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Shruikan Iceeye
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Posted - 2013.11.27 20:40:00 -
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Is it fine where it is?
Should it be changed (not necessarily for the worse)?
My opinion is that a wobble effect should be added. Like a slightly toned down version of the Assault Scrambler.
Everything else stays the same. I think that no recoil on even the first shot is a little weird.
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Fizzer94
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Posted - 2013.11.27 20:41:00 -
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My opinion is that its DPS should be dropped to approximately the DPS of the SMG. I find them to be that OP.
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The Plasma Cannon is not underpowered
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Midas Fool
T.R.I.A.D
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Posted - 2013.11.27 20:42:00 -
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Only thing unbalanced IMHO is the range at which the Duvolle is effective. Everything else is pretty justified.
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
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Posted - 2013.11.27 20:56:00 -
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Fizzer94 wrote:My opinion is that its DPS should be dropped to approximately the DPS of the SMG. I find them to be that OP.
That would require a nerf of all other rifles, including the SCR, as they are pretty balanced against each other.
Just FYI.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
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Posted - 2013.11.27 20:57:00 -
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Midas Fool wrote:Only thing unbalanced IMHO is the range at which the Duvolle is effective. Everything else is pretty justified.
At 78 meters in 1.7 (That's after a buff mind you, it's even lower right now) it does 30% DPS.
Oh yeah that's really scary 
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
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Pvt Numnutz
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.11.27 20:58:00 -
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Which ar? The gallente one? Be specific man! |
Spademan
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
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Posted - 2013.11.27 21:02:00 -
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Pvt Numnutz wrote:Which ar? The gallente one? Be specific man!
The one that actually has that as a name.
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Fizzer94
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Posted - 2013.11.27 21:05:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Fizzer94 wrote:My opinion is that its DPS should be dropped to approximately the DPS of the SMG. I find them to be that OP. That would require a nerf of all other rifles, including the SCR, as they are pretty balanced against each other. Just FYI.
Yes. The DPS of the other rifles would have to be dropped proportionately. I understand balance.
The ScR would have to retain enough DPS to deplete at least 1500 eHP before it overheats, as well. I don't know how this would be handled, but a small decrease to heat generation might be the best way to meet that goal after a ~25% damage nerf.
The Breach and Burst Rifles could probably use a smaller nerf, they need some love, and deserve to do more DPS than the Assault variant.
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The Plasma Cannon is not underpowered
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
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Posted - 2013.11.27 21:08:00 -
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Fizzer94 wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Fizzer94 wrote:My opinion is that its DPS should be dropped to approximately the DPS of the SMG. I find them to be that OP. That would require a nerf of all other rifles, including the SCR, as they are pretty balanced against each other. Just FYI. Yes. The DPS of the other rifles would have to be dropped proportionately. I understand balance. The ScR would have to retain enough DPS to deplete at least 1500 eHP before it overheats, as well. I don't know how this would be handled, but a small decrease to heat generation might be the best way to meet that goal after a ~25% damage nerf. The Breach and Burst Rifles could probably use a smaller nerf, they need some love, and deserve to do more DPS than the Assault variant.
Breach is going to get the same range as the Assault variant.
Considering that it has very accurate hip fire, I am not sure it needs more DPS.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
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Fizzer94
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Posted - 2013.11.27 21:13:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Fizzer94 wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Fizzer94 wrote:My opinion is that its DPS should be dropped to approximately the DPS of the SMG. I find them to be that OP. That would require a nerf of all other rifles, including the SCR, as they are pretty balanced against each other. Just FYI. Yes. The DPS of the other rifles would have to be dropped proportionately. I understand balance. The ScR would have to retain enough DPS to deplete at least 1500 eHP before it overheats, as well. I don't know how this would be handled, but a small decrease to heat generation might be the best way to meet that goal after a ~25% damage nerf. The Breach and Burst Rifles could probably use a smaller nerf, they need some love, and deserve to do more DPS than the Assault variant. Breach is going to get the same range as the Assault variant. Considering that it has very accurate hip fire, I am not sure it needs more DPS.
Hmm. Yes, I think that would do just fine. The Burst Variant however, It's just so rare I feel it needs some sort of buff.
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The Plasma Cannon is not underpowered
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Shruikan Iceeye
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Posted - 2013.11.27 21:14:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Midas Fool wrote:Only thing unbalanced IMHO is the range at which the Duvolle is effective. Everything else is pretty justified. At 78 meters in 1.7 (That's after a buff mind you, it's even lower right now) it does 30% DPS. Oh yeah that's really scary
Man ive gotten murdered at 80 yards by Duvolles easily |
Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
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Posted - 2013.11.27 21:19:00 -
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Shruikan Iceeye wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Midas Fool wrote:Only thing unbalanced IMHO is the range at which the Duvolle is effective. Everything else is pretty justified. At 78 meters in 1.7 (That's after a buff mind you, it's even lower right now) it does 30% DPS. Oh yeah that's really scary Man ive gotten murdered at 80 yards by Duvolles easily
Then you must have stood out of cover for FAR too long.
My stacked damage mods + proficiency Duvolle does around 180 DPS at 30%.
Considering the AR can fire 4.8 seconds before reloading, which is 860 total damage, that's less than some Logi suits.
They might have been getting headshots, in which case they deserve the kill since at that range the head is tiny.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
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Posted - 2013.11.27 21:30:00 -
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Midas Fool wrote:Only thing unbalanced IMHO is the range at which the Duvolle is effective. Everything else is pretty justified.
yes. it is gallente tech. it should win in close quarters, but not vs a shotgun. the AR and SG need to be balanced agianst eachother
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Cody Sietz
Unkn0wn Killers
Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2013.11.27 21:32:00 -
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Fizzer94 wrote:My opinion is that its DPS should be dropped to approximately the DPS of the SMG. I find them to be that OP.
Sooooo combat rifle?
Drop the range to the Breach AR, change dmg to the same as breach, keep large mag size and keep RoF.
Close range high dmg weapon.
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Melchiah ARANeAE
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.11.27 22:30:00 -
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It needs some dispersion/kick when ADS imo. The barrel doesn't start to climb until the 20th round and all the rounds that come out of it are pinpoint accurate. Forum post / video that helps show it.
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Melchiah ARANeAE
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.11.27 22:34:00 -
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Pvt Numnutz wrote:Which ar? The gallente one? Be specific man!
Your name is very well chosen...
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
Interstellar Murder of Crows
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Posted - 2013.11.27 22:56:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:Fizzer94 wrote:My opinion is that its DPS should be dropped to approximately the DPS of the SMG. I find them to be that OP. Sooooo combat rifle? Drop the range to the Breach AR, change dmg to the same as breach, keep large mag size and keep RoF. Close range high dmg weapon.
If it is going to be a"blaster" type weapon, I'd say this would be good, though I would drop the range to the average of an Assault SMG and the Breach AR. I'd also skew it more towards shields than armor.
Yes, the other rifles would need to be looked at too. It doesn't make sense to me that the Rail Rifle is both longest range and highest damage. The Blaster Rifle should have the shortest range and highest damage potential. The Rail Rifle should be a stupid long range (think nearly sniper rifle range) peashooter skewed towards armor. The Combat Rifle should have slightly more damage potential than the Scrambler Rifle, though slightly less range (skewed towards armor and shields respectively). Keep in mind, this is all IMHO.
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Jacques Cayton II
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Templis Dragonaors
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Posted - 2013.11.27 22:59:00 -
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Shruikan Iceeye
0uter.Heaven
Proficiency V.
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Posted - 2013.11.28 03:55:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:
Then you must have stood out of cover for FAR too long.
My stacked damage mods + proficiency Duvolle does around 180 DPS at 30%.
Considering the AR can fire 4.8 seconds before reloading, which is 860 total damage, that's less than some Logi suits.
They might have been getting headshots, in which case they deserve the kill since at that range the head is tiny.
Youre assuming a lot of things.
If he/she fired 10 round bursts, there would be zero recoil and a decent shot could hit most rounds.
Even at 80 yards. |
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Posted - 2013.11.28 04:04:00 -
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTEoWijPFvM
Hey look, proof that the AR is ridiculous!
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