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Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon 514
Turalyon Alliance
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Posted - 2013.11.29 07:13:00 -
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Draco Cerberus wrote:ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals wrote:Draco Cerberus wrote:Quoting me is ok but I call copyright infringement for not citing sources. +1 Sorry, bro-ham, but I needed to have that quote all by it's lonesome. I've got respect for the messenger, you, but I had to have that on it's lonesome so that I could put it in my sig as my code. I really am going to need it soon. I've heard talk of nerfing logi WP (somehow) and that WP cap on EVERYTHING I DID AS A LOGI that prevented me from getting anything for doing my job in the thickest of battle is what convinced me to take a long break from Dust. Worked out because it was removed, but now it might be coming back. I am sure CCP understands that Logi is not OP. There are plenty of people who play logi that just have a ton more sp than the majority of the qqers and it can quite clearly spell out to CCP what is going on. If not then they are blind.
I would like you to watch this video and show me an assault that can achieve the same HP, damage, and versatility.
It's OP. Sorry.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon 514
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Posted - 2013.11.29 22:57:00 -
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Draco Cerberus wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:I would like you to watch this video and show me an assault that can achieve the same HP, damage, and versatility. It's OP. Sorry. That was a fine and entertaining video. Congratulations on the sheer number of kills. I think using a proto logi vs a tonne of standard and below suits should be like this especially when the person in the proto logi suit is also proto plate, proto scr, proto hive, proto grenade and most likely proto scanner as well. Please do correct me if I made a mistake in breaking down your fitting, and although I am not sure, it looked like you may have been using proto damage modifiers as well. So congratulations on a stellar defeat, and a strong showing. Now if you can use some other weapon to do the same feat (one that doesn't overheat for more damage) I will be doubly impressed. You also have a strong gun game sir, why then were you running solo and not with a squad? I also didn't see you drop any orbitals, though if you had made a locked solo squad I am sure you could have done so as I have many times in the past. Any player that would try this without a lot of XP would have been dead long before the end of the match. I would estimate your SP between 20 and 30 million and would definitely not hesitate to engage you on the field of battle should we meet, but when I do I will bring my proto hives, my Duvolle and my squad, as none of those guys seemed to do any of that. Cheers, Logi is still not OP.
Well, thanks I guess.
I was running solo because it was relatively early for me and I didn't have many corpmates on at the time.
Now, see, my point was that nothing else could achieve the versatility and power that this suit had.
I was using an Imperial SCR with 1x complex damage modifier. I had over 700 armour and a decent shield buffer. I had a scanner. I had Allotek hives, Wiyrkomi hives, and a nanite injector.
There is nothing else except in the logi class that can achieve those results.
Incidentally, it's similar with a Duvolle.
I do hope I meet you on the field though. Militiaberries aren't much of a challenge, and I'd much rather have more satisfying combat.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
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Posted - 2013.11.29 23:54:00 -
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Draco Cerberus wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Draco Cerberus wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:I would like you to watch this video and show me an assault that can achieve the same HP, damage, and versatility. It's OP. Sorry. That was a fine and entertaining video. Congratulations on the sheer number of kills. I think using a proto logi vs a tonne of standard and below suits should be like this especially when the person in the proto logi suit is also proto plate, proto scr, proto hive, proto grenade and most likely proto scanner as well. Please do correct me if I made a mistake in breaking down your fitting, and although I am not sure, it looked like you may have been using proto damage modifiers as well. So congratulations on a stellar defeat, and a strong showing. Now if you can use some other weapon to do the same feat (one that doesn't overheat for more damage) I will be doubly impressed. You also have a strong gun game sir, why then were you running solo and not with a squad? I also didn't see you drop any orbitals, though if you had made a locked solo squad I am sure you could have done so as I have many times in the past. Any player that would try this without a lot of XP would have been dead long before the end of the match. I would estimate your SP between 20 and 30 million and would definitely not hesitate to engage you on the field of battle should we meet, but when I do I will bring my proto hives, my Duvolle and my squad, as none of those guys seemed to do any of that. Cheers, Logi is still not OP. Well, thanks I guess. I was running solo because it was relatively early for me and I didn't have many corpmates on at the time. Now, see, my point was that nothing else could achieve the versatility and power that this suit had. I was using an Imperial SCR with 1x complex damage modifier. I had over 700 armour and a decent shield buffer. I had a scanner. I had Allotek hives, Wiyrkomi hives, and a nanite injector. There is nothing else except in the logi class that can achieve those results. Incidentally, it's similar with a Duvolle.I do hope I meet you on the field though. Militiaberries aren't much of a challenge, and I'd much rather have more satisfying combat. Sorry no, just tested the fit with a Duvolle, it is certainly not op. It is either your SP combined with your playstyle or it is some mistake and Scotty has dropped you in with a bunch of noobs who have yet to learn how to point a gun.
How do you define OP?
I define it as overshadowing the other options by a significant margin.
Could you provide an example of something that can compete with the Gallogi?
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon 514
Turalyon Alliance
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Posted - 2013.12.02 21:56:00 -
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Bunny Demon wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:
How do you define OP?
I define it as overshadowing the other options by a significant margin.
Could you provide an example of something that can compete with the Gallogi?
An orbital, a sniper, a shotgunner, a team of almost anyone attacking from behind and infront (pun intended :p ) etc.
An orbital takes quite a bit of effort just to drop it on one man who may or may not be in the open. Oh, by the way, I frequently survive orbitals in my Gallogi. Not straight tanking it of course, but they're perfectly survivable.
Sniper damage can be laughed off with the exception of the Thale's.
A shotgunner can be blasted away.
People doing pincer movements can be anticipated due to scanning.
Is there anything that could actually compete with the fit I was using in straight, head on combat? Not even heavies can.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
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Posted - 2013.12.02 22:05:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:Bunny Demon wrote:
An orbital, a sniper, a shotgunner, a team of almost anyone attacking from behind and infront (pun intended :p ) etc.
Oh my dear God. I thought Arkena was bullshitting me when he told me about this post. You're going to continue asserting that the asset isn't OP and then list an ORBITAL as one of the ways to combat it? BEFORE listing such things as teamwork, which was at the END of your post? I'd say more but I'm laughing so hard I keep hitting the wrong keys. Pre nerf Tactical Assault Rifles are fine, you can drop and orbital strike on them 
I actually laughed quite hard.
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