DUST Search - Feedback/ Request. What if instead of nerfing logis we increased Wp rewards.

abarkrishna wrote:

I fail to see how more orbitals in a game is bad. I for one would love to see it.

But seriously how is rewarding savior/revenge kills rewarding Wp bad? If they limit it to squad mates only like they do with scanners it will encourage team work even more than it does reducing solo play. Look the simple fact of the matter is that squads win the games and solo play just ruins it. I would love to see more than just my squad getting orbitals in games. But that never happens because more often than not i get in a game and there is one full squad and a ton of 2 man squads if that.

If it is that big of a problem they could very easily slightly increase the WP cost of orbitals. (Which they are working on redesigning anyway)

Secondly how can you deny that the WP gain of a logi is tremendous compared to other classes. This is simply one step in the right direction towards the balance of all suits.

Time to kill is very short right now. (most often less than a second.) Because of that everyone wants to stack armor plates. Just because a logi can fit armor plates and equipment everyone is freaking out. Assault suits still can fit more armor than a logi. They are still faster than a logi. They even have a second gun. Why should logis all of a sudden become completely useless because the other suits do not have good bonuses.

I am asking the community for constructive bonuses that can be applied to heavies, assaults, and scouts that would bring them up to par with logis, Rather than these absolutely stupid ideas such as side arm only logis.

We all know the WP reward system is broken. Simply put rewarding any one class over any other is not balanced. Also this game is meant to reward team play and discourage solo play. By adding in rewards for squad based tactics, like the previously exampled revenge and savior points, you encourage people to join squads. There is nothing wrong with that in my eyes.


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General12912 Gallente Marine Corps 30	Posted - 2013.12.01 05:15:00 - [1] - Quote abarkrishna wrote: Really? No one thinks this is better or has anything to contribute? That would render logi even more useless. You see, a lot of people measure a true logi by lifetime wp. If you give assault more chances at wp, then not only will that measurement be skewed, but you will see a lot more precision strikes. Tankers don't like precision strikes cuz ppl have a tendency to launch the strike on the tank. As if tankers didn't have enough things to worry about (swarm launchers, railgun/missile turrets, HAV's being so expensive, ect). The reason why people are complaining about logi isn't because of the amount of wp they are earning for supporting the team, its how much PG/CPU the suit has. Because of that, people aren't using the logi suits like they are meant to. They are using the high PG/CPU amounts to make fittings that are better than assault suits...
General12912 Gallente Marine Corps 30	Posted - 2013.12.01 06:07:00 - [2] - Quote abarkrishna wrote: I fail to see how more orbitals in a game is bad. I for one would love to see it. But seriously how is rewarding savior/revenge kills rewarding Wp bad? If they limit it to squad mates only like they do with scanners it will encourage team work even more than it does reducing solo play. Look the simple fact of the matter is that squads win the games and solo play just ruins it. I would love to see more than just my squad getting orbitals in games. But that never happens because more often than not i get in a game and there is one full squad and a ton of 2 man squads if that. If it is that big of a problem they could very easily slightly increase the WP cost of orbitals. (Which they are working on redesigning anyway) Secondly how can you deny that the WP gain of a logi is tremendous compared to other classes. This is simply one step in the right direction towards the balance of all suits. Time to kill is very short right now. (most often less than a second.) Because of that everyone wants to stack armor plates. Just because a logi can fit armor plates and equipment everyone is freaking out. Assault suits still can fit more armor than a logi. They are still faster than a logi. They even have a second gun. Why should logis all of a sudden become completely useless because the other suits do not have good bonuses. I am asking the community for constructive bonuses that can be applied to heavies, assaults, and scouts that would bring them up to par with logis, Rather than these absolutely stupid ideas such as side arm only logis. We all know the WP reward system is broken. Simply put rewarding any one class over any other is not balanced. Also this game is meant to reward team play and discourage solo play. By adding in rewards for squad based tactics, like the previously exampled revenge and savior points, you encourage people to join squads. There is nothing wrong with that in my eyes. They don't just stack armor. They r using the logi for something it was meant to be (an assault suit). The aren't even using the equipment for the most part. Team playing should be encouraged though, yes and its good to hear that they r increasing wp needed for precision strikes. Trust me, you would understand if you had just deployed a over million Isk tank just to see it get blown up by a precision strike before you even got to use it. True story too. The strike blew up not only the tank, but the bolas deployment drone carrying it. The tank did even get a chance to land. Imagine how mad you would be if you wasted a million dollars on something you didn't even get a chance to use. Its kinda like when you deploy yourself in a fitting with an officer weapons, and as soon as your screen lights up, it is already playing the death tone and showing you your killer's stats (this has happened to me before too...).
General12912 Gallente Marine Corps 30	Posted - 2013.12.01 06:21:00 - [3] - Quote abarkrishna wrote: Actually I am a tanker and have had this happen a few times. And frankly I would not care. I would still love to see more orbitals. There is nothing you can do with a logi that you can not with an assault suit. skill into PG/ CPU and all the upgrades and you will never have restrictions in an assault suit. Plus you will be faster and have a sidearm. But skill into all the PG/CPU upgrades, and you will have even less restrictions on logi. I guess it all depends on your outlook. You can't argue the fact though that there are a lot of proto logi users racking up kills and doing no troop support at all. Heck, I've Benn surrounded by logi guys before, got incapacitated (not terminated), and not a single one had medical gear.