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Sky Kage
Immortal Guides
567
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Posted - 2013.11.30 18:12:00 -
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I currently hit 5.5m total sp and was wondering what people considered to be a "seasoned" dustie?
I die alot AND have fun... Who knew?
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Mauren NOON
The Exemplars Top Men.
50
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Posted - 2013.11.30 18:13:00 -
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Sky Kage wrote:I currently hit 5.5m total sp and was wondering what people considered to be a "seasoned" dustie? At least 10mil |
Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
1464
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Posted - 2013.11.30 18:16:00 -
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A "seasoned" DUST 514 vet has around 10-20m SP. At 5.5m SP, I'd consider you to be average.
Now SP doesn't mean everything, because if you know what your doing and have a good ADV fit, you can stomp just as well as a 20-30m SP vet touting a Duvolle AR with a Logistics ck.0
As far as I'm concerned, WP is the only thing that truly matters. As WP is the only sure-fire way of determining how you contributed to the effort on the battlefield.
K/D is so miniscule it's laughable.
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Sky Kage
Immortal Guides
567
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Posted - 2013.11.30 18:17:00 -
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Atiim wrote:A "seasoned" DUST 514 vet has around 10-20m SP. At 5.5m SP, I'd consider you to be average.
Now SP doesn't mean everything, because if you know what your doing and have a good ADV fit, you can stomp just as well as a 20-30m SP vet touting a Duvolle AR with a Logistics ck.0
As far as I'm concerned, WP is the only thing that truly matters. As WP is the only sure-fire way of determining how you contributed to the effort on the battlefield.
K/D is so miniscule it's laughable. WP eh? well i have 432k total wp so far.
I die alot AND have fun... Who knew?
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
8152
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Posted - 2013.11.30 18:18:00 -
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Atiim wrote:As far as I'm concerned, WP is the only thing that truly matters. As WP is the only sure-fire way of determining how you contributed to the effort on the battlefield.
K/D is so miniscule it's laughable.
WP is also an illusion, with how easy it is to boost by simply placing an uplink and tagging someone around with a repper, occasionally stopping to lob a core locus grenade. I think most stats in this game are laughable, and you simply have to take each person case by case and see what they're doing, how they're working with the team, etc etc.
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Kovinis Sparagas
Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising
97
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Posted - 2013.11.30 18:19:00 -
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I'm passive player from early beta, and I have 10m SP
EDIT: early closed beta
I support BPO removal
and RDV to take your vehicles back
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR
F.T.U.
726
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Posted - 2013.11.30 18:19:00 -
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i would say...
noob 500,000 to 3,000,000
average 3,000,000 to 10,000,000
above average 10,000,000 to 15,000,000
vet 15,000,000+
or better yet, you're a vet if you played in open beta by now i guess...some would argue this, but i think this is about right. i'm personally at about 20 million.
Tell me, how exactly DOES a biscuit gain Valor?
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Hecarim Van Hohen
Knights of Eternal Darkness
305
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Posted - 2013.11.30 18:23:00 -
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Kovinis Sparagas wrote:I'm passive player from early beta, and I have 10m SP
Same here (closed beta) with 15.5mil SP and 1mil WP and a whooping 2.03K/D I'm still a scrub by all standards
Cheer up a bit will you
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
617
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Posted - 2013.11.30 18:25:00 -
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I have just under 10 mil on this account Biomassed an account at 9 mil Biomassed a few others (experiments in play style and stuff) Current alt sits at just over 3 mil So sometimes I am a noob, sometimes average, but never a vet
I shot a man in Black Rise onceGǪ Just to watch him die
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
8155
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Posted - 2013.11.30 18:26:00 -
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Hecarim Van Hohen wrote:Kovinis Sparagas wrote:I'm passive player from early beta, and I have 10m SP Same here (closed beta) with 15.5mil SP and 1mil WP and a whooping 2.03K/D Closed beta, 20.5mil SP, 1.55mil WP, 2.66 K/D
Hecarim Van Hohen wrote:I'm still a scrub by all standards
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ratamaq doc
Edge Regiment
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Posted - 2013.11.30 18:31:00 -
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I'd say you are a vet when you are on at least two of the top 1000 standings. This way no 1 method of gaming the system gives you a false sense. So top 1000 in terms of total kills AND K/D, or WP and Kills.
I guess their could still be the anomaly of the sniper who only plays 10 games, get 5 kills per game, never dies, and his team wins everyone putting him on both the K/D board and the win/loss board. But for the most part this is the best litmus I can think of. |
LHughes
xx The Fairies xx
189
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Posted - 2013.11.30 18:32:00 -
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I'm early closed beta (Spring 2012)
28mill SP
Pretty much every stat is a very rough guide to a player in this game
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
1465
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Posted - 2013.11.30 18:33:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Atiim wrote:As far as I'm concerned, WP is the only thing that truly matters. As WP is the only sure-fire way of determining how you contributed to the effort on the battlefield.
K/D is so miniscule it's laughable. WP is also an illusion, with how easy it is to boost by simply placing an uplink and tagging someone around with a repper, occasionally stopping to lob a core locus grenade. I think most stats in this game are laughable, and you simply have to take each person case by case and see what they're doing, how they're working with the team, etc etc. I know.
The only true w
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mollerz
Minja Scouts
1067
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Posted - 2013.11.30 19:10:00 -
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Llast 326 wrote:
Biomassed an account at 9 mil
:O
#shittycoding
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mollerz
Minja Scouts
1067
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Posted - 2013.11.30 19:11:00 -
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SP, WP, or K/D. All that **** doesn't matter. Can you manage to have fun at this point is the only real metric that is important.
#shittycoding
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
618
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Posted - 2013.11.30 19:19:00 -
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mollerz wrote:SP, WP, or K/D. All that **** doesn't matter. Can you manage to have fun at this point is the only real metric that is important. Fundamental
I shot a man in Black Rise onceGǪ Just to watch him die
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mollerz
Minja Scouts
1068
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Posted - 2013.11.30 19:23:00 -
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Llast 326 wrote:mollerz wrote:SP, WP, or K/D. All that **** doesn't matter. Can you manage to have fun at this point is the only real metric that is important. Fundamental
Man dude. I wish I would have been able to talk you out of g00ing that 9mil :/
#shittycoding
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Eris Ernaga
State Patriots
830
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Posted - 2013.11.30 19:32:00 -
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I'm a vet I have 22 mill sp been playing since the mercenary pack in the closed beta. I am ranked 280 on the leaderboard and 250 - 260 something for warpoints. I score first almost every time I play.
For Caldari and Amarr faction warfare join State Patriots and help us on the front.
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Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
1430
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Posted - 2013.11.30 19:36:00 -
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I'm at 17m SP, and on my best day I consider myself on the low end of average. ~1000 WP and about a 3:1 KDR if I can stay focused and in a communicative squad. ~500 WP and 1.5:1 if solo or just ******* off.
Cheeseburgers.
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ugg reset
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
410
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Posted - 2013.11.30 19:52:00 -
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hard to put a number on it. it's not what you have it is what you know.
quando omni flunkus, moritati
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Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
609
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Posted - 2013.11.30 20:07:00 -
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getting over the learning curve makes you a vet
when your not running around like a chicken with his head cut off your a vet
when you can lead a squad 2 victory 8-10 times your a vet
it has nothing 2 do with WP, SP, KD, or leaderboards because all of these can be boosted
SCAN ATTEMPT PREVENTED
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Ghosts Chance
Inf4m0us
286
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Posted - 2013.11.30 20:15:00 -
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the leaderboards only show you who has been around the longest, and who played ambush though the time that stats wrnt tracked in scrimish
thats about it
and becuase everyone else is doing it
24.5 Mil SP 3.15mil WP 35000 kills
3.36 KDR
im a vet, but not because of the stats, but because ive been around so long
being a vet is pretty much a combination of how long youve been around, how oftin you play, and how quickly you pick up on things. |
Cass Caul
389
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Posted - 2013.11.30 20:19:00 -
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no-lifer: 30M and above Vet: 21M SP and above Seasoned: 17-21M SP Experienced: 10-17M SP Beginner: 7-10M I hope protostomper don't turn you away: under 7M
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A girl, on the internet?! I roll to disbelieve.
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
618
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Posted - 2013.11.30 20:56:00 -
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mollerz wrote:Llast 326 wrote:mollerz wrote:SP, WP, or K/D. All that **** doesn't matter. Can you manage to have fun at this point is the only real metric that is important. Fundamental Man dude. I wish I would have been able to talk you out of g00ing that 9mil :/ Meh I am having fun with the Minja I replaced it with so, I am happy.
I shot a man in Black Rise onceGǪ Just to watch him die
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Eris Ernaga
State Patriots
835
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Posted - 2013.11.30 20:58:00 -
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Cass Caul wrote:no-lifer: 30M and above Vet: 21M SP and above Seasoned: 17-21M SP Experienced: 10-17M SP Beginner: 7-10M I hope protostomper don't turn you away: under 7M
It doesn't take a no lifer to get 30 mill sp for example if I had boosted my entire Dust career I'd probably have around 30 mill sp.
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Son-Of A-Gun
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
441
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Posted - 2013.11.30 21:21:00 -
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Sky Kage wrote:I currently hit 5.5m total sp and was wondering what people considered to be a "seasoned" dustie?
Noob.
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jenza aranda
BetaMax.
2269
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Posted - 2013.11.30 21:39:00 -
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as far as I am concerned, a veteran is a player who had to wait for the weekend for the servers to be turned on.
Dust 514 101 // Dust 514 Wiki
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
1471
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Posted - 2013.11.30 21:44:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Atiim wrote:As far as I'm concerned, WP is the only thing that truly matters. As WP is the only sure-fire way of determining how you contributed to the effort on the battlefield.
K/D is so miniscule it's laughable. WP is also an illusion, with how easy it is to boost by simply placing an uplink and tagging someone around with a repper, occasionally stopping to lob a core locus grenade. I think most stats in this game are laughable, and you simply have to take each person case by case and see what they're doing, how they're working with the team, etc etc. I know WP is also an illusion. It's just that more people seem to care about K/D than WP, so this stat being boosted is not an everyday occurrence beyond people abusing the recruit system.
I mean it's not often that you hear people say "leul I have twice the amount of WP you have, so get gud scrub". It's more of the "leul why don't you pick up an AR and get gud like me, I have twice the K/D you have scrub"
But I do agree, the only way to determine someone's skill in this game is to asses their actions in battle. WP and K/D are miniscule because not every role pushes out high numbers for both stats when done well. A sniper or tanker will most likely have a higher K/D that a Logi or scout, and a Logi and Scout will most likely have more WP than a sniper or tanker.
I just wish that people would stop abusing an already miniscule, insignificant stat already.
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Mortedeamor
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men.
927
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Posted - 2013.11.30 21:46:00 -
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Mauren NOON wrote:Sky Kage wrote:I currently hit 5.5m total sp and was wondering what people considered to be a "seasoned" dustie? At least 10mil how explain? 10 mill isnt even enough to top off and max 1 specc if veteran status were to be based on sp it would be 25 mill sp or higher..personally i look at it this way most vets in dust top 500 on leaderboards |
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Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
411
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Posted - 2013.11.30 21:51:00 -
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Mortedeamor wrote:Mauren NOON wrote:Sky Kage wrote:I currently hit 5.5m total sp and was wondering what people considered to be a "seasoned" dustie? At least 10mil how explain? 10 mill isnt even enough to top off and max 1 specc if veteran status were to be based on sp it would be 25 mill sp or higher..personally i look at it this way most vets in dust top 500 on leaderboards
one flaw with that logic is that stat padders are a thing. and besides, you get bumped to the 501st and you're a noob again!? that makes sence
quando omni flunkus, moritati
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KGB Sleep
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State
449
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Posted - 2013.11.30 22:09:00 -
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imo
Veteran is anyone pre-uprising with true veterans being closed beta players. If you paid to play dust you are a grandaddy.
Average is anyone 10-15mil SP
I don't really like to classify people as no0b based on SP accumulation, I think 5m is respectable in the sense that most map layouts should be well known by then.
"Because beer, that's why."
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John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy
521
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Posted - 2013.11.30 22:09:00 -
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I think going by steps of 10 mil SP is about right, though I guess a true noob is under 5 mil. 10 mil makes you seasoned, 20 mil a vet; all rough numbers, of course.
You could also go by beta status, closed, open, or none.
"The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu
Amarr victor!
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ratamaq doc
Edge Regiment
181
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Posted - 2013.11.30 22:17:00 -
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ITT. People claiming that vets are the ones who have played as long as them or longer. |
Thanatus Sleep
44
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Posted - 2013.11.30 22:31:00 -
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jenza aranda wrote:as far as I am concerned, a veteran is a player who had to wait for the weekend for the servers to be turned on.
The only way to be a true veteran. +1
Im a sad merc
Aq-Rg
SAY YES TO BPO REMOVALS ON 1.7 PATCH
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Sgt Kirk
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
3120
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Posted - 2013.11.30 22:39:00 -
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29,482,300 SP
3,065,521 WP
Been here since Weekend only access |
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