DUST Search - New Player Friendly (or returning player)

Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:

Let's just admit that we don't know the solution to this problem . So this is where we ACT like we care about this game and BEGIN to come together and ACT like adults and find a solution . Matching people in like gear is not a solution . Newer players still will not have fun . That's an insult to their level of understanding . You will only MASK the problem .

Let's STOP talking about respec's , asking for things that we know we will not get ( useless game content and changes that will be counterproductive ) and wasting the time of those who are working to make this game better and increase the player base . Stop talking about how this game is dying and what is wrong ( we all know the core problems ) and begin to come up with solutions . I'm tired of all the complaining and bitterness . It doesn't help nor does it make ANY since and after a while it gets tiring and old .

Time to step up and be part of the solution and stop being part of the problem .

DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE ALREADY !!!!!!

Don't think in not still mad about my tanks CCP . I AM TIRED of this waste of time on nonsensical topics by the collective . Let's make this game better so it can and will become a part of this ( PS3 ) games foundation but also give it a reason to become a part of the PS4 arsenal as well .

Let's STOP wasting time !!!!! Me myself , I don't plan on playing video games when I'm 60 ( living out my golden years and enjoying life hopefully with grandchildren ) and at the rate this is going it won't even be anywhere done even by then .

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Israel Esaias Dem Durrty Boyz 0	Posted - 2013.11.24 07:47:00 - [1] - Quote Hello all, I would like to address something that's bugged me a really long time about this game, and I'm sure you've all experienced it at one point or another. It's about how if you're a new player (or in my case returning player), the game is still really unfair. Being a returning player myself I still find it pretty difficult, although not impossible to take on protosuit using players, but fact is you WILL die going up against a proto-assault stacking damage mods with a duvolle, you can't avoid it. Before people think I'm complaining about the game, I'm really not, I would just like it to be more playable and fair to newer players and players that decide to returne. I mean, you go through academy with one battle of other new players and there really are no instructions as of what to do. They go through that one battle and then are thrown to the wolves, it's just simply unfair to the new guys. What I feel should be done is the implementation of using meta level to determine how battles are set up, like certain level suits only or using meta level numbers (e.g. proto only, milita only or 0-9 for meta level), like have it on a setting that you can put it to. For instance, you're a new player? Have it so they have the option of only entering battles with militia gear using players or whatever they chose. I really feel this would help the player base a lot and allow the game to flourish because then it's fair competition, you can't really complain if you die when using militia gear if you're up against militia gear. Some might say this game is meant to be harsh, but you can't have a game without a player base. I'm curious to hear what you guys think about this. So please feel free to give me your feedback. (: Yo peeps
1st Lieutenant Tiberius 0uter.Heaven Proficiency V. 554	Posted - 2013.11.24 08:08:00 - [2] - Quote The Idea has been tossed around a lot, by myself included. But I think the problem is that there are simply not enough players online to segregate match-making. I'm afraid CCP has dug themselves into a hole on this one. But who knows, I might be wrong. The Sinwarden
Cyzad4 Blackfish Corp. 52	Posted - 2013.11.24 14:15:00 - [3] - Quote This has been brought up A LOT of times and never really addressed. higher lvl equipment = higher sp/isk pay out admittedly won't really stop vet's from jumping into MLT matches and stomping anyway, but would even the playing field some. (Gò»°Gûí°n+ëGò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+ "fuck this I'm out"... ... ..."I'm back"
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Kinsho Swords Caldari State 118	Posted - 2013.11.24 15:10:00 - [4] - Quote Most of you people who play this game should know better than your letting on . IT DOESN'T MATTER ABOUT THE GEAR when your talking about matchmaking , when you come across someone who has a particular weapon maxed out . That's the thing that's mind blowing . This is all I hear , " Let's make the matches go by meta levels " or "Let's not allow prototype gear in certain matches " or " Let's create a system where like plays like and that's how we can solve the matchmaking problem ". ALL WRONG !!!!! Gear is not the deciding factor , nor is it the Meta Levels ( I keep remembering when I wrote a thread about Meta Levels and what is their role in the game ...???... and most told me that Meta Levels once meant something but now they don't because of all the changes that the game has gone threw ) it's the actual skills that makes a difference . What difference does it make if you create a game mode ( so to say ) where you limit the gear that's in a person's arsenal , I.E. : a mode where Advanced is used or a mode where MLT , so that's the only choice of gear that is allowed and you have a vet ( so to say) versus someone that's relatively new , that more experienced player will trump the fairly new player most of the time because the weapons are the same but the performance will be exceedingly different . Not to say in the department of battlefield awareness that the vet has more because that's not always the case . A fairly new person might not understand the mechanics of the game but their battlefield awareness ( from other games or they might be in the military or ex military so they know what to look for ) might give them an edge in that department , but the weapons WILL perform differently . Having your skill tree maxed out makes ALL the difference . Sharpshooter ( not a wasted skill like I have seen some say ) level five , Proficiency level five , Reloading skills level five , Ammo skills level five and any other skill that effects the performance will give SOME type of an advantage . Core skills level five WILL make a difference . I mean , why are you people who play this game acting like these thing DON'T matter or have an effect . Placing people in like gear is NOT a solution . You cannot negate the work that someone has placed into their individual skill tree and that's where the problem is because THAT makes all the difference . You will just have MTL and Advanced stomping or better yet , you will have the truth . Some have played this game longer than others and some have placed their SP's in places that make them more effective . DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE ALREADY !!!!!! " BANE " of ALL vehicle users , Crush , Kill and Destroy ALL vehicles !!!!!
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Kinsho Swords Caldari State 118	Posted - 2013.11.24 15:27:00 - [5] - Quote Let's just admit that we don't know the solution to this problem . So this is where we ACT like we care about this game and BEGIN to come together and ACT like adults and find a solution . Matching people in like gear is not a solution . Newer players still will not have fun . That's an insult to their level of understanding . You will only MASK the problem . Let's STOP talking about respec's , asking for things that we know we will not get ( useless game content and changes that will be counterproductive ) and wasting the time of those who are working to make this game better and increase the player base . Stop talking about how this game is dying and what is wrong ( we all know the core problems ) and begin to come up with solutions . I'm tired of all the complaining and bitterness . It doesn't help nor does it make ANY since and after a while it gets tiring and old . Time to step up and be part of the solution and stop being part of the problem . DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE ALREADY !!!!!! Don't think in not still mad about my tanks CCP . I AM TIRED of this waste of time on nonsensical topics but the collective . Let's make this game better so it can and will become a part of this ( PS3 ) games foundation but also give it a reason to become a part of the PS4 arsenal as well . Let's STOP wasting time !!!!! Me myself , I don't plan on playing video games when I'm 60 ( living out my golden years and enjoying life hopefully with grandchildren ) and at the rate this is going it won't even be anywhere done even by then . " BANE " of ALL vehicle users , Crush , Kill and Destroy ALL vehicles !!!!!
Komodo Jones Chaotik Serenity 219	Posted - 2013.11.24 18:05:00 - [6] - Quote I played in academy recently, almost been playing the game for a year and I wanted to finally try out the hmg on a new character, people were dying because they didn't know how to hit the inertial dampeners while falling out of the mcc...I really don't know what's wrong with keeping new guys fighting other new guys until they hit like 200k war points or something and I don't know why CCP lowered the war point limit to be in academy, what so vets take advantage of new players in the guise of a fresh character less? There will always be people who like to destroy new guys because they're just easy targets but if that's going to happen I say at least lessen how many of them have proto suits, fighting good players with crappy gear is alot easier than fighting good players with good gear. Not a perfect cure-all but that will at least help I think
Shaggy Larry Kinsho Swords Caldari State 0	Posted - 2013.11.24 19:56:00 - [7] - Quote Okay, well I'm a new player myself and Israel is an old buddy of mine, and I agree with him on this one. Or at least like make it so we have to stay with people that are on our own sp level and gear. I don't really know what should be done, but I do agree that it's highly unfair to players like me and other who are fresh out the academy who don't have to means to take on vets or higher sp players. I'm no stranger to FPS games, but when you're going up against someone with proto gear and 25k sp it's going to hurt, the same would go if they were using militia gear though. So something definitely needs to be done about how the game is run, cause I can't keep running games and getting smashed by proto guys. In academy I went like 30-6, now I can barely make kills let alone survive, I swear I get seen by a guy in a protosuit and he just chases me till I'm dead. It's not entirely impossible to get kills but really I die way too much even while trying to play tactically. It sucks.
Shaggy Larry Kinsho Swords Caldari State 0	Posted - 2013.11.24 20:01:00 - [8] - Quote Also, I really feel like there should be more instructions for new players, cause I wouldn't have known what the hell to do if not for Israel, it gives you the basics for getting into the battle and spending sp and such. Nothing is mentioned about orbital strikes, vehicles, installations, or even objective points really. I mean it's not hard to figure out, but it can be difficult if you're completely new to the game and don't know what you're doing.
Karl Marx II Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 130	Posted - 2013.11.24 21:29:00 - [9] - Quote Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: Let's just admit that we don't know the solution to this problem . So this is where we ACT like we care about this game and BEGIN to come together and ACT like adults and find a solution . Matching people in like gear is not a solution . Newer players still will not have fun . That's an insult to their level of understanding . You will only MASK the problem . Let's STOP talking about respec's , asking for things that we know we will not get ( useless game content and changes that will be counterproductive ) and wasting the time of those who are working to make this game better and increase the player base . Stop talking about how this game is dying and what is wrong ( we all know the core problems ) and begin to come up with solutions . I'm tired of all the complaining and bitterness . It doesn't help nor does it make ANY since and after a while it gets tiring and old . Time to step up and be part of the solution and stop being part of the problem . DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE ALREADY !!!!!! Don't think in not still mad about my tanks CCP . I AM TIRED of this waste of time on nonsensical topics by the collective . Let's make this game better so it can and will become a part of this ( PS3 ) games foundation but also give it a reason to become a part of the PS4 arsenal as well . Let's STOP wasting time !!!!! Me myself , I don't plan on playing video games when I'm 60 ( living out my golden years and enjoying life hopefully with grandchildren ) and at the rate this is going it won't even be anywhere done even by then . Without proper matchmaking and some form of a skill respec/refund system this game wont get to the PS4 SP based matchmaking is the answer .. tiercide it .. 500k -2m sp 2m - 5m sp 5-8m sp 8-15m sp and 15m sp + My Theme


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