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Atiim
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Posted - 2013.11.29 23:12:00 -
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Nope.
Everything will need a nerf until the only viable AV weapon is the 80GJ Particle Ion Cannon.
Why should handheld weapons be able to damage us? Why should using AV weaponry be effective against vehicles?
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
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Posted - 2013.11.29 23:13:00 -
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Fizzer94 wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:I'd rather they don't be useful, too much QQ for a "no skill" wweapon.
Then give me a respec so I can hip fire you to death with Forge Gun. Because waiting for the article to turn red on something the size of a kitchen is so very hard  It bugs me that all the designated AV weapons are stupidly easy to use. I really wish they were a bit more difficult to use, AV might be fun then.
On a scale of 1 to 10 how difficult would you say piloting an HAV or LAV is?
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
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Posted - 2013.11.29 23:30:00 -
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Fizzer94 wrote:Atiim wrote:Fizzer94 wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:I'd rather they don't be useful, too much QQ for a "no skill" wweapon.
Then give me a respec so I can hip fire you to death with Forge Gun. Because waiting for the article to turn red on something the size of a kitchen is so very hard It bugs me that all the designated AV weapons are stupidly easy to use. I really wish they were a bit more difficult to use, AV might be fun then. On a scale of 1 to 10 how difficult would you say piloting an HAV or LAV is? As someone who has used both Vehicles and AV extensively I will share my opinion with you. Easy to hard, from top to bottom: Swarms (as a Caldari, I find these offensively easy to use) AV Nades Flux Grenades LLAVs Prox. Mines LAVs Armor Tanks Forge Guns Shield Tanks Plasma Cannons
As someone who has used both Vehicles and AV extensively I will share the truth with you.
HAVs are stupid easy to pilot. Anyone named Joe The Scrub can easily slap 2 basic hardners, basic nitrous, a 120 plate, and some efficient reps and easily go 30-0.
Heck, none of these things are difficult to use at all. (Except maybe PLCs) The fact that you would even suggest that they have any slight amount of difficulty in terms of it's operation makes me offended to be Caldari.
And why did you list PLCs up there? They are quite literally the equivalent of rubber chickens in terms of AV usage. They are much better of being used as AI than AV.
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
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Posted - 2013.11.29 23:49:00 -
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Fizzer94 wrote:Atiim wrote:Fizzer94 wrote:te]
As someone who has used both Vehicles and AV extensively I will share my opinion with you.
Easy to hard, from top to bottom:
10 Swarms (as a Caldari, I find these offensively easy to use)
9 AV Nades
9 Flux Grenades
9 LLAVs
8 Prox. Mines
8 LAVs
8 Armor Tanks
7 Forge Guns
7 Shield Tanks
1 Plasma Cannons
As someone who has used both Vehicles and AV extensively I will share the truth with you. HAVs are stupid easy to pilot. Anyone named Joe The Scrub can easily slap 2 basic hardners, basic nitrous, a 120 plate, and some efficient reps and easily go 30-0. Heck, none of these things are difficult to use at all. (Except maybe PLCs) The fact that you would even suggest that they have any slight amount of difficulty in terms of it's operation makes me offended to be Caldari. And why did you list PLCs up there? They are quite literally the equivalent of rubber chickens in terms of AV usage. They are much better of being used as AI than AV. I numbered them for you. The higher the number, the less skill they take. I in no way think shield tanks are anywhere as hard to use as Cannons, they are just harder to use than the other things.
I already assumed that it was in this order, as you insulted the SLs and put them at the very top of the list, making it quite obvious what your intention was.
And this doesn't make what I said any less true, nor does it sway me from my statement.
And PLCs aren't that hard to use once you get used to them, and the ADS is kinda like firing a Breach MD.
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
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Posted - 2013.11.30 00:05:00 -
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Kane Fyea wrote:Fizzer94 wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:
Forge gun harder then prox mines to use? You are fucking funny. The forge gun is as easy as the swarms except you can actually kill infantry efficiently too.
While I agree, the Forge Gun is silly-easy (and to think, FG specialist were praised in Chromosome for being "brave"", I feel it is at least harder to use than Proxy Mines. Proxy Mines involve throwing a bunch of **** on a road and hoping for a car to drive by. Prox mines are actually pretty hard to use unless you literally make a mine field. Even then most LAVs can get past them before they even explode. The damage isn't really enough to damage tanks a lot.
You forgot to mention how you get a loud bepping sound before your about to run one over. You can be going full speed in an LAV and still have enough time to react and stop to drive around them
And this is from personal experience,
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
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Posted - 2013.11.30 16:43:00 -
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Darken-Sol wrote:Two proto swarms can pop any tank I've seen recently. **** one can if I'm outside rendering range.
Then that's a poorly fit tank.
I can survive way more than two swarms. They're either not using hardners, or the hardners died.
And being outside the render distance does not effect it's damage, so you are either a troll or lying.
Not that the latter would surprise me, I see pilots do it all the time.
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