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TechMechMeds
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Posted - 2013.11.26 14:36:00 -
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Karl Marx II wrote:Assault suits starting off with uplinks dropping them down , run to supply depot switch to another suit with another type of uplinks .. drop them down .. do the same again .. then go back and start doing this with nanohives .. then after nanohives have been done they'll go back and switch to a Scanner or something else ... this completely nullifies the point of having 3 equipment slots .. it seems to just mean that you don't have to change into as many different suits at a supply depot
Remove the Equipment slot off Assault suits .. why do they need it If they are supposed to be the 'slayer' role and no one else can do that role then they shouldn't be able to use any equipment because that is a logi's job ...
Any Logi nerf has to be introduced with the Assault suits losing their equipment slot
Agreed, if people want more definition with roles then this should happen.
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TechMechMeds
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Posted - 2013.11.26 14:38:00 -
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In fact if we are going down that route heavies shouldn't be able to use light weapons either.
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Posted - 2013.11.26 14:41:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:You're forgetting that requires a supply depot.
By that logic logis shouldn't have any weapons at all because they can use turret installations.
Not in the slightest, that's not role definition, that's just you taking it to extremes.
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TechMechMeds
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Posted - 2013.11.26 14:49:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:Cat Merc wrote:You're forgetting that requires a supply depot.
By that logic logis shouldn't have any weapons at all because they can use turret installations. Not in the slightest, that's not role definition, that's just you taking it to extremes. Is it? Supply depots allow you to do a logis job, but way slower (4 times to go to a location to do what a logi can do once). Turret installations give you tons of firepower, at the cost of mobility.
Saying logis should only use turrets, did I really just have to point that out? Are you a troll teenybopper?
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TechMechMeds
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Posted - 2013.11.26 14:55:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:Cat Merc wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:Cat Merc wrote:You're forgetting that requires a supply depot.
By that logic logis shouldn't have any weapons at all because they can use turret installations. Not in the slightest, that's not role definition, that's just you taking it to extremes. Is it? Supply depots allow you to do a logis job, but way slower (4 times to go to a location to do what a logi can do once). Turret installations give you tons of firepower, at the cost of mobility. Saying logis should only use turrets, did I really just have to point that out? Are you a troll teenybopper? Logis can still use a weapon no? That's like assaults only having one equipment. Did I really have to point that out? Are you a troll?
You spout nothing but conjecture, nothing worth even thinking about.
Why don't you push for assaults to get buffed instead of trying to gimp logis?
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Posted - 2013.11.26 14:59:00 -
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Karl Marx II wrote:Cat Merc wrote:You're forgetting that requires a supply depot.
By that logic logis shouldn't have any weapons at all because they can use turret installations. Turret Installations aren't built into your suit and everyone can use them .. It's a fair trade in my opinion .. assault suits get to be slayers and logi's get to logi ... if you don;t have equipment then logi's are more needed to fulfill their role and carry hives uplinks etc .. this will incentivise logi's being logi's and assault just being able to focus solely on assaulting, I really don't see the problem that you have with it
Exactly.
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TechMechMeds
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Posted - 2013.11.26 15:05:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:
You spout nothing but conjecture, nothing worth even thinking about.
Why don't you push for assaults to get buffed instead of trying to gimp logis?
I don't even think you understand the words you use. Also, I am pushing for a logi nerf because it would have the same net effect as buffing assaults, scouts and heavies (buffing assaults would require to buff the others), but one requires more work than the other.
Nice try, no buffing assault is better because actual logis like myself don't get gimped and assaults would be better at assault than any logi used for slaying, think about it.
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TechMechMeds
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Posted - 2013.11.26 15:07:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Karl Marx II wrote:
Sorry Cat but you sound like a nerf everything but the assault suit and don;t nerf my suit kinda guy ...
If you want defined roles then thats fine, im a true logi anyway but I have always disliked assaults having an equipment slot .. if you have 2 logis in your squad with equipment you don't need assaults with equipment as well ... if you want assaults to be the ones doign the killing then why do they need equipment ? Logi's can scan, drop hives, rep, revive, place remotes etc etc whilst you can get on with killing people
Am I calling for a heavy nerf? A scout nerf? No, I am calling for a logi nerf because they are fricking OP. As for the rest of the post, it's because logis still expect to keep weapons and grenades. If you want assaults to have no equipment at all, then give up your weapons and grenades completely.
Why nerf the logi when a buffed assault would keep everyone happy, a buffed assault would mean even slayer logis are sub par than assault.
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TechMechMeds
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Posted - 2013.11.26 15:13:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Karl Marx II wrote:
Sorry Cat but you sound like a nerf everything but the assault suit and don;t nerf my suit kinda guy ...
If you want defined roles then thats fine, im a true logi anyway but I have always disliked assaults having an equipment slot .. if you have 2 logis in your squad with equipment you don't need assaults with equipment as well ... if you want assaults to be the ones doign the killing then why do they need equipment ? Logi's can scan, drop hives, rep, revive, place remotes etc etc whilst you can get on with killing people
Am I calling for a heavy nerf? A scout nerf? No, I am calling for a logi nerf because they are fricking OP. As for the rest of the post, it's because logis still expect to keep weapons and grenades. If you want assaults to have no equipment at all, then give up your weapons and grenades completely. Why nerf the logi when a buffed assault would keep everyone happy, a buffed assault would mean even slayer logis are sub par than assault. It's called power creep nub. You can't just buff EVERYTHING because one thing is OP.
Why not though? Logis are happy with their suits, why change that when you can buff the assault to be better and even better than any slayer logi?
And compared to me you are the nub, I have almost 3 times the kills, wp and better k/d than you with almost 23mil sp so be quiet.
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TechMechMeds
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Posted - 2013.11.26 15:18:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Karl Marx II wrote:
Really?
Because the entire point of this thread is that assaults can use supply depots to do the job of logis.
I just showed how logis can do the job of assaults.
Do assaults stand in remote places of the map shooting at people and not able to hack or cover any points ? No .. point is flawed
Do logis run around supply depots in a remote corner of the map?
No, point is flawed.[/quote]
Hold on, that's your post, you are arguing with yourself now, that's the icing on the cake for me, I'm now simply going to ignore anything you ever post.
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TechMechMeds
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Posted - 2013.11.26 15:21:00 -
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Karl Marx II wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Karl Marx II wrote:
Really?
Because the entire point of this thread is that assaults can use supply depots to do the job of logis.
I just showed how logis can do the job of assaults.
Do assaults stand in remote places of the map shooting at people and not able to hack or cover any points ? No .. point is flawed Hold on, that's your post, you are arguing with yourself now, that's the icing on the cake for me, I'm now simply going to ignore anything you ever post. No I deleted the quote thing .. it was actually Cat Mercs post
I know, he tried to make it look like you posted it, ridiculous.
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TechMechMeds
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Posted - 2013.11.26 15:24:00 -
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I think the fix is to buff assaults, that way us logis stay happy, assaults get happy and if done right no slayer logi statistically will do better than an assault but player skill will always be a factor.
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TechMechMeds
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Posted - 2013.11.26 15:34:00 -
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Daxxis KANNAH wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:I think the fix is to buff assaults, that way us logis stay happy, assaults get happy and if done right no slayer logi statistically will do better than an assault but player skill will always be a factor. And Heavies ??? Oh and scouts should just stay at home and knit.
They need a buff but that's a different topic.
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Posted - 2013.11.26 15:46:00 -
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Morathi III wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:I think the fix is to buff assaults, that way us logis stay happy, assaults get happy and if done right no slayer logi statistically will do better than an assault but player skill will always be a factor. Such a bad idea.... And the scout? And the Heavy, your post doesnt make any sens at alll, you got a garbage logic on this one
Not at all, buffing scouts and heavies is a separate topic, read the thread title.
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Posted - 2013.11.26 15:53:00 -
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Morathi III wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:Morathi III wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:I think the fix is to buff assaults, that way us logis stay happy, assaults get happy and if done right no slayer logi statistically will do better than an assault but player skill will always be a factor. Such a bad idea.... And the scout? And the Heavy, your post doesnt make any sens at alll, you got a garbage logic on this one Not at all, buffing scouts and heavies is a separate topic, read the thread title. One instead of 3 , if you reduce high low of logi you can less EHP tank and focus on your role
Sorry but you say I have garbage logic, then you propose this? How can I focus on my role when I'd be getting killed ridiculously easy? I need that hp as a medic logi.
I use ADV weapons at most but usually std weapons so I can fit ADV equipment with a decent tank to shrug off bullets as I heal or when I shield people when I revive them which by the way gets me killed every time because of the current ttk so I can't even do that anymore.
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TechMechMeds
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Posted - 2013.11.26 16:07:00 -
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I use ADV weapons at most but usually std weapons so I can fit ADV equipment with a decent tank to shrug off bullets as I heal or when I shield people when I revive them which by the way gets me killed every time because of the current ttk so I can't even do that anymore. [/quote]
TTK kill the game actually, you have scanner , so use it, you know when its time to go to heal with a scanner, i have seen your Amarr logi in a pub in the previous build, its a tank!!! Not a logi [/quote]
I carry an injector, hives and rep tool, I use the scanner setup when I'm on my own or theres only 1 or two other people in my corp online.
You still haven't answered my question, how can I logi if I am easy to kill, if you have seen me you should know I go above and beyond to keep people alive, even random blues, I'd have to hide a lot if I had a tiny amount of hp.
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TechMechMeds
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Posted - 2013.11.26 16:13:00 -
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Karl Marx II wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Karl Marx II wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Karl Marx II wrote:
Remove the equipment slot full stop regardless what happens to the logi suit .. heavies don't get an equipment slot so why should assault suits ??
That's one of the main balancing ponits of the heavy. The fact that the HMG is underwhelming doesn't mean that heavy suits aren't incredibly powerful if they fit something like a light weapon. No equipment keeps them in check. And if you nerf logi's and make assaults better at killing then surely they fall in the same category as heavies and will need the equipment slot removed to keep them in check too As I said, it hugely depends on how much of a nerf logis get. so if the logi suit doesn;t get nerfed yet the assault suit gets a huge buff eg 10 extra high and low slots and 1k cpu and PG then you;d keep the equipment slot because the logi suit wasn;t nerfed ? Lol I've just realised that this is a total waste of time You simply refuse to compromise so .. you know what .. No .. Logi suits shouldn't get nerfed and assault suits shouldn't get buffed they are fine as they are .. HTFU and get good scrub I can be unreasonable and immature as well I offered to ditch all my weapon slots and grenade slots on the logi suits in exchange for the equipment slot being removed on the assault suit and you still rejected that because you want to keep that equipment slot ... I don;t want a sidearm as my only weapon I'd rather have no weapon and have assault suits lose their equipment slot than run around with a useless weapon .. how can I kill an AR/RR/CR/ScR user with a flipping submachine gun/scrambler pistol/flaylock pistol or nova knives ?? Everything you're arguing for is what you want not what is actually fair .. and I'm not wasting my time with you
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TechMechMeds
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Posted - 2013.11.26 16:21:00 -
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Morathi III wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:I carry an injector, hives and rep tool, I use the scanner setup when I'm on my own or theres only 1 or two other people in my corp online.
You still haven't answered my question, how can I logi if I am easy to kill, if you have seen me you should know I go above and beyond to keep people alive, even random blues, I'd have to hide a lot if I had a tiny amount of hp. Suppose to be intended in hidding or stay in the backfield witha logi, so yes you have to hide not like a svout but in a different way, the goal s not to give you the HP of the scout lol, but a bit less than assault, if exemple we remove 1 high/ 1 low appear that can make sense to me , logi arent suppose to be able top quality frontliner, they are support, with the quality of equipment CCP give all the freaking WP you get....i play scout, wow yes i can have a side arm.... STD not more
Yes I know but how can I support on the front lines with a lame amount of hp? Do you even know how much you get shot at being a medic?
Don't you think it would be better to just buff assaults (along with scouts and heavies) so that Logis are happy, assaults become happy and any slayer logi fit would still statistically be sub par to assault?
We don't need to nerf anything.
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Posted - 2013.11.26 17:00:00 -
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Morathi III wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:Morathi III wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:I carry an injector, hives and rep tool, I use the scanner setup when I'm on my own or theres only 1 or two other people in my corp online.
You still haven't answered my question, how can I logi if I am easy to kill, if you have seen me you should know I go above and beyond to keep people alive, even random blues, I'd have to hide a lot if I had a tiny amount of hp. Suppose to be intended in hidding or stay in the backfield witha logi, so yes you have to hide not like a svout but in a different way, the goal s not to give you the HP of the scout lol, but a bit less than assault, if exemple we remove 1 high/ 1 low appear that can make sense to me , logi arent suppose to be able top quality frontliner, they are support, with the quality of equipment CCP give all the freaking WP you get....i play scout, wow yes i can have a side arm.... STD not more Yes I know but how can I support on the front lines with a lame amount of hp? Do you even know how much you get shot at being a medic? Don't you think it would be better to just buff assaults (along with scouts and heavies) so that Logis are happy, assaults become happy and any slayer logi fit would still statistically be sub par to assault? We don't neeld to nerf anything. -If we buff the 3 other class in same time, yes its a good idea Tech, but like me you are there since the close beta right? In same time forget it for CCP lol, in my opinion Lame amount of HP? Only 1 high/ 1 low less doesnt bring you to lame honestly, just losing in 1 vs 1 has intended in my opinion, good logi will stay good with that, false logi will return assault suit....
No my closed beta code didn't even work but I got on to downloading the day open beta went live.
Oh 1 high and 1 low less, I thought you meant having just 1 high and 1 low lol. I'd be fine with that but all that would do is make the current fake Logis go back to assault and leave us proper logis gimped, fotm will ruin everything if we keep nerfing.
Just buff assaults heavies and scouts, no nerf.
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