjust the lasor focus (or, where the lasor has its optimal) and this mechanic should be adjustable on the fly/in-game. Also, one should be able to adjust the optimal itself, smaller optimal higher damage output.
To balance this out the higher damage setting should be at greater ranges and the closer one focuses the optimal to the user, results in a loss of damage output.
You know this would be totally amazing.
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DeadlyAztec11
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Posted - 2013.12.02 03:52:00 -
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Like a microscope? With different gears to adjust the focus of the crystal?
The only thing I dislike about this idea is that I did not think of it ;D
Well done :)
By the by, spell check your title.
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Son-Of A-Gun
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
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Posted - 2013.12.02 04:28:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Like a microscope? With different gears to adjust the focus of the crystal?
Yup just like that.
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xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn
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Posted - 2013.12.02 04:30:00 -
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Son-Of A-Gun wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Like a microscope? With different gears to adjust the focus of the crystal? Yup just like that.
Really like it.
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Son-Of A-Gun
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
476
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Posted - 2013.12.02 04:50:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:By the by, spell check your title.
You wouldn't be tryin' ta stop me from firin' ma "lasor", now would ya?
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KING CHECKMATE
AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS
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Posted - 2013.12.02 04:54:00 -
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Son-Of A-Gun wrote:Some type of ability to adjust the lasor focus (or, where the lasor has its optimal) and this mechanic should be adjustable on the fly/in-game. Also, one should be able to adjust the optimal itself, smaller optimal higher damage output.
To balance this out the higher damage setting should be at greater ranges and the closer one focuses the optimal to the user, results in a loss of damage output.
You know this would be totally amazing.
I would Adjust it to 2 mts! Light saber!
COME TO THE AMARR SIDE !
BZZZ BZZZZZZZ
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Joel II X
AHPA
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Posted - 2013.12.02 04:56:00 -
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Son-Of A-Gun wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:By the by, spell check your title. You wouldn't be tryin' ta stop me from firin' ma "lasor", now would ya? Lazor* kind sir. |
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Son-Of A-Gun
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
476
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Posted - 2013.12.02 05:01:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:Son-Of A-Gun wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:By the by, spell check your title. You wouldn't be tryin' ta stop me from firin' ma "lasor", now would ya? Lazor* kind sir.
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Alright, but only cause I like yours better.
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Zero Harpuia
Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance
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Posted - 2013.12.02 07:14:00 -
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I's like to point out that this could work as part of a broader ammo system. The weapons in EVE use many different payloads, loosely divided into 'charge groups.' Lasers use Crystals, but they function more like a film you slide over a projector. Each has a different range profile as the main selling point, with the longer reaching ones doing more shield damage and the shorter ranges having more armor-piercing power, usually swapped rapidly over the course of a battle as you and your enemy close in.
Just a thought if you would consider it. I could make a thread on it if you wish, I haven't seen any big threads about ammo yet.
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Aesiron Kor-Azor
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
488
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Posted - 2013.12.02 07:15:00 -
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Son-Of A-Gun wrote:Some type of ability to adjust the lazor focus (or, where the lazor has its optimal) and this mechanic should be adjustable on the fly/in-game. Also, one should be able to adjust the optimal itself, smaller optimal higher damage output.
To balance this out the higher damage setting should be at greater ranges and the closer one focuses the optimal to the user, results in a loss of damage output.
You know this would be totally amazing.
or how about different frequency crystals... like in EVE?
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Zero Harpuia
Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance
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Posted - 2013.12.02 07:22:00 -
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Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote:Son-Of A-Gun wrote:Some type of ability to adjust the lazor focus (or, where the lazor has its optimal) and this mechanic should be adjustable on the fly/in-game. Also, one should be able to adjust the optimal itself, smaller optimal higher damage output.
To balance this out the higher damage setting should be at greater ranges and the closer one focuses the optimal to the user, results in a loss of damage output.
You know this would be totally amazing. or how about different frequency crystals... like in EVE?
Beat you to your own game Amarr scum :3
...cue the inevitable in-character PIE backlash...
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.12.02 07:30:00 -
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The Laser Rifle is a strange one indeed. I worry that allow you to modify would optimal range would make other rifles obsolete.
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byte modal
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
48
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Posted - 2013.12.02 07:43:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Son-Of A-Gun wrote:Some type of ability to adjust the lasor focus (or, where the lasor has its optimal) and this mechanic should be adjustable on the fly/in-game. Also, one should be able to adjust the optimal itself, smaller optimal higher damage output.
To balance this out the higher damage setting should be at greater ranges and the closer one focuses the optimal to the user, results in a loss of damage output.
You know this would be totally amazing. I would Adjust it to 2 mts! Light saber!COME TO THE AMARR SIDE !BZZZ BZZZZZZZ
I lol'd. for real :) and even mimed the hand motion as I sounded-out your "bzz bzzzzzz" effect. gosh. |
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Zero Harpuia
Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance
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Posted - 2013.12.02 07:46:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:The Laser Rifle is a strange one indeed. I worry that allow you to modify would optimal range would make other rifles obsolete.
Remember, the other Rifles are effective UP TO their Optimal. The Laser Rifle is only effective AT its optimal.
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byte modal
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.12.02 07:47:00 -
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Zero Harpuia wrote:I's like to point out that this could work as part of a broader ammo system. The weapons in EVE use many different payloads, loosely divided into 'charge groups.' Lasers use Crystals, but they function more like a film you slide over a projector. Each has a different range profile as the main selling point, with the longer reaching ones doing more shield damage and the shorter ranges having more armor-piercing power, usually swapped rapidly over the course of a battle as you and your enemy close in.
Just a thought if you would consider it. I could make a thread on it if you wish, I haven't seen any big threads about ammo yet.
I'd love to see EVE type ammo work its way into Dust. That would change the landscape for sure. |
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daishi mk03
BLACK-GUARD Die Fremdenlegion
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Posted - 2013.12.02 07:51:00 -
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I expect lazors of the future to adjust their optimal range automatically, like they do it today already
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.12.02 07:55:00 -
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Zero Harpuia wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:The Laser Rifle is a strange one indeed. I worry that allow you to modify would optimal range would make other rifles obsolete. Remember, the other Rifles are effective UP TO their Optimal. The Laser Rifle is only effective AT its optimal.
Fair enough. Still not sure how I feel about being able to change it on the fly, but perhaps variants that have different optimal ranges?
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Echoist
Fenrir's Wolves Zero-Day
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Posted - 2013.12.02 07:59:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:Zero Harpuia wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:The Laser Rifle is a strange one indeed. I worry that allow you to modify would optimal range would make other rifles obsolete. Remember, the other Rifles are effective UP TO their Optimal. The Laser Rifle is only effective AT its optimal. Fair enough. Still not sure how I feel about being able to change it on the fly, but perhaps variants that have different optimal ranges? I'd say to balance it out have it take some time to adjust so that players can't abuse it. +1 to the OP. |
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Son-Of A-Gun
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
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Posted - 2013.12.02 08:04:00 -
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daishi mk03 wrote:I expect lazors of the future to adjust their optimal range automatically, like they do it today already
Oh yah, well it's a little more complicated than that. Why you ask? Because I say.
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Son-Of A-Gun
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
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Posted - 2013.12.02 08:08:00 -
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I like the idea of adjustable focus more than ammo types. I want it to be something that can be adjusted on the fly, and ammo types seem like they would be something that would be selected from the dropsuit fittings tool, or weapons fitting tool, which ever.
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Son-Of A-Gun
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
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Posted - 2013.12.02 08:12:00 -
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Echoist wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:Zero Harpuia wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:The Laser Rifle is a strange one indeed. I worry that allow you to modify would optimal range would make other rifles obsolete. Remember, the other Rifles are effective UP TO their Optimal. The Laser Rifle is only effective AT its optimal. Fair enough. Still not sure how I feel about being able to change it on the fly, but perhaps variants that have different optimal ranges? I'd say to balance it out have it take some time to adjust so that players can't abuse it. +1 to the OP.
Yes the time to adjust would be a little bit of a balance factor, but if you read the second paragraph of the OP again you will see the best way to go about balancing it.
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Son-Of A-Gun
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
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Posted - 2013.12.03 01:48:00 -
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Shameless bump.
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Jakobi Wan
Legions of Infinite Dominion
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Posted - 2013.12.03 11:10:00 -
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Son-Of A-Gun wrote:Some type of ability to adjust the lazor focus (or, where the lazor has its optimal) and this mechanic should be adjustable on the fly/in-game. Also, one should be able to adjust the optimal itself, smaller optimal higher damage output.
To balance this out the higher damage setting should be at greater ranges and the closer one focuses the optimal to the user, results in a loss of damage output.
You know this would be totally amazing.
i've seen things like this done in portal using the ps move.. quiet interesting imo
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Jakobi Wan
Legions of Infinite Dominion
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Posted - 2013.12.03 11:13:00 -
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could incorporate the fire-toggle feature as well :) also for these "tac" or "burst" assault rifles or even maybe rail rifles / assault scrambler rifles and the new tactical rifles |
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Son-Of A-Gun
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
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Posted - 2013.12.03 11:23:00 -
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Jakobi Wan wrote:could incorporate the fire-toggle feature as well :) also for these "tac" or "burst" assault rifles or even maybe rail rifles / assault scrambler rifles and the new tactical rifles
with this feature implemented thoroughly the regular scrambler rifles could effectively be used as kamikaze style "burst" scrambler rifles.. that'd be pretty wild
It would have to be an energy weapon only type thing, because it wouldn't make sence for projectile type weapons such as rail tech and projectile tech. It's an interesting concept though. It would have to function differently with plasma tech though.
{edit>>> I don't know, maybe I'm not properly understanding what you're trying to say?
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Akdhar Saif
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.12.03 11:29:00 -
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Increased fitting requirements will have to be put in place to make it balanced. Otherwise you can simply fit another weapon type in your second slot and you'll be a "Master-of-all-trades" |
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Son-Of A-Gun
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
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Posted - 2013.12.03 11:36:00 -
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Akdhar Saif wrote:Increased fitting requirements will have to be put in place to make it balanced. Otherwise you can simply fit another weapon type in your second slot and you'll be a "Master-of-all-trades"
I don't see why damage falloff at closer ranges wouldn't be a viable option.
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Echoist
Fenrir's Wolves Zero-Day
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Posted - 2013.12.05 16:21:00 -
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Bump, just cause i feel CCP needs to take a good long hard look at some of these really good ideas in this thread. |
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Son-Of A-Gun
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
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Posted - 2013.12.05 16:44:00 -
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Echoist wrote:Bump, just cause i feel CCP needs to take a good long hard look at some of these really good ideas in this thread.
Well, thank you kind sir or madam, which ever.
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Echoist
Fenrir's Wolves Zero-Day
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Posted - 2013.12.11 07:58:00 -
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Bump... Again, you can't handle the noobasaures!!!
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