DUST Search - BPO's fall Under LIMITATION OF LIABILITY (So does everything else in Dust)

Cymek Omnius wrote:

DudE Just Die wrote:

"LIMITATION OF LIABILITY
IN NO EVENT WILL CCP, ITS LICENSORS, OR ITS SUPPLIERS BE LIABLE TO ANY PARTY FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, SPECIAL OR OTHER CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES ARISING OUT OF OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE USE OF OR INABILITY TO USE THIS SITE OR ANY SOFTWARE, CONTENT, INFORMATION, OR LINKED WEB SITE CONTAINED IN OR ASSOCIATED WITH THE SITE, INCLUDING, WITHOUT LIMITATION, ANY LOST PROFITS, DISCLOSURE OF CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION, BUSINESS INTERRUPTION, OR OTHERWISE, WHETHER BASED IN TORT (INCLUDING NEGLIGENCE), CONTRACT OR OTHER LEGAL THEORY, EVEN IF CCP, ITS LICENSORS, OR ITS SUPPLIERS ARE EXPRESSLY ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES. IN NO EVENT WILL CCP, ITS LICENSORS, OR ITS SUPPLIERS BE LIABLE FOR ANY DAMAGES INCURRED BY YOU.

YOU ACKNOWLEDGE AND AGREE THAT YOUR SOLE AND EXCLUSIVE REMEDY FOR ANY DISPUTE WITH CCP IS TO STOP USING THE SITE AND ANY RELATED SERVICES, AND TO CANCEL AND TERMINATE ALL ACCOUNTS REGISTERED TO YOU."

Terms of use
https://dust514.com/terms-of-use/

I was wondering what changed.

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DudE Just Die Red Star. EoN. 53	Posted - 2013.11.25 19:18:00 - [1] - Quote "LIMITATION OF LIABILITY IN NO EVENT WILL CCP, ITS LICENSORS, OR ITS SUPPLIERS BE LIABLE TO ANY PARTY FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, SPECIAL OR OTHER CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES ARISING OUT OF OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE USE OF OR INABILITY TO USE THIS SITE OR ANY SOFTWARE, CONTENT, INFORMATION, OR LINKED WEB SITE CONTAINED IN OR ASSOCIATED WITH THE SITE, INCLUDING, WITHOUT LIMITATION, ANY LOST PROFITS, DISCLOSURE OF CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION, BUSINESS INTERRUPTION, OR OTHERWISE, WHETHER BASED IN TORT (INCLUDING NEGLIGENCE), CONTRACT OR OTHER LEGAL THEORY, EVEN IF CCP, ITS LICENSORS, OR ITS SUPPLIERS ARE EXPRESSLY ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES. IN NO EVENT WILL CCP, ITS LICENSORS, OR ITS SUPPLIERS BE LIABLE FOR ANY DAMAGES INCURRED BY YOU. YOU ACKNOWLEDGE AND AGREE THAT YOUR SOLE AND EXCLUSIVE REMEDY FOR ANY DISPUTE WITH CCP IS TO STOP USING THE SITE AND ANY RELATED SERVICES, AND TO CANCEL AND TERMINATE ALL ACCOUNTS REGISTERED TO YOU." Terms of use https://dust514.com/terms-of-use/
DudE Just Die Red Star. EoN. 53	Posted - 2013.11.25 19:21:00 - [2] - Quote In other words "There's the Door"
Pvt Numnutz Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 318	Posted - 2013.11.25 19:44:00 - [3] - Quote Maybe the crusaders will get it if its cap, bold, and underlined. Here's hoping!
Ploo-Koon Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 401	Posted - 2013.11.25 19:47:00 - [4] - Quote Pvt Numnutz wrote: Maybe the crusaders will get it if its cap, bold, and underlined. Here's hoping! If logic and reason were the staples of the BPO QQing they would have a point. (GöÉGöî ).....[ a¦Å^Gûá ].....{ a¦Å\°/a¦Å }.....( : : )
Sigberct Amni Goonfeet Top Men. 218	Posted - 2013.11.25 19:49:00 - [5] - Quote We've already hashed it out many times. CCP can do a lot of things. The question is whether or not they should and what the repercussions of doing so are.
8213 BIG BAD W0LVES 810	Posted - 2013.11.25 19:50:00 - [6] - Quote Law has more weight than a EULA. At no point can a contract(EULA) over rule a law. I can't have you sign a contract saying it's okay for me to steal your car or kill you. Everyone knows what EULA says, what the gripe is about is if it breaches the LAW.
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 2326	Posted - 2013.11.25 19:52:00 - [7] - Quote Well there you go folks. You're not allowed to complain about anything. So next time they make a weapon OP, or a suit useless, you can't post here about it, because CCP hasn't broken any laws. You just have to bend over and take what's coming. No.
A'Real Fury D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 442	Posted - 2013.11.25 20:00:00 - [8] - Quote Contracts are binding so long as they do not contravene the laws for that nation. However, for me it is not about the law or Eula. It is more about trust and perception. You may be acting within the law/Eula when you do something but that doesn't mean people are going to like it or accept it. If you stop trusting someone you are less likely to spend money with them.
Pvt Numnutz Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 318	Posted - 2013.11.25 20:04:00 - [9] - Quote Sigberct Amni wrote: We've already hashed it out many times. CCP can do a lot of things. The question is whether or not they should and what the repercussions of doing so are. Well that's the most clear headed way I've heard it put. Though its still pretty silly to jump to conclusions like its a conspiracy to remove all bpos. Like they watched waaay to much law an order and this is what "opens the door" for their scheme to remove all bpos. The door has always been open, and we all agreed to that. Should they? They determined the answer was yes. The repercussions? Idiots clogging up the forums, feeling hurt and betrayed, threatening to not buy aur again. They gave them their aur back for very useless items. I informed a friend on this matter, he was stoked he was getting aur back to spend on a booster to get more sp for stuff in 1.7. As I would be if I had these bpos. I spend money on dust if I like the development and want to pay ccp for their work. What are these people spending money on aur for?
Sigberct Amni Goonfeet Top Men. 218	Posted - 2013.11.25 20:07:00 - [10] - Quote Pvt Numnutz wrote: Sigberct Amni wrote: We've already hashed it out many times. CCP can do a lot of things. The question is whether or not they should and what the repercussions of doing so are. Well that's the most clear headed way I've heard it put. Though its still pretty silly to jump to conclusions like its a conspiracy to remove all bpos. Like they watched waaay to much law an order and this is what "opens the door" for their scheme to remove all bpos. The door has always been open, and we all agreed to that. Should they? They determined the answer was yes. The repercussions? Idiots clogging up the forums, feeling hurt and betrayed, threatening to not buy aur again. They gave them their aur back for very useless items. I informed a friend on this matter, he was stoked he was getting aur back to spend on a booster to get more sp for stuff in 1.7. As I would be if I had these bpos. I spend money on dust if I like the development and want to pay ccp for their work. What are these people spending money on aur for? What about BPO's that weren't directly purchased for aurum? IE- pretty much all BPO's. What if I bought a merc pack for the BPO's and considered everything else as bonus? Am I just an idiot clogging up the forums?

Slag Emberforge Immortal Retribution 142	Posted - 2013.11.25 20:23:00 - [11] - Quote ITT EVE fanboys suckling the teat of CCP and making excuses for unethical business practices.
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 5400	Posted - 2013.11.25 20:28:00 - [12] - Quote Internet lawyers and whiners everywhere. Level 5 Forum Warrior Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution Supporter of CCP raRaRa.
Dunk Mujunk RestlessSpirits 329	Posted - 2013.11.25 20:43:00 - [13] - Quote SCEA Purchase and use of items are subject to the Network Terms of Service and User Agreement. This online service has been sublicensed to you by Sony Computer Entertainment America. SCEE Any content purchased in an in-game store will be purchased from Sony Network Entertainment Europe Limited (GÇ£SNEEGÇ¥) and be subject to Sony Entertainment Network Terms of Service and User Agreement which is available on the PlayStation-«Store. Please check usage rights for each purchase as these may differ from item to item. Come on people, there has got to be at least 1 BPO crusader who is actually in this mess for a real reason, not for the beauty contest. You see that sht up there? You know what that means? It doesn't mean i'm saying HTFU. It doesn't mean CCP is saying HFTU. It means- Any content purchased in an in-game store will be purchased from Sony Network Entertainment Europe Limited* So, if you purchase something from Sony,and you want a refund.............
Audrey2 Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 2	Posted - 2013.11.25 23:56:00 - [14] - Quote legality aside, there is an unspoken contract here between our business with CCP. its based off trust. the same kind of trust you give your favorite restaurant that they wont poison you or serve you rat meat. the same trust you give your barber that he/she wont shave a dck into the back of your head. the same trust you give ANY store that the item you purchased is in the box.... ccp effectively removed that item from the box, and betrayed this trust I speak of. its a good business model. we are making sure ccp understands this.... SAY NO TO BPO REMOVALS!*
deepfried salad gilliam Sanguine Knights 156	Posted - 2013.11.26 00:39:00 - [15] - Quote 8213 wrote: Law has more weight than a EULA. At no point can a contract(EULA) over rule a law. I can't have you sign a contract saying it's okay for me to steal your car or kill you. Everyone knows what EULA says, what the gripe is about is if it breaches the LAW. You cant allow someone to steal from you because that's not stealing if they have permision You can't allow someone to kill you because you don't have the legal right to kill your self Christ is lord Sanguine knights , open recruitment, join now. Free tacos
Cymek Omnius Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2013.11.26 00:45:00 - [16] - Quote DudE Just Die wrote: "LIMITATION OF LIABILITY IN NO EVENT WILL CCP, ITS LICENSORS, OR ITS SUPPLIERS BE LIABLE TO ANY PARTY FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, SPECIAL OR OTHER CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES ARISING OUT OF OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE USE OF OR INABILITY TO USE THIS SITE OR ANY SOFTWARE, CONTENT, INFORMATION, OR LINKED WEB SITE CONTAINED IN OR ASSOCIATED WITH THE SITE, INCLUDING, WITHOUT LIMITATION, ANY LOST PROFITS, DISCLOSURE OF CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION, BUSINESS INTERRUPTION, OR OTHERWISE, WHETHER BASED IN TORT (INCLUDING NEGLIGENCE), CONTRACT OR OTHER LEGAL THEORY, EVEN IF CCP, ITS LICENSORS, OR ITS SUPPLIERS ARE EXPRESSLY ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES. IN NO EVENT WILL CCP, ITS LICENSORS, OR ITS SUPPLIERS BE LIABLE FOR ANY DAMAGES INCURRED BY YOU. YOU ACKNOWLEDGE AND AGREE THAT YOUR SOLE AND EXCLUSIVE REMEDY FOR ANY DISPUTE WITH CCP IS TO STOP USING THE SITE AND ANY RELATED SERVICES, AND TO CANCEL AND TERMINATE ALL ACCOUNTS REGISTERED TO YOU." Terms of use https://dust514.com/terms-of-use/ I was wondering what changed.
Audrey2 Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 4	Posted - 2013.11.26 01:32:00 - [17] - Quote Cymek Omnius wrote: DudE Just Die wrote: "LIMITATION OF LIABILITY IN NO EVENT WILL CCP, ITS LICENSORS, OR ITS SUPPLIERS BE LIABLE TO ANY PARTY FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, SPECIAL OR OTHER CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES ARISING OUT OF OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE USE OF OR INABILITY TO USE THIS SITE OR ANY SOFTWARE, CONTENT, INFORMATION, OR LINKED WEB SITE CONTAINED IN OR ASSOCIATED WITH THE SITE, INCLUDING, WITHOUT LIMITATION, ANY LOST PROFITS, DISCLOSURE OF CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION, BUSINESS INTERRUPTION, OR OTHERWISE, WHETHER BASED IN TORT (INCLUDING NEGLIGENCE), CONTRACT OR OTHER LEGAL THEORY, EVEN IF CCP, ITS LICENSORS, OR ITS SUPPLIERS ARE EXPRESSLY ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES. IN NO EVENT WILL CCP, ITS LICENSORS, OR ITS SUPPLIERS BE LIABLE FOR ANY DAMAGES INCURRED BY YOU. YOU ACKNOWLEDGE AND AGREE THAT YOUR SOLE AND EXCLUSIVE REMEDY FOR ANY DISPUTE WITH CCP IS TO STOP USING THE SITE AND ANY RELATED SERVICES, AND TO CANCEL AND TERMINATE ALL ACCOUNTS REGISTERED TO YOU." Terms of use https://dust514.com/terms-of-use/ I was wondering what changed. what changed is the unwritten contract we had with ccp I wrote about 2 or 3 posts above.... SAY NO TO BPO REMOVALS!
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 5314	Posted - 2013.11.26 01:40:00 - [18] - Quote Is there anyone here who is a real lawyer in real life who specializes in consumer protection laws to help shed some light on this? This is getting out of hand and we need real experts here to clear this out. ... No, I'm not asking for an internet lawyer. A real lawyer. CCP, thank you for hotfixing the knives. But please make sure they're at their full potential in 1.7.


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