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negative49er
Krusual Covert Operators
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.11.27 11:55:00 -
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There is no clear way of dodging it and it sometime do a 180 when you get behind cover. It range make it easy to tower swarm and it high dmg for a skillless weapon need some sort of a nerf. I'm a proto swarmer and a madruger pilot, therefore i know both perception. I know a tank can be a serious problem and i know the swarm launcher is a serious threat for a skillless weapon.
Negative49er know tanks are bad
Splinter ops know swarms are bad
It almost impossible to outrun swarms even in an assault dropship as well( yes i have a incubus) 5vers
I use everything
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splinter ops
Mannar Focused Warfare
Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2013.11.27 12:01:00 -
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swarms are bad people |
Kasote Denzara
A Vulture
971
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Posted - 2013.11.27 12:03:00 -
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I hate swarms. I try to run from them but they always manage to find me. Not only that, but they hurt so much when they get at my weak points. Not even running underground helps!
Damn wasps!
SWEET MOTHER OF TERESA ON THE HOOD OF A MERCEDES BENZ, YOU SOUND LIKE A MAJESTIC FUCKING EAGLE! CAN YOU SING?!
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Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star.
EoN.
1789
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Posted - 2013.11.27 12:37:00 -
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Swarms is a skillless weapon and giving them the range over the entire battlefield is a joke
This patch will deter the scrubs, only those who can make it work will stay which is prob 1% of the entire swarm userbase |
calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F
Public Disorder.
1293
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Posted - 2013.11.27 13:39:00 -
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swarms never do 180's, what they do is move straight at you if they are within 20m or so.
until 20m they are slow lazy arcing missles.
as a vehicle user if you want to get behind cover that path of the missles needs to be between you and the missles, but because they are lazy arcing up until 20m you can expect them to take a wide curve to reach you. |
Mortedeamor
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL
Top Men.
878
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Posted - 2013.11.27 13:41:00 -
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it is thats why u dont see me complaining about it |
Mortedeamor
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL
Top Men.
878
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Posted - 2013.11.27 13:42:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Swarms is a skillless weapon and giving them the range over the entire battlefield is a joke
This patch will deter the scrubs, only those who can make it work will stay which is prob 1% of the entire swarm userbase
i am the 1% yays |
Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
1397
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Posted - 2013.11.27 14:07:00 -
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I have a question for you OP.
If a weapon has short range (such as blaster turrets), should it do lots of damage?
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Justice Prevails
123
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Posted - 2013.11.27 14:13:00 -
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Don't care about the nerf. Launching missiles at stuff is fun, just like a game should be.
Great job, team. Head back to the MCC for debriefing and cocktails.
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Cody Sietz
Unkn0wn Killers
Renegade Alliance
1613
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Posted - 2013.11.27 14:19:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Swarms is a skillless weapon and giving them the range over the entire battlefield is a joke
This patch will deter the scrubs, only those who can make it work will stay which is prob 1% of the entire swarm userbase
More like we have to choose between the Plasma Cannon or swarms since those are the only two options we have for dealing with vehicle from a distance(as non heavies)
Also, we will have to use swarms when deal with Gallente tech.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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Fizzer94
L.O.T.I.S.
Public Disorder.
1031
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Posted - 2013.11.27 15:23:00 -
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Really!? Swarms are OP? Are you sure? I mean, its not like they are the single easiest weapon to use in the game and their existence makes me ashamed to be Caldari or anything, but are you sure they are performing too well?
/sarcasm
[+ªa¦Ç+¦++-ö-Å94] Level 1 Forum Warrior
The Plasma Cannon is not underpowered
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
1397
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Posted - 2013.11.27 17:19:00 -
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Fizzer94 wrote:Really!? Swarms are OP? Are you sure? I mean, its not like they are the single easiest weapon to use in the game and their existence makes me ashamed to be Caldari or anything, but are you sure they are performing too well?
/sarcasm
Because rotating a turret is soo much more difficult. 
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Sgt Kirk
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
3059
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Posted - 2013.11.27 17:22:00 -
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get on top of hill. Shoot swarm launchers mercilessly from redline with very little risk, armor vehicles (like me) in a rage because "Caldari 514" PTSD flashbacks. |
Green Living
0uter.Heaven
Proficiency V.
992
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Posted - 2013.11.27 17:25:00 -
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I will still hunt and destroy you with my proto swarms. I look forward to profiting off your loss in 1.7.  |
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Kinsho Swords
Caldari State
125
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Posted - 2013.11.27 18:06:00 -
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Why do you people keep saying that a swarm launcher is a " skill less weapon " ?????
It takes skills to acquire the best and they do have more than one branch on their part of the skill tree . It's not like you acquire the swarm launcher and that's it .
The range has already been lessened ... now what else do you want ??? Don't you believe in the " range of new opportunities " that the drop of 1.7 will give to the vehicles and the " bright new horizons " that you will experience with these changes ????
Giving the track record of the collective , the flood of complaints that will come from this launch will be like none this community has EVER experienced and I will be waiting there to say , " Woops .... well I told you so " and I will be GLAD that I ran away with what I was given instead of reinvesting .
DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE ALREADY !!!!!!
" BANE " of ALL vehicle users , Crush , Kill and Destroy ALL vehicles !!!!!
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Smooth Assassin
Stardust incorporation
388
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Posted - 2013.11.27 18:13:00 -
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negative49er wrote:There is no clear way of dodging it and it sometime do a 180 when you get behind cover. It range make it easy to tower swarm and it high dmg for a skillless weapon need some sort of a nerf. I'm a proto swarmer and a madruger pilot, therefore i know both perception. I know a tank can be a serious problem and i know the swarm launcher is a serious threat for a skillless weapon.
Negative49er know tanks are bad
Splinter ops know swarms are bad
It almost impossible to outrun swarms even in an assault dropship as well( yes i have a incubus) 5vers
I hope you get you're respec you wise man.
Assassination is my thing.
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Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
2388
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Posted - 2013.11.27 18:23:00 -
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It was very necessary, but like the flaylock and missiles before them it may be going to far.
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja.
Forum Warrior level 2
A grunt of STB
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Roger Cordill
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
69
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Posted - 2013.11.27 18:28:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Fizzer94 wrote:Really!? Swarms are OP? Are you sure? I mean, its not like they are the single easiest weapon to use in the game and their existence makes me ashamed to be Caldari or anything, but are you sure they are performing too well?
/sarcasm Because rotating a turret is soo much more difficult.
Yea, if it's far more inaccurate..... |
Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
1397
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Posted - 2013.11.27 18:32:00 -
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Roger Cordill wrote:Atiim wrote:Fizzer94 wrote:Really!? Swarms are OP? Are you sure? I mean, its not like they are the single easiest weapon to use in the game and their existence makes me ashamed to be Caldari or anything, but are you sure they are performing too well?
/sarcasm Because rotating a turret is soo much more difficult. Yea, if it's far more inaccurate.....
By that logic, the Assault Rifle is hard to use
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Pvt Numnutz
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement
Caldari State
346
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Posted - 2013.11.27 18:32:00 -
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Atiim wrote:I have a question for you OP.
If a weapon has short range (such as blaster turrets), should it do lots of damage?
175m lock on range is short? My python has to come into your lock on range to attack you? Even if I leave and you manage to get a volly off before I leave 175m they still chase and hit me?
To answer your question, yes blasters should do high damage. However if they locked onto enemies and every bullet hit regardless of evasive then no it shouldn't. |
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negative49er
Krusual Covert Operators
Minmatar Republic
344
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Posted - 2013.11.27 18:36:00 -
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Atiim wrote:I have a question for you OP.
If a weapon has short range (such as blaster turrets), should it do lots of damage?
I have a question if gallente you short range tech and can kill from 100m away is it consider OP
I use everything
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Fox Gaden
Bojo's School of the Trades
1627
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Posted - 2013.11.27 18:44:00 -
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Swarms were balanced once. Then they were buffed twice. I reserve judgement on the upcoming nerfs until they are applied and I have a chance to test the results.
There are several factors involved in using swarms which vehicle operators generally donGÇÖt consider, unless they have attempted to use swarms themselves. The weapon is not inherently unbalanced. It is just unbalanced in its current state.
I do think the interaction between swarm launchers and vehicles would be a lot more balanced and interesting if vehicles got GÇ£LockingGÇ¥, GÇ£Lock onGÇ¥ and GÇ£LaunchGÇ¥ warnings. Currently a vehicle operatorGÇÖs first clue that there is a swarm launcher is when the first swarm hits. It would be more fun if the vehicle operator was able to react as soon as the Swarm Launcher started acquiring its lock. Maybe a slow beep (locking), then a fast beep (locked), fallowed by a tone (incoming).
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