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Leo Look Shadow Company HQ 24	Posted - 2013.11.28 18:50:00 - [1] - Quote hello all Easy fix is don't let damage mod stacking at all or you can make the stacking penalties like 90% per stack. giving logi's only side arms with out dealing with the damage mod issue will just have proto scram's doing crazy damage and more wining on these forums.
TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR F.T.U. 704	Posted - 2013.11.28 18:53:00 - [2] - Quote no. that's not the way to fix it. no role should have a penalty for using a module or weapon. if a heavy wants to use a shotgun or nova knives, then goddammit let him use them! if a scout wants to tank 850 hp, then he has a right to! same with logis. i agree, they need a nerf, somehow, but this is not the way to do it. damage mods are for everyone, even logis, whether you like it or not. Tell me, how exactly DOES a biscuit gain Valor?
Mortedeamor WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men. 907	Posted - 2013.11.28 19:01:00 - [3] - Quote TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote: no. that's not the way to fix it. no role should have a penalty for using a module or weapon. if a heavy wants to use a shotgun or nova knives, then goddammit let him use them! if a scout wants to tank 850 hp, then he has a right to! same with logis. i agree, they need a nerf, somehow, but this is not the way to do it. damage mods are for everyone, even logis, whether you like it or not. i concur i do NOT support this as a fix
Kaughst 0uter.Heaven Proficiency V. 58	Posted - 2013.11.28 19:05:00 - [4] - Quote These kinds of 'fixes' are so stupid...next someone is going to suggest making it so the logi can't sprint. Step 1: Take Districts Step 2: ??? Step 3: Profit Cow for Kaughst
Leo Look Shadow Company HQ 25	Posted - 2013.11.29 03:28:00 - [5] - Quote TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote: no. that's not the way to fix it. no role should have a penalty for using a module or weapon. if a heavy wants to use a shotgun or nova knives, then goddammit let him use them! if a scout wants to tank 850 hp, then he has a right to! same with logis. i agree, they need a nerf, somehow, but this is not the way to do it. damage mods are for everyone, even logis, whether you like it or not. you mis read me sir I am saying if you stack damage mods then there is a penalty of 90% it is now like 20% the penaity on the module is already there just not as high as it needs to be
Oswald Rehnquist 736	Posted - 2013.11.29 03:31:00 - [6] - Quote I actually like this idea, I also think the penalties for stacking armor and shields should go up as well. You can then give the assault a free complex light weapon damage mod in its suit skill without it being broken. Below 28 dB
Kira Lannister Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 2015	Posted - 2013.11.29 03:31:00 - [7] - Quote Honestly, take away the default 5/hp rep. OR Give all suits a default rep bonus. Either or is fine. "The Ancient Templars will guard fearlessly the people, the land and the heavens of the empire." Book of Exiles 1:3
Leo Look Shadow Company HQ 25	Posted - 2013.11.29 03:31:00 - [8] - Quote all of you don't get this I am saying no suit can stack not just logi .....I PLAY LOGI I don't need to run with only a side arm what is the point of making me not be able to defend myself because some of you want to use the suit as a slayer. I want my AR you send any role into combat with just side arms and you weaken the team
Maximus Stryker Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 699	Posted - 2013.11.29 03:33:00 - [9] - Quote What about making the assault bonus 1% damage increase per level ? Would that make a lot of this slayers leave the logi suits for the assault suit? *Faction Channels for FW Staging* PIE Ground Control \| Caldari Hierarchy \| Turalyon \| Chosen Matari
Leo Look Shadow Company HQ 25	Posted - 2013.11.29 03:38:00 - [10] - Quote Maximus Stryker wrote: What about making the assault bonus 1% damage increase per level ? Would that make a lot of this slayers leave the logi suits for the assault suit? it may but then I bet you get some saying it's OP

Maximus Stryker Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 700	Posted - 2013.11.29 04:11:00 - [11] - Quote Leo Look wrote: Maximus Stryker wrote: What about making the assault bonus 1% damage increase per level ? Would that make a lot of this slayers leave the logi suits for the assault suit? it may but then I bet you get some saying it's OP Only one way to find out. *Faction Channels for FW Staging* PIE Ground Control \| Caldari Hierarchy \| Turalyon \| Chosen Matari
Luna Angelo We Who Walk Alone 189	Posted - 2013.11.29 04:16:00 - [12] - Quote Don't nerf logibrethern because of the Killer Bees. That's not the way it should happen. I think Killer Bees should be a viable option. Just not the BEST killing option. Names of playstyles
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 1130	Posted - 2013.11.29 05:04:00 - [13] - Quote Violating core mechanics of the system to make sloppy 'fixes' is just not a good idea. There are a couple very eloquent suggestions out there that don't do these band-aid fixes that dont force abnormal mechanics. ADS Reports - Defining Racial Themes
Alena Ventrallis Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 173	Posted - 2013.11.29 05:08:00 - [14] - Quote 1. remove 10% weapon buff from all weapons 2. give assault suits a 2% damage increase per level instead of shield recharge 3. require logis to fill all equipment slots. I will trumpet this until Judgement Day if need be. Don't touch my logi suit, Nerfing slayer logis nerfs logibros as well. BRING ASSAULTS UP TO OUR LEVEL.
Michael Arck Anubis Prime Syndicate 1937	Posted - 2013.11.29 05:09:00 - [15] - Quote The nerf trains makes all stops...
Luna Angelo We Who Walk Alone 199	Posted - 2013.11.29 05:10:00 - [16] - Quote Alena Ventrallis wrote: 1. remove 10% weapon buff from all weapons 2. give assault suits a 2% damage increase per level instead of shield recharge 3. require logis to fill all equipment slots. I will trumpet this until Judgement Day if need be. Don't touch my logi suit, Nerfing slayer logis nerfs logibros as well. BRING ASSAULTS UP TO OUR LEVEL. This is still very easy to spec around to get a Killer Bee. Just saying. Names of playstyles
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 506	Posted - 2013.11.29 05:12:00 - [17] - Quote Try some maths people. Stacking damage mods is really not all that OP, using 3 complex mods (unless ur a sniper or forge I guess) is not better than 2 and a complex shield extender. It's probably closer, but even 1 with 2 complex shield might be better as well. "The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu Amarr victor!
Alena Ventrallis Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 173	Posted - 2013.11.29 05:20:00 - [18] - Quote Luna Angelo wrote: Alena Ventrallis wrote: 1. remove 10% weapon buff from all weapons 2. give assault suits a 2% damage increase per level instead of shield recharge 3. require logis to fill all equipment slots. I will trumpet this until Judgement Day if need be. Don't touch my logi suit, Nerfing slayer logis nerfs logibros as well. BRING ASSAULTS UP TO OUR LEVEL. This is still very easy to spec around to get a Killer Bee. Just saying. What would you add?
Luna Angelo We Who Walk Alone 199	Posted - 2013.11.29 05:21:00 - [19] - Quote Alena Ventrallis wrote: Luna Angelo wrote: Alena Ventrallis wrote: 1. remove 10% weapon buff from all weapons 2. give assault suits a 2% damage increase per level instead of shield recharge 3. require logis to fill all equipment slots. I will trumpet this until Judgement Day if need be. Don't touch my logi suit, Nerfing slayer logis nerfs logibros as well. BRING ASSAULTS UP TO OUR LEVEL. This is still very easy to spec around to get a Killer Bee. Just saying. What would you add? Nothing, just keep it this way (your idea). Killer Bees should be viable, just not easy or the best. I'm a Logisis, but I run around as a Killer Bee sometimes, just because. Names of playstyles
Zero Harpuia Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 1270	Posted - 2013.11.29 05:50:00 - [20] - Quote I get it. It is STILL stupid. All stacking penalties use the same formula, making it different for one will just confuse and disorient. Besides, it isn't Damage mod stacking that breaks Logis, stacking more than two is a waste of ISK and slots. Shields as Weapons

Hey Fatty SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 60	Posted - 2013.11.29 05:52:00 - [21] - Quote Leo Look wrote: hello all Easy fix is don't let damage mod stacking at all or you can make the stacking penalties like 90% per stack. giving logi's only side arms with out dealing with the damage mod issue will just have proto scram's doing crazy damage and more wining on these forums. This logic makes me sad. Please do better to make yourself a better merc. Adapt and learn. They have their weaknesses. Im a logi and can say this without question. ;)
Ludvig Enraga KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 690	Posted - 2013.11.29 06:07:00 - [22] - Quote TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote: no. that's not the way to fix it. no role should have a penalty for using a module or weapon. if a heavy wants to use a shotgun or nova knives, then goddammit let him use them! if a scout wants to tank 850 hp, then he has a right to! same with logis. i agree, they need a nerf, somehow, but this is not the way to do it. damage mods are for everyone, even logis, whether you like it or not. What the hell are you even talking about? How can a scout have 850 hp? Mini scout that is. Then if it's a 850 hp scout, why is it even a scout. It's just another suit trying to be an assault with an AR. Goes w/o saying that once you allow 850 hp on a scout, no scout will ever choose to use red pills, dampeners, amplifiers, shotguns - because why use stuff that barely works when you can have the Assault + AR easy mode? Oh, sht! I just learned you can make a signature! Thanks, CCP! Forums are getting better!
SteelheadPep SAM-MIK 4	Posted - 2013.11.29 14:24:00 - [23] - Quote CCP nerfed the Cal logi suit to dicourage the assault logis,but those of us that play a support logi were stuck with a subpar fitting. Please put some thought into this issue before you do another knee jerk reaction that will futher reduce the number of mercs running as support logis that try to help their sqaud/team.


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