DUST Search - Please keep squad stacking and proto-stomping to FW

Django Quik wrote:

Baal Roo wrote:

There's 16 players on both teams dude, squad stacking doesn't change that simple fact.

Furthermore, if FW included all game modes you might have some sort of point, but it doesn't.

You're actually arguing that if you want to play with more than 5 of your friends you shouldn't be allowed to play ambush or domination? What does it matter? How is CCP's trash matchmaking the fault of the players? I'd say the people who are "stacking" with their 5+ friends are the people keeping the ******* game alive in the first place.

Regardless, the game isn't competitive, and playing the same couple of FW scenarios over and over again is boring as hell. If CCP doesn't want large groups of people playing the game modes together, then they need to put more checks in place to prevent it from happening.

I think you're simply blaming the symptoms of a bad game on the few people who are left playing it. It's not our fault queueing is trash, it's not our fault matchmaking blows, it's not our fault that the game is brutally unfair to new players, it's not our fault there aren't more game modes... all of those are CCP's fault. If you don't like people "stomping" then take it up with CCP, not the people who are actually here playing and supporting the game.

Hell, why is stomping a problem in the first place? Because the skill system is idiotic. If they'd fix the skill system so that you don't have to treat the game like a part time job for 3-6 months just to compete, none of this would be a problem.

Don't get me wrong - I understand that the cause of this is poor matchmaking and a simple change to make squads even or at most only a difference of 1 squad between the 2 sides would be the best solution. I'm not entirely blaming the players for the state of the game but there are things we can all do to make it better because CCP is taking their time over this.

All I'm trying to do is alleviate the symptoms of the poor matchmaking by encouraging people to avoid making matches ridiculously unbalanced by stacking squads. If matchmaking gets fixed in the way we envisage, you won't be able to play with 5+ of your friends anyway because the other squad will almost always end up on the other side. Then you'll only be able to stack squads in FW, so what will you all do then?


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Baal Roo Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2770	Posted - 2013.11.27 23:54:00 - [1] - Quote My friends and I will play in whatever mode we damn well please.
Baal Roo Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2770	Posted - 2013.11.28 02:23:00 - [2] - Quote Leithe Askarii wrote: Baal Roo wrote: My friends and I will play in whatever mode we damn well please. Never seen Subdreddit Pubstomp ....always been on your side... that might colour my opinion somewhat. I don't think there are enough of us in Subdreddit who actually take this junky-ass game seriously enough to "pubstomp," but we do pile into whatever damn mode we want with as many of us as happen to be playing at the time.
Baal Roo Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2771	Posted - 2013.11.28 22:29:00 - [3] - Quote Django Quik wrote: CUSE TOWN333 wrote: Django Quik wrote: Michael Arck wrote: So basically you want to sweep the dirt under the rug. FW is not that rug. Sorry but there is no other place for it to go - pub games are not for squad stacking; that currently only leaves FW. Who are you to say were a squad can stack and were a squad can not stack. I hear the redline is a safe place for you to go if you don't like fighting. Who am I? Someone reasonable who wants this game to succeed - sorry that that aim seems to be at odds with some people who just want to boost their own egos by dominating pub games with their 10 friends. And for anyone confused, squad stacking means more than one squad, so 7+ players from the same corp. Obviously running with your corp mates is great and should be encouraged but if you want to have more than one squad running together, do it in FW where you're more likely to have an actual challenge. There's 16 players on both teams dude, squad stacking doesn't change that simple fact. Furthermore, if FW included all game modes you might have some sort of point, but it doesn't. You're actually arguing that if you want to play with more than 5 of your friends you shouldn't be allowed to play ambush or domination? What does it matter? How is CCP's trash matchmaking the fault of the players? I'd say the people who are "stacking" with their 5+ friends are the people keeping the ******* game alive in the first place. Regardless, the game isn't competitive, and playing the same couple of FW scenarios over and over again is boring as hell. If CCP doesn't want large groups of people playing the game modes together, then they need to put more checks in place to prevent it from happening. I think you're simply blaming the symptoms of a bad game on the few people who are left playing it. It's not our fault queueing is trash, it's not our fault matchmaking blows, it's not our fault that the game is brutally unfair to new players, it's not our fault there aren't more game modes... all of those are CCP's fault. If you don't like people "stomping" then take it up with CCP, not the people who are actually here playing and supporting the game. Hell, why is stomping a problem in the first place? Because the skill system is idiotic. If they'd fix the skill system so that you don't have to treat the game like a part time job for 3-6 months just to compete, none of this would be a problem.
Baal Roo Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2772	Posted - 2013.11.29 12:18:00 - [4] - Quote Django Quik wrote: Baal Roo wrote: There's 16 players on both teams dude, squad stacking doesn't change that simple fact. Furthermore, if FW included all game modes you might have some sort of point, but it doesn't. You're actually arguing that if you want to play with more than 5 of your friends you shouldn't be allowed to play ambush or domination? What does it matter? How is CCP's trash matchmaking the fault of the players? I'd say the people who are "stacking" with their 5+ friends are the people keeping the ******* game alive in the first place. Regardless, the game isn't competitive, and playing the same couple of FW scenarios over and over again is boring as hell. If CCP doesn't want large groups of people playing the game modes together, then they need to put more checks in place to prevent it from happening. I think you're simply blaming the symptoms of a bad game on the few people who are left playing it. It's not our fault queueing is trash, it's not our fault matchmaking blows, it's not our fault that the game is brutally unfair to new players, it's not our fault there aren't more game modes... all of those are CCP's fault. If you don't like people "stomping" then take it up with CCP, not the people who are actually here playing and supporting the game. Hell, why is stomping a problem in the first place? Because the skill system is idiotic. If they'd fix the skill system so that you don't have to treat the game like a part time job for 3-6 months just to compete, none of this would be a problem. Don't get me wrong - I understand that the cause of this is poor matchmaking and a simple change to make squads even or at most only a difference of 1 squad between the 2 sides would be the best solution. I'm not entirely blaming the players for the state of the game but there are things we can all do to make it better because CCP is taking their time over this. All I'm trying to do is alleviate the symptoms of the poor matchmaking by encouraging people to avoid making matches ridiculously unbalanced by stacking squads. If matchmaking gets fixed in the way we envisage, you won't be able to play with 5+ of your friends anyway because the other squad will almost always end up on the other side. Then you'll only be able to stack squads in FW, so what will you all do then? Quit playing Dust 514 completely? I mean look, most people who are still here are here for the camaraderie and waiting out a bad game in hopes of eventual improvement and payoff. The people who play regularly in large numbers are the people keeping the game alive, so sacrificing the one thing the game currently has going for it for the sake of new players who are being ****** ten times harder by CCP than any random pub group could ever hope to is a bit counter productive in my opinion. New players are screwed regardless with an insane uphill battle of 15+ hour ls a week for months on end anyway. And do you know what generally gets people through that uphill battle? Qsyncing with their corp.