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Grand Master Retsof
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
27
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Posted - 2013.11.25 14:51:00 -
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how many profile dampners do I need not to be scanned...?
how is one to be sneaky when everybody can see through walls.......and hills... |
Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
2345
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Posted - 2013.11.25 14:54:00 -
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Depends on the scanner and your class Amarrian scum.
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja.
Forum Warrior level 2
A grunt of STB
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Grand Master Retsof
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
27
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Posted - 2013.11.25 14:56:00 -
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ok...thanks....upper-upper middle class...... |
Saoa Scum
Judge Mercenaries
15
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Posted - 2013.11.25 15:01:00 -
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2 enhanced or 1 complex usually do the trick..even for medium frames.. |
Grand Master Retsof
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
27
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Posted - 2013.11.25 15:08:00 -
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Saoa Scum wrote:2 enhanced or 1 complex usually do the trick..even for medium frames..
thank you....
1 mill isk coming your way in half an hour or so..... |
Anarchide
Greedy Bastards
1542
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Posted - 2013.11.25 15:12:00 -
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I would fit 3; not taking any chances...
If we ever meet ingame, I'll try to scan you. I have all the scanners. I scan everything. I spam scan. It's my hobby.
Greedy Bastards' Hate Lord
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Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders
1931
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Posted - 2013.11.25 15:18:00 -
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Hannari's Guide to Scanning: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=110190&find=unread
// Logistics / Scout / Dropship Pilot Trainee // https://twitter.com/reesnoturana
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Cody Sietz
Unkn0wn Killers Renegade Alliance
1566
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Posted - 2013.11.25 15:24:00 -
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If you have max dampaing skills you can avoid STD scanners on a medium suit.
I think max skill, 1 complex and a enhanced will stop Proto scanners.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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Korvin Lomont
United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION
267
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Posted - 2013.11.25 15:32:00 -
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Well a medium suit hast a base scanprofile of 50db. Now you need to get that value below the active scanner precision.
For a std ISK scanner (46 db) one militia/basic dampener would be enough For an adv scanner (36 db) you would need a complex one (normally a complex one would not be enough but in order to use a complex dampener you need profile dampening at 5 granting you an inherent bonus of 10% to your profile) For a proto scanner (28 db) you need one complex and one advanced dampener For the focussed scanner you would need 4 complex dampeners.
But still the person using a scanner will know that there is somebody in the scanning arc all you can hide through dampeners is your exact position on the tac net. |
Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders
1931
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Posted - 2013.11.25 15:33:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:If you have max dampaing skills you can avoid STD scanners on a medium suit.
I think max skill, 1 complex and a enhanced will stop Proto scanners.
My spreadsheet isn't setup for mixed dampener types but two complex on a medium will avoid the 28 dB with room to spare so an enhanced may work. You need to be a scout to beat the 15 dB though.
I wish CCP would add profile data to the suit fitting window so I can confirm my numbers.
// Logistics / Scout / Dropship Pilot Trainee // https://twitter.com/reesnoturana
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Korvin Lomont
United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION
267
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Posted - 2013.11.25 15:37:00 -
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Reav Hannari wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:If you have max dampaing skills you can avoid STD scanners on a medium suit.
I think max skill, 1 complex and a enhanced will stop Proto scanners. My spreadsheet isn't setup for mixed dampener types but two complex on a medium will avoid the 28 dB with room to spare so an enhanced may work. You need to be a scout to beat the 15 dB though. I wish CCP would add profile data to the suit fitting window so I can confirm my numbers.
Based on my numbers 4 complex dampener + max skill should be enough to avoid the Focussed active scanner (for medium suits) |
knight of 6
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
690
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Posted - 2013.11.25 15:47:00 -
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Korvin Lomont wrote:Reav Hannari wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:If you have max dampaing skills you can avoid STD scanners on a medium suit.
I think max skill, 1 complex and a enhanced will stop Proto scanners. My spreadsheet isn't setup for mixed dampener types but two complex on a medium will avoid the 28 dB with room to spare so an enhanced may work. You need to be a scout to beat the 15 dB though. I wish CCP would add profile data to the suit fitting window so I can confirm my numbers. Based on my numbers 4 complex dampener + max skill should be enough to avoid the Focussed active scanner (for medium suits) running four damps is also suicide fyi
sneeky med frame is a shield tank probably caldari proto
highs take your tank mods lows 2 damps and an armor rep
cal med 50db 10% passive damp cpx damp -25% adv + stacking ~14%
total ~49%
cal proto = ~25db
somebody check my math I'm not sure I got the stacking penalty correct
"God favors the side with the best artillery" ~ Napoleon
Ko6, scout, tanker.
CLOSED BETA VET
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Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders
1932
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Posted - 2013.11.25 15:52:00 -
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Korvin Lomont wrote:Reav Hannari wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:If you have max dampaing skills you can avoid STD scanners on a medium suit.
I think max skill, 1 complex and a enhanced will stop Proto scanners. My spreadsheet isn't setup for mixed dampener types but two complex on a medium will avoid the 28 dB with room to spare so an enhanced may work. You need to be a scout to beat the 15 dB though. I wish CCP would add profile data to the suit fitting window so I can confirm my numbers. Based on my numbers 4 complex dampener + max skill should be enough to avoid the Focussed active scanner (for medium suits)
My tables go up to three modules. I never bother with computing more than that due to stacking penalties and creating a totally lame fit. If you need to avoid the super scanner then best to run a scout suit.
// Logistics / Scout / Dropship Pilot Trainee // https://twitter.com/reesnoturana
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Saoa Scum
Judge Mercenaries
17
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Posted - 2013.11.25 16:08:00 -
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actually medium suit now has 45 db base.. or am i wrong?.. |
knight of 6
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
690
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Posted - 2013.11.25 16:16:00 -
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Saoa Scum wrote:actually medium suit now has 45 db base.. or am i wrong?.. As of yesterday the caldari std frame has 50db and the gallente light frame has 45.
"God favors the side with the best artillery" ~ Napoleon
Ko6, scout, tanker.
CLOSED BETA VET
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Centurion mkII
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
171
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Posted - 2013.11.25 16:18:00 -
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Medium frame? 1enhanced dampener , profile dampening 3
Will my fit work?
Dust 514 Fitting Tool
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Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders
1932
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Posted - 2013.11.25 16:46:00 -
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Saoa Scum wrote:actually medium suit now has 45 db base.. or am i wrong?..
All medium frames have a profile of 50 dB.
// Logistics / Scout / Dropship Pilot Trainee // https://twitter.com/reesnoturana
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Spkr4theDead
Red Star. EoN.
1346
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Posted - 2013.11.25 16:51:00 -
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Reav Hannari wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:If you have max dampaing skills you can avoid STD scanners on a medium suit.
I think max skill, 1 complex and a enhanced will stop Proto scanners. My spreadsheet isn't setup for mixed dampener types but two complex on a medium will avoid the 28 dB with room to spare so an enhanced may work. You need to be a scout to beat the 15 dB though. I wish CCP would add profile data to the suit fitting window so I can confirm my numbers. CCP had a damage modifier value on the fitting screen that was affected by damage mods, but they took it out for some unknown, asinine reason.
Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
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Joel II X
AHPA
219
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Posted - 2013.11.25 16:53:00 -
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Use Scout? |
Vinsarrow
New Eden Blades Of The Azure Zero-Day
110
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Posted - 2013.11.25 17:22:00 -
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Complex & you'll never see "YOU HAVE BEEN SCANNED" every full 5 minutes in your FACE unless they have a proto scanner but the majority never skill that high with scanners |
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