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Sarcastic Dreamkiller
Northwind Alliance Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2013.11.25 18:38:00 -
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get a player market at all
That way, everyone on here whining about the nonexistent market and the BPO's can either shut up and leave, or wallow in the disappointment that they already knew was coming. |
Pvt Numnutz
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State
317
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Posted - 2013.11.25 18:44:00 -
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I too don't understand making judgment calls on an economy that doesn't exist in the game yet. Though I do want them to integrate the economies of eve and dust. Then I could buy a whole orca full of dropships from my industrialist friend in eve. I'm all about that eve dust link. Bpo complaints are stupid, I know your frustration.
Let's not give up on merging the economies though, that's a really cool concept that should continue to be worked on. |
Kane Fyea
DUST University Ivy League
2251
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Posted - 2013.11.25 18:47:00 -
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Pvt Numnutz wrote:I too don't understand making judgment calls on an economy that doesn't exist in the game yet. Though I do want them to integrate the economies of eve and dust. Then I could buy a whole orca full of dropships from my industrialist friend in eve. I'm all about that eve dust link. Bpo complaints are stupid, I know your frustration.
Let's not give up on merging the economies though, that's a really cool concept that should continue to be worked on. You do know that eve to dust isk will be heavily taxed at first right? 10 eve isk = about 1 dust isk. I mean if your rich then I guess you wouldn't care. |
Roger Cordill
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
45
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Posted - 2013.11.25 18:49:00 -
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Kane Fyea wrote:Pvt Numnutz wrote:I too don't understand making judgment calls on an economy that doesn't exist in the game yet. Though I do want them to integrate the economies of eve and dust. Then I could buy a whole orca full of dropships from my industrialist friend in eve. I'm all about that eve dust link. Bpo complaints are stupid, I know your frustration.
Let's not give up on merging the economies though, that's a really cool concept that should continue to be worked on. You do know that eve to dust isk will be heavily taxed at first right? 10 eve isk = about 1 dust isk. I mean if your rich then I guess you wouldn't care.
Think of how much ISK new Cap's could make off of old Merc's though? |
Sarcastic Dreamkiller
Northwind Alliance Dark Taboo
69
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Posted - 2013.11.25 18:54:00 -
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Pvt Numnutz wrote:I too don't understand making judgment calls on an economy that doesn't exist in the game yet. Though I do want them to integrate the economies of eve and dust. Then I could buy a whole orca full of dropships from my industrialist friend in eve. I'm all about that eve dust link. Bpo complaints are stupid, I know your frustration.
Let's not give up on merging the economies though, that's a really cool concept that should continue to be worked on. It's a very cool concept i agree, but we all know that the whiners will still find something to whine about no matter how cool or good it is. The whiners just want everything their way and can't acknowledge that they are the minority of the playerbase. |
VAHZZ
Gallente Federation
338
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Posted - 2013.11.25 19:01:00 -
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*looks at post* well you sir- *looks at name*..need to go to troll school.
The merc with a mouth - beware of random bouts of insanity! - and trolling
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Proud Sniper Scout
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Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders
1936
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Posted - 2013.11.25 19:03:00 -
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We're already using the global market in New Eden and it's necessary for real integration between the games. It'll be a good thing when it arrives.
// Logistics / Scout / Dropship Pilot Trainee // https://twitter.com/reesnoturana
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Sarcastic Dreamkiller
Northwind Alliance Dark Taboo
69
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Posted - 2013.11.25 19:05:00 -
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VAHZZ wrote:*looks at post* well you sir- *looks at name*..need to go to troll school. I'm not trolling. I would rather we never get the player market than let them whine about how it's not what they envisioned. |
Sigberct Amni
Goonfeet Top Men.
217
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Posted - 2013.11.25 19:06:00 -
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I'm going to say something that might blow your mind here.
Fiat currency, markets, economies are all based on faith.
We were told player trading would happen and that all things would be tradeable. It may or may not have been explicitly said exactly like that, but it was implied due to the universe dust shares with eve. This means that players have already been making speculative moves.
People bought into cheap BPO's because they believed the market would exist and other people would want to buy them. If you had been paying attention, you also would have noticed other module price changes. Charge sniper rifles, Proto vehicle speed mods and more. I personally bought 2000 charged sniper rifles after the massive isk refund, back when the price was under 1000 each. Now, they sell for something much more than that. 15k?
The point is - the market existed the day the game released and to change the rules, products or deny it now is a breach of that faith players put into the game. Sure, they can probably legally do so but morally? It's a ****** bait-n-switch, nothing more. |
Sarcastic Dreamkiller
Northwind Alliance Dark Taboo
69
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Posted - 2013.11.25 19:25:00 -
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Sigberct Amni wrote:I'm going to say something that might blow your mind here.
Fiat currency, markets, economies are all based on faith.
We were told player trading would happen and that all things would be tradeable. It may or may not have been explicitly said exactly like that, but it was implied due to the universe dust shares with eve. This means that players have already been making speculative moves.
People bought into cheap BPO's because they believed the market would exist and other people would want to buy them. If you had been paying attention, you also would have noticed other module price changes. Charge sniper rifles, Proto vehicle speed mods and more. I personally bought 2000 charged sniper rifles after the massive isk refund, back when the price was under 1000 each. Now, they sell for something much more than that. 15k?
The point is - the market existed the day the game released and to change the rules, products or deny it now is a breach of that faith players put into the game. Sure, they can probably legally do so but morally? It's a ****** bait-n-switch, nothing more. Mind not blown All that did was verify what I already thought, that all the whiners have faith and beliefs that have not been going their way (welcome to life) and they will continue to complain about it.
-I'm not saying that you personally are complaining, but there are many who do (and way too often) |
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Sigberct Amni
Goonfeet Top Men.
217
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Posted - 2013.11.25 19:47:00 -
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Just because you have no skin in the game does not make the opinions of those that do any less valid. If you do own BPOs and are telling people to HTFU, well uh that's just like, your opinion, man. |
Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
1160
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Posted - 2013.11.25 20:03:00 -
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Sigberct Amni wrote:I'm going to say something that might blow your mind here.
Fiat currency, markets, economies are all based on faith.
We were told player trading would happen and that all things would be tradeable. It may or may not have been explicitly said exactly like that, but it was implied due to the universe dust shares with eve. This means that players have already been making speculative moves.
People bought into cheap BPO's because they believed the market would exist and other people would want to buy them. If you had been paying attention, you also would have noticed other module price changes. Charge sniper rifles, Proto vehicle speed mods and more. I personally bought 2000 charged sniper rifles after the massive isk refund, back when the price was under 1000 each. Now, they sell for something much more than that. 15k?
The point is - the market existed the day the game released and to change the rules, products or deny it now is a breach of that faith players put into the game. Sure, they can probably legally do so but morally? It's a ****** bait-n-switch, nothing more. Charge Sniper Rifles used to be 2k each, they're now 47k each.
Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives
Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten
Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta
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Sarcastic Dreamkiller
Northwind Alliance Dark Taboo
70
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Posted - 2013.11.25 20:05:00 -
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Sigberct Amni wrote:Just because you have no skin in the game does not make the opinions of those that do any less valid. If you do own BPOs and are telling people to HTFU, well uh that's just like, your opinion, man. I never said they were any less valid, I just said they were complaining too much, how would you feel if I posted my opinion on here over and over and over again about something that didn't go my way? (would that not be excessive and annoying?) I do own BPO's, but I couldn't care less what happens to them, and I'm not telling anyone to HTFU I just want to scroll through the forums and not see the same topics and posts over and over again. |
Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
1161
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Posted - 2013.11.25 20:10:00 -
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Sarcastic Dreamkiller wrote:Sigberct Amni wrote:Just because you have no skin in the game does not make the opinions of those that do any less valid. If you do own BPOs and are telling people to HTFU, well uh that's just like, your opinion, man. I never said they were any less valid, I just said they were complaining too much, how would you feel if I posted my opinion on here over and over and over again about something that didn't go my way? (would that not be excessive and annoying?) I do own BPO's, but I couldn't care less what happens to them, and I'm not telling anyone to HTFU I just want to scroll through the forums and not see the same topics and posts over and over again. You've really only got one guy to blame for that and I'm fairly certain that he is only doing it for one of two reasons: 1) to be a troll 2) he really is that much of a whiny entitled *****
Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives
Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten
Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta
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Sarcastic Dreamkiller
Northwind Alliance Dark Taboo
70
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Posted - 2013.11.25 20:16:00 -
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I'm sorry for the venting guys, It's just really irritating to log on to the forums and see nothing but complaining day in and day out. but, venting over thanks |
Audrey2
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
10
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Posted - 2013.11.26 04:54:00 -
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Sarcastic Dreamkiller wrote:I'm sorry for the venting guys, It's just really irritating to log on to the forums and see nothing but complaining day in and day out. but, venting over thanks
lol so youre qqing about QQ....
you know, the very feeling you feel needing to vent is the same countless dust players are feeling right now because ccp is messing with their money.
what you get to "vent" about us venting, but our venting is QQ?
pots, kettles, anyone?
SAY NO TO BPO REMOVALS!
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Joel II X
AHPA
221
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Posted - 2013.11.26 05:07:00 -
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If it comes and I'm still around, I'll take a peekat the player market and go back to the NPC market once I see those prices you guys will put up. At least I'll be able to sell my officer HMGs. |
CRAZYHORSE ONE EIGHT
CowTek IT Infotech
52
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Posted - 2013.11.26 05:39:00 -
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LOL at BPO's eventually breaking the market.
The ridiculous amount of ISK some corps are pulling from PC districts will be far more market breaking. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
10784
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Posted - 2013.11.26 05:44:00 -
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I wished market was a launch feature.
CPM 0 Secretary
Omni-Soldier Specialist
Current Theme \\= Advanced Scrambler Rifle =// Unlocked
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The dark cloud
The Rainbow Effect
1896
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Posted - 2013.11.26 06:31:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I wished market was a launch feature. And i wished i had a neon glowing baseball bat in dust to punch people.
I shall show you a world, a world which you cant imagine, a world full off butthurt n00bs at the other end of my gun
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Vrain Matari
ZionTCD Public Disorder.
1285
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Posted - 2013.11.26 14:04:00 -
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Sarcastic Dreamkiller wrote:get a player market at all
That way, everyone on here whining about the nonexistent market and the BPO's can either shut up and leave, or wallow in the disappointment that they already knew was coming. Yeah, but....if there was no market, CCP would quit the game too.
I support SP rollover.
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Rasatsu
Much Crying Old Experts
928
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Posted - 2013.11.26 14:09:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I wished market was a launch feature. If wishes were ponies we'd have plenty of horse sashimi. |
calvin b
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
1015
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Posted - 2013.11.26 14:10:00 -
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No I want a market so I can sell items I do not need cheap to my corp or to new players. Everyone needs help once in awhile.
Do not eat the yellow snow
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Vrain Matari
ZionTCD Public Disorder.
1285
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Posted - 2013.11.26 15:18:00 -
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Rasatsu wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I wished market was a launch feature. If wishes were ponies we'd have plenty of horse sashimi. +1 for the lols, you brute ;)
I support SP rollover.
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