DUST Search - If You're an HMG Heavy: Play Dirty

Interplanetary Insanitarium wrote:

SoTarian PoParrazi wrote:

Interplanetary Insanitarium wrote:

SoTarian PoParrazi wrote:

That isn't dirty enough - get an LLAV and make scrubs really cry. ;)

Meh. I'm not knocking that play style but that's not my definition of dirty. It's more fulfilling to me to creep my largeness behind enemy lines, take out some of the redline snipers then move up and get to work before I get turned on by the rest of the enemy.

so, you consider walking up to people and killing them dirty, but not using a nearly indestructible car to leap out, kill people, then in when danger hop in and get away to safety? Bear

Don't mistake me, I'll take any advantage I can get (That's within the limitations I place upon myself) but the LLAV isn't inconspicuous.

I like to surprise people with the last thing they'd expect which right now is a fatty that snuck up behind you, had time to dance around and then blasted away.

It's only a matter of time now for me to sneak up behind a group and eliminate them all before they realize it.

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Interplanetary Insanitarium 263	Posted - 2013.11.28 19:36:00 - [1] - Quote Camp, Camp, Camp... If you camp an objective the enemy will always come to you, or camp some cramped space with poor line of sight. I played two Skirmishes (I know, poor sample size) last night and I ran with an advanced Basic Heavy suit. I just got lv5 biotic upgrades and enhanced Kin Cats so I wanted to try them out. I put one of them on with an enhanced Armor Plate and an enhanced damage mod and a basic Shield Extender. I used the MH-82(?) and did pretty well. I didn't beast, but people tend to forget about what's behind them and I managed to get the drop on some skinny twerps. Just saying, Heavies need to be played like Scouts that can survive proto sniper rifles. Hide in the darkness and creep up from behind then blast away. It works for me and I'm not even that great at the game. >Welcome to Bonertown U.S.A.
SgtDoughnut Red Star Jr. EoN. 421	Posted - 2013.11.28 19:42:00 - [2] - Quote What is this play dirty you speak of, if it works use it.
SoTarian PoParrazi Shining Flame Amarr Empire 328	Posted - 2013.11.28 19:43:00 - [3] - Quote That isn't dirty enough - get an LLAV and make scrubs really cry. ;) n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ - Let's make a contract!
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 2479	Posted - 2013.11.28 19:46:00 - [4] - Quote SoTarian PoParrazi wrote: That isn't dirty enough - get an LLAV and make scrubs really cry. ;) God i hate that. Sinboto - The True Blood Minja. Forum Warrior level 2 A grunt of STB
Interplanetary Insanitarium 264	Posted - 2013.11.28 19:49:00 - [5] - Quote SoTarian PoParrazi wrote: That isn't dirty enough - get an LLAV and make scrubs really cry. ;) Meh. I'm not knocking that play style but that's not my definition of dirty. It's more fulfilling to me to creep my largeness behind enemy lines, take out some of the redline snipers then move up and get to work before I get turned on by the rest of the enemy. Also, one aspect of the Heavy to me is to be a distraction for teammates to rush objectives. I die A LOT but I'd rather die a bunch and win than survive and lose. >Welcome to Bonertown U.S.A.
SoTarian PoParrazi Shining Flame Amarr Empire 328	Posted - 2013.11.28 19:52:00 - [6] - Quote Interplanetary Insanitarium wrote: SoTarian PoParrazi wrote: That isn't dirty enough - get an LLAV and make scrubs really cry. ;) Meh. I'm not knocking that play style but that's not my definition of dirty. It's more fulfilling to me to creep my largeness behind enemy lines, take out some of the redline snipers then move up and get to work before I get turned on by the rest of the enemy. so, you consider walking up to people and killing them dirty, but not using a nearly indestructible car to leap out, kill people, then in when danger hop in and get away to safety? n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ - Let's make a contract!
Interplanetary Insanitarium 264	Posted - 2013.11.28 20:05:00 - [7] - Quote SoTarian PoParrazi wrote: Interplanetary Insanitarium wrote: SoTarian PoParrazi wrote: That isn't dirty enough - get an LLAV and make scrubs really cry. ;) Meh. I'm not knocking that play style but that's not my definition of dirty. It's more fulfilling to me to creep my largeness behind enemy lines, take out some of the redline snipers then move up and get to work before I get turned on by the rest of the enemy. so, you consider walking up to people and killing them dirty, but not using a nearly indestructible car to leap out, kill people, then in when danger hop in and get away to safety? Don't mistake me, I'll take any advantage I can get (That's within the limitations I place upon myself) but the LLAV isn't inconspicuous. I like to surprise people with the last thing they'd expect which right now is a fatty that snuck up behind you, had time to dance around and then blasted away. It's only a matter of time now for me to sneak up behind a group and eliminate them all before they realize it. >Welcome to Bonertown U.S.A.
Ridire Greine 120	Posted - 2013.11.28 20:06:00 - [8] - Quote SoTa is right. LLAV trick is the dirtiest tactic going right now. You can hop in and out instantly, and the damn things are near indestructible. Property of Knight SoiaireGäó R 0 N 1 N [VGTG]
XxWarlordxX97 Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 4044	Posted - 2013.11.28 20:16:00 - [9] - Quote SoTarian PoParrazi wrote: That isn't dirty enough - get an LLAV and make scrubs really cry. ;) This really works Level 5 forum warrior Heavy/AR logi suit<3 forget the scout
Interplanetary Insanitarium 264	Posted - 2013.11.28 20:22:00 - [10] - Quote Ridire Greine wrote: SoTa is right. LLAV trick is the dirtiest tactic going right now. You can hop in and out instantly, and the damn things are near indestructible. Is it dirty or cheap? Again, I'm not knocking that play style, I consider it as legitimate because you can still be shot out of the LLAV. And I don't buy into the eBushido so do whatever you can to win. The way I see it if you're in an LLAV you can just bull rush the enemy line and do business, so it's playing dirty in the sense that you're momentarily virtually indestructible which is always fun. If you sneak up behind the enemy in a Heavy suit you'd be playing dirty in the sense that you're intentionally playing with the weakness of the suit to eventually play with the strength of the suit. And you don't have to walk to sneak up behind people. Sometimes I'll call out a dropship, fly it to the ceiling and the bail when I feel like the enemy has advanced enough to only leave snipers near their base. Or sometimes I call out my Baloch to race to an objective and ditch it before I reach my destination so that momentum carries the LAV past the objective to confuse enemies. >Welcome to Bonertown U.S.A.

John Madson DIRTY LAUNDRY 514 0	Posted - 2013.11.28 20:40:00 - [11] - Quote Ridire Greine wrote: SoTa is right. LLAV trick is the dirtiest tactic going right now. You can hop in and out instantly, and the damn things are near indestructible. That not a new tatic. It was common during closed beta testing. Thats the originsl murder taxi, and its the tatic i still use todsy on my main account. Logi lav reps your armor or shield, its better than having a logibro behind you
Master Jaraiya Ultramarine Corp 1350	Posted - 2013.11.28 20:53:00 - [12] - Quote If you are able to sneak up behind anyone in a Heavy Suit, those players must really just suck horribly at this game. Seriously the suit is not stealthy at all. It has the Largest Scan Profile, Lowest Scan Precision, and Lowest Scan Range of all the Suits. It doesn't take much situational awareness at all to know that a Heavy is near by. Don't get me wrong, I'm not knocking you for doing what seems to work for you, I just would advise you to not expect this to work for very long, or against any decent players/corps, especially considering that nearly every squad has at least one guy/gal with an active scanner. "The true measure of a shinobi is not how he lives, but how he dies." *- The Toad Sage*
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 1534	Posted - 2013.11.28 21:24:00 - [13] - Quote SoTarian PoParrazi wrote: Interplanetary Insanitarium wrote: SoTarian PoParrazi wrote: That isn't dirty enough - get an LLAV and make scrubs really cry. ;) Meh. I'm not knocking that play style but that's not my definition of dirty. It's more fulfilling to me to creep my largeness behind enemy lines, take out some of the redline snipers then move up and get to work before I get turned on by the rest of the enemy. so, you consider walking up to people and killing them dirty, but not using a nearly indestructible car to leap out, kill people, then in when danger hop in and get away to safety? Its filthy, you do it with such grace lol. Level 1 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. Fix PC lag please CCP.
God Hates Lags Red Star. EoN. 459	Posted - 2013.11.28 21:56:00 - [14] - Quote Interplanetary Insanitarium wrote: Camp, Camp, Camp... If you camp an objective the enemy will always come to you, or camp some cramped space with poor line of sight. You have been scanned you have been scanned You have been scanned You have been scanned You have been scanned You have been scanned You have been scanned You have been scanned You have been scanned ^ this is why this won't work. Doubles ISK
XxWarlordxX97 Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 4045	Posted - 2013.11.28 22:03:00 - [15] - Quote God Hates Lags wrote: Interplanetary Insanitarium wrote: Camp, Camp, Camp... If you camp an objective the enemy will always come to you, or camp some cramped space with poor line of sight. You have been scanned you have been scanned You have been scanned You have been scanned You have been scanned You have been scanned You have been scanned You have been scanned You have been scanned ^ this is why this won't work. CCP get rid of the scanner, and heavy my be good again Level 5 forum warrior Heavy/AR logi suit<3 forget the scout
Slag Emberforge Immortal Retribution 167	Posted - 2013.11.28 22:11:00 - [16] - Quote HMG murder taxis is part of the reason I roll "forge taxis" myself. 1. See enemy LAV 2. Make eye contact 3. Get out and charge forge 4. Enemy tries to run you down, but is blown up instead! 5. ???? 6. Profit Or if they get out, and use my LAV as a barricade while I fire 80 rounds of SMG into their head. I do HMG murder taxi, but all too often I see "missed opportunities" flying through the sky and find a supply depot to switch back.
pseudosnipre DUST University Ivy League 361	Posted - 2013.11.28 22:19:00 - [17] - Quote Damped heavies are scarier...
jamstar saa187 the third day Public Disorder. 60	Posted - 2013.11.28 23:58:00 - [18] - Quote Slag Emberforge wrote: HMG murder taxis is part of the reason I roll "forge taxis" myself. 1. See enemy LAV 2. Make eye contact 3. Get out and charge forge 4. Enemy tries to run you down, but is blown up instead! 5. ???? 6. Profit Or if they get out, and use my LAV as a barricade while I fire 80 rounds of SMG into their head. I do HMG murder taxi, but all too often I see "missed opportunities" flying through the sky and find a supply depot to switch back. the most annoying part of having a Proto level Forge gun is this ^. going about your business, killing fools that think its cool to run up on a heavy, and you hear that noise (Tank, LAV, DS, it really dont matter) and you get that nagging feeling that you need to have the FG to kill that noise. when you dont, you are compelled to get it out.
Orenji Jiji 293	Posted - 2013.11.29 00:17:00 - [19] - Quote XxWarlordxX97 wrote: God Hates Lags wrote: Interplanetary Insanitarium wrote: Camp, Camp, Camp... If you camp an objective the enemy will always come to you, or camp some cramped space with poor line of sight. You have been scanned you have been scanned You have been scanned You have been scanned You have been scanned You have been scanned You have been scanned You have been scanned You have been scanned ^ this is why this won't work. CCP get rid of the scanner, and heavy my be good again New level of retardiness or sarcasm? Hard to say. I play heavy on my alt, and I don't care about being scanned in a controlled area. They know I'm here, they still have to come in and get me. SL dumbfire, DS bumpercars, tank godmode, working NKs. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain.
Slag Emberforge Immortal Retribution 168	Posted - 2013.11.29 00:26:00 - [20] - Quote jamstar saa187 wrote: Slag Emberforge wrote: HMG murder taxis is part of the reason I roll "forge taxis" myself. 1. See enemy LAV 2. Make eye contact 3. Get out and charge forge 4. Enemy tries to run you down, but is blown up instead! 5. ???? 6. Profit Or if they get out, and use my LAV as a barricade while I fire 80 rounds of SMG into their head. I do HMG murder taxi, but all too often I see "missed opportunities" flying through the sky and find a supply depot to switch back. the most annoying part of having a Proto level Forge gun is this ^. going about your business, killing fools that think its cool to run up on a heavy, and you hear that noise (Tank, LAV, DS, it really dont matter) and you get that nagging feeling that you need to have the FG to kill that noise. when you dont, you are compelled to get it out. It's that sound, and in my head I'm thinking "god damnit the one time I don't open the match with my FG.." It's not just a role, it's a responsibility to protect my blueberries from vehicles and allow them free travel, by destroying every thing I can that could take them out.

Cody Sietz Unkn0wn Killers Renegade Alliance 1650	Posted - 2013.11.29 00:28:00 - [21] - Quote Its not dirty... "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
XxWarlordxX97 Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 4052	Posted - 2013.12.01 00:15:00 - [22] - Quote Orenji Jiji wrote: XxWarlordxX97 wrote: God Hates Lags wrote: Interplanetary Insanitarium wrote: Camp, Camp, Camp... If you camp an objective the enemy will always come to you, or camp some cramped space with poor line of sight. You have been scanned you have been scanned You have been scanned You have been scanned You have been scanned You have been scanned You have been scanned You have been scanned You have been scanned ^ this is why this won't work. CCP get rid of the scanner, and heavy my be good again New level of retardiness or sarcasm? Hard to say. I play heavy on my alt, and I don't care about being scanned in a controlled area. They know I'm here, they still have to come in and get me. Scanned comes from behind uses a AR/Nade spams Level 5 forum warrior Heavy/AR logi suit<3 forget the scout
Interplanetary Insanitarium 268	Posted - 2013.12.04 11:54:00 - [23] - Quote Meh. Scanners only work if my tactics don't. And if it happens enough I'll just play your game and switch to Scanner AR/ScR Commando. Or resort to Forge sniping. I'll find ways to adapt... >Welcome to Bonertown U.S.A.
Drapedup Drippedout 0uter.Heaven Proficiency V. 93	Posted - 2013.12.04 12:09:00 - [24] - Quote Interplanetary Insanitarium wrote: SoTarian PoParrazi wrote: Interplanetary Insanitarium wrote: SoTarian PoParrazi wrote: That isn't dirty enough - get an LLAV and make scrubs really cry. ;) Meh. I'm not knocking that play style but that's not my definition of dirty. It's more fulfilling to me to creep my largeness behind enemy lines, take out some of the redline snipers then move up and get to work before I get turned on by the rest of the enemy. so, you consider walking up to people and killing them dirty, but not using a nearly indestructible car to leap out, kill people, then in when danger hop in and get away to safety? Don't mistake me, I'll take any advantage I can get (That's within the limitations I place upon myself) but the LLAV isn't inconspicuous. I like to surprise people with the last thing they'd expect which right now is a fatty that snuck up behind you, had time to dance around and then blasted away. It's only a matter of time now for me to sneak up behind a group and eliminate them all before they realize it. Equip a shotgun if this is your preferred method. The shotgun has better hit detection and range than HMG!
Kasote Denzara A Vulture 1123	Posted - 2013.12.04 12:11:00 - [25] - Quote I just came from a FW (that DC'd before we cloned them). 23-1 before I was kicked. One of those was a shotgun scout (which I spawned in and ultimately died in). HM-82 with a 'Dren' Scrambler Pistol brought me on a 22 streak (I had killed only two with the pistol). Whoever said the HMG is bad needs to be slapped. The thing is goddamn amazing. I guard dog'd an objective and nothing could get to the point. I was constantly scanned too, which made it better. I was actually calling in a vehicle to go out and get ammo and I was kicked. Fan-*******-tastic. Now Scotty won't even let me into FW. My advice is actually in the original post, though in words I wouldn't use: Use small spaces to your advantage. If they can't form a firing squad, you're at a great advantage. It'll take a Duvolle to bring you down. My fitting was as follows: 'Dren' Sentinel A-I MH-82 Heavy Machine Gun 'Dren' Scrambler Pistol Locus Grenade (though I rarely even use this damn thing) Complex Heavy Damage Modifier Enhanced Armor Plates x2 I only have operation III in HMGs. It's kind of embarrassing to see people call the HMG bad when I was gunning down GEKs, Duvolles, GODDAMN SHOTGUNS, and Scrambler Rifles. SWEET MOTHER OF TERESA ON THE HOOD OF A MERCEDES BENZ, YOU SOUND LIKE A MAJESTIC EAGLE! DO YOU SING?!
Rei Shepard The Rainbow Effect 1273	Posted - 2013.12.04 12:13:00 - [26] - Quote Interplanetary Insanitarium wrote: Camp, Camp, Camp... If you camp an objective the enemy will always come to you, or camp some cramped space with poor line of sight. I played two Skirmishes (I know, poor sample size) last night and I ran with an advanced Basic Heavy suit. I just got lv5 biotic upgrades and enhanced Kin Cats so I wanted to try them out. I put one of them on with an enhanced Armor Plate and an enhanced damage mod and a basic Shield Extender. I used the MH-82(?) and did pretty well. I didn't beast, but people tend to forget about what's behind them and I managed to get the drop on some skinny twerps. Just saying, Heavies need to be played like Scouts that can survive proto sniper rifles. Hide in the darkness and creep up from behind then blast away. It works for me and I'm not even that great at the game. Most heavies need to learn how to aim, they will be much more efficient that way... Winner of the EU Squad Cup "Go Go Power Rangers!" "Accuracy"
Chibi Andy Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 669	Posted - 2013.12.04 12:57:00 - [27] - Quote God Hates Lags wrote: Interplanetary Insanitarium wrote: Camp, Camp, Camp... If you camp an objective the enemy will always come to you, or camp some cramped space with poor line of sight. You have been scanned you have been scanned You have been scanned You have been scanned You have been scanned You have been scanned You have been scanned You have been scanned You have been scanned ^ this is why this won't work. whenever i so many "you have been scanned" message one after the other, i sometimes get the idea that the scanner guy wants to kill me by giving me a huge dosage of cancer rays. i FELL like im getting cancer by reading that message pop up so many times in one match YOU HAVE BEEN SCANNED!!! sç+a¦át¢èa¦á)sç+ (pâÄa¦át¢èa¦á)pâÄs+íGö+GöüGö+


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