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jerrmy12 kahoalii The dyst0pian Corporation Zero-Day 135	Posted - 2013.11.24 04:52:00 - [1] - Quote a std railgun has the damage of current particle cannon. it better have max 300m range or damage dropoff recuruit link 5 to 11 mil isk per 100k recuruit
Sgt Kirk SyNergy Gaming EoN. 2988	Posted - 2013.11.24 04:55:00 - [2] - Quote It has ammunition. I can't imagine Rails having a lot of ammo but shield tanks can have ammo supplies in the low slots. Although they are very CPU intensive when they only have 1 low slot so probably not.
jerrmy12 kahoalii The dyst0pian Corporation Zero-Day 135	Posted - 2013.11.24 04:57:00 - [3] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: It has ammunition. I can't imagine Rails having a lot of ammo but shield tanks can have ammo supplies in the low slots. Although they are very CPU intensive when they only have 1 low slot so probably not. its the damage/range that matters, it encourages redrailing, ammo is of no issue you have to sacrifice damage for range, look at the shotty recuruit link 5 to 11 mil isk per 100k recuruit
Sgt Kirk SyNergy Gaming EoN. 2990	Posted - 2013.11.24 05:01:00 - [4] - Quote jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Sgt Kirk wrote: It has ammunition. I can't imagine Rails having a lot of ammo but shield tanks can have ammo supplies in the low slots. Although they are very CPU intensive when they only have 1 low slot so probably not. its the damage/range that matters, it encourages redrailing, ammo is of no issue you have to sacrifice damage for range, look at the shotty something needs to happen to stop/discourage redlining, that would solve so many problems.
jerrmy12 kahoalii The dyst0pian Corporation Zero-Day 135	Posted - 2013.11.24 05:05:00 - [5] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Sgt Kirk wrote: It has ammunition. I can't imagine Rails having a lot of ammo but shield tanks can have ammo supplies in the low slots. Although they are very CPU intensive when they only have 1 low slot so probably not. its the damage/range that matters, it encourages redrailing, ammo is of no issue you have to sacrifice damage for range, look at the shotty something needs to happen to stop/discourage redlining, that would solve so many problems. no bullets go further than 100m in redline, solved btw proto 1.7 rail WILL 2 shot ANY dropship, 1885 dmg, hardeners wont matter as your in the air, you can get shot from anywhere, so you dont know if a tank or forge is charging recuruit link 5 to 11 mil isk per 100k recuruit
jerrmy12 kahoalii The dyst0pian Corporation Zero-Day 135	Posted - 2013.11.24 05:11:00 - [6] - Quote bump i dont want my 4 mil sp python to be worthiness again due rail weaponry recuruit link 5 to 11 mil isk per 100k recuruit
Rusty Shallows 542	Posted - 2013.11.24 05:30:00 - [7] - Quote 64 shots in 8 round magazines We are going to have people redlining with Rails and Missiles (on some maps). It's in the nature of the game, like redline sniping. "She may not be Miss Right but she'll do right now." SR-71 310k+ SP for +0.05m/s (>2in) on a Heavy. Totally worth it.
jerrmy12 kahoalii The dyst0pian Corporation Zero-Day 135	Posted - 2013.11.24 05:33:00 - [8] - Quote Rusty Shallows wrote: 64 shots in 8 round magazines We are going to have people redlining with Rails and Missiles (on some maps). It's in the nature of the game, like redline sniping. 1. RL sniping isn't hard to stay alive from 2. rails in redline are much worse, 2 shotting any dropship recuruit link 5 to 11 mil isk per 100k recuruit
Heathen Bastard The Bastard Brigade 704	Posted - 2013.11.24 05:33:00 - [9] - Quote okay. so we're not allowed to be on the field or we get **ed by AV(because one soldier is obviously better than one tank in your eyes.), we're not allowed to shoot from the redline because "it's not fair, WAH WAH WAH!" should they just take tanks out of the game? will you be happy with CoD514? **ing crybabies. you forced us to the hills, and you're going to reap the seeds you've sown. now shut up and take it in the ass like tanks have been since uprising dropped 6 months ago. If you hear the words "WORTH IT!" look about, something hilarious just happened.
Sgt Kirk SyNergy Gaming EoN. 2990	Posted - 2013.11.24 05:37:00 - [10] - Quote Heathen Bastard wrote: okay. so we're not allowed to be on the field or we get **ed by AV(because one soldier is obviously better than one tank in your eyes.), we're not allowed to shoot from the redline because "it's not fair, WAH WAH WAH!" should they just take tanks out of the game? will you be happy with CoD514? **ing crybabies. you forced us to the hills, and you're going to reap the seeds you've sown. now shut up and take it in the ass like tanks have been since uprising dropped 6 months ago. Prime example of butthurt

Ronan Elsword Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 103	Posted - 2013.11.24 05:37:00 - [11] - Quote jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: bump i dont want my 4 mil sp python to be worthiness again due rail weaponry Just give up on dropships, the assault is just made to get troops into or out of a position quickly while giving some cover and fire from the Dropship. We currently don't have a aerial vehicle built for long term combat. "Do not underestimate the power you have."
Heathen Bastard The Bastard Brigade 704	Posted - 2013.11.24 05:40:00 - [12] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: Heathen Bastard wrote: okay. so we're not allowed to be on the field or we get **ed by AV(because one soldier is obviously better than one tank in your eyes.), we're not allowed to shoot from the redline because "it's not fair, WAH WAH WAH!" should they just take tanks out of the game? will you be happy with CoD514? **ing crybabies. you forced us to the hills, and you're going to reap the seeds you've sown. now shut up and take it in the ass like tanks have been since uprising dropped 6 months ago. Prime example of butthurt Duh. CCP didn't even use lube. FOR 6 MONTHS! If you hear the words "WORTH IT!" look about, something hilarious just happened.
DeadlyAztec11 Gallente Federation 2226	Posted - 2013.11.24 05:41:00 - [13] - Quote Heathen Bastard wrote: okay. so we're not allowed to be on the field or we get **ed by AV(because one soldier is obviously better than one tank in your eyes.), we're not allowed to shoot from the redline because "it's not fair, WAH WAH WAH!" should they just take tanks out of the game? will you be happy with CoD514? **ing crybabies. you forced us to the hills, and you're going to reap the seeds you've sown. now shut up and take it in the ass like tanks have been since uprising dropped 6 months ago. The only people you are going to be hurting is Dropship pilots. Get over yourself, talk about crybabies... Madness is the emergency exit. You can just step outside, and close the door on all those dreadful things that happened.
Heathen Bastard The Bastard Brigade 704	Posted - 2013.11.24 05:43:00 - [14] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Heathen Bastard wrote: okay. so we're not allowed to be on the field or we get **ed by AV(because one soldier is obviously better than one tank in your eyes.), we're not allowed to shoot from the redline because "it's not fair, WAH WAH WAH!" should they just take tanks out of the game? will you be happy with CoD514? **ing crybabies. you forced us to the hills, and you're going to reap the seeds you've sown. now shut up and take it in the ass like tanks have been since uprising dropped 6 months ago. The only people you are going to be hurting is Dropship pilots. Get over yourself, talk about crybabies... I already hurt those pretty well. What am I going to do, move from one-shot 90% of the time to... one-shot 95% of the time? It's not much change. If you hear the words "WORTH IT!" look about, something hilarious just happened.
Sgt Kirk SyNergy Gaming EoN. 2991	Posted - 2013.11.24 05:44:00 - [15] - Quote Ronan Elsword wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: bump i dont want my 4 mil sp python to be worthiness again due rail weaponry Just give up on dropships, the assault is just made to get troops into or out of a position quickly while giving some cover and fire from the Dropship. We currently don't have a aerial vehicle built for long term combat. Yes, people should keep in mind that the dropship isn't a primary combat oriented aerial vehicle. Compare it to the blackhawk of our time, it comes with two turret guns for suppression for LZs. There is also the blackhawk D.A.P. (Direct Action Penetrator) that is configured to be gunship role while not being quite as good as a traditional gunship. It has two port guns and can actually have 4 port gunners and a main weapon system. Pretty beefy vehicle that D.A.P. Anyway that's like the Dropship we have now. It's in no way made to take a ton of damage.
DeadlyAztec11 Gallente Federation 2226	Posted - 2013.11.24 05:46:00 - [16] - Quote I'll just be happy when a respec for AV is finally confirmed. Madness is the emergency exit. You can just step outside, and close the door on all those dreadful things that happened.
CharCharOdell 1662	Posted - 2013.11.24 06:06:00 - [17] - Quote give veryone a respec. Gùñ-é-º+¼+ò+¦GÖÑ+ú+ú+¡ GÖÑ'Ðe+ü+üGùÑ Gùú -ä>-üð+++Ç++§<-¡<-¡ Gùó Speaker of the Mangrove / King of QQ / Co-Founder of the Learning Coalition
jerrmy12 kahoalii The dyst0pian Corporation Zero-Day 135	Posted - 2013.11.24 06:09:00 - [18] - Quote CharCharOdell wrote: give veryone but AV a respec for 5 months after vehicle nerfs fixed recuruit link 5 to 11 mil isk per 100k recuruit
Rusty Shallows 542	Posted - 2013.11.24 06:19:00 - [19] - Quote Ronan Elsword wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: bump i dont want my 4 mil sp python to be worthiness again due rail weaponry Just give up on dropships, the assault is just made to get troops into or out of a position quickly while giving some cover and fire from the Dropship. We currently don't have a aerial vehicle built for long term combat. I gave up on them one or two character resets (not respecs) ago. They haven't been fun since we were all trapped on the Line Harvest map and there were free militia vehicles for everyone. "She may not be Miss Right but she'll do right now." SR-71 310k+ SP for +0.05m/s (>2in) on a Heavy. Totally worth it.
Maverick STB SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 0	Posted - 2013.11.24 06:22:00 - [20] - Quote to op sir pretty sure its gonna be like the compressed and so what if it does that much have you ever used a rg? tbh its one of the hardest things to use in the game.

Maverick STB SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 0	Posted - 2013.11.24 06:35:00 - [21] - Quote Heathen Bastard wrote: okay. so we're not allowed to be on the field or we get **ed by AV(because one soldier is obviously better than one tank in your eyes.), we're not allowed to shoot from the redline because "it's not fair, WAH WAH WAH!" should they just take tanks out of the game? will you be happy with CoD514? **ing crybabies. you forced us to the hills, and you're going to reap the seeds you've sown. now shut up and take it in the ass like tanks have been since uprising dropped 6 months ago. dumbass we were never forced to the hills yea av had a big advantage but if you were a good tanker you would work around it. their should be no penalty for shooting in the redline but doesnt mean you should hide the whole time.
Heathen Bastard The Bastard Brigade 704	Posted - 2013.11.24 06:39:00 - [22] - Quote Maverick STB wrote: Heathen Bastard wrote: okay. so we're not allowed to be on the field or we get **ed by AV(because one soldier is obviously better than one tank in your eyes.), we're not allowed to shoot from the redline because "it's not fair, WAH WAH WAH!" should they just take tanks out of the game? will you be happy with CoD514? **ing crybabies. you forced us to the hills, and you're going to reap the seeds you've sown. now shut up and take it in the ass like tanks have been since uprising dropped 6 months ago. dumbass we were never forced to the hills yea av had a big advantage but if you were a good tanker you would work around it. their should be no penalty for shooting in the redline but doesnt mean you should hide the whole time. field work: High risk, minimal reward. redline firing: medium risk, still minimal reward. I shield tank. know what a shield tank with a rail is on the field? I'll give you three guesses, and unless they're "dead as doornails" then they don't count. If you hear the words "WORTH IT!" look about, something hilarious just happened.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 1321	Posted - 2013.11.24 09:10:00 - [23] - Quote Maverick STB wrote: to op sir pretty sure its gonna be like the compressed and so what if it does that much have you ever used a rg? tbh its one of the hardest things to use in the game. No. Not even close. Check out my corp's new website here :D -HAND
jerrmy12 kahoalii The dyst0pian Corporation Zero-Day 135	Posted - 2013.11.24 09:54:00 - [24] - Quote Maverick STB wrote: to op sir pretty sure its gonna be like the compressed and so what if it does that much have you ever used a rg? tbh its one of the hardest things to use in the game. yes, a rapid fire compressed rail is OP lol, compressed now, has 100 dmg less than 1.7 recuruit link 5 to 11 mil isk per 100k recuruit
DeadlyAztec11 Gallente Federation 2232	Posted - 2013.11.24 15:16:00 - [25] - Quote jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: CharCharOdell wrote: give veryone but jermy 12 a respec for 5 months after vehicle nerfs fixed Justidied Madness is the emergency exit. You can just step outside, and close the door on all those dreadful things that happened.
DeadlyAztec11 Gallente Federation 2232	Posted - 2013.11.24 15:18:00 - [26] - Quote Anyways the CPM seems to be pushing pretty sternly for an ALL OUT 100% RESPEC TO -íEVERYONE! CCP's position is that they may eventually consider it later on as a mechanic, but the CPM wants one now anyways. Woot CPM! Madness is the emergency exit. You can just step outside, and close the door on all those dreadful things that happened.
Infamous Erich Inf4m0us 47	Posted - 2013.11.24 15:31:00 - [27] - Quote Sorry but i disagree, The fact the base amount of damage on the std large railgun compares to the adv version doesn't make it "op" since the 15% damage skills for turrets will be removed and not to mention that all turrets have reload time and capacity now, the only damage bouns you can get on turrets now is from a module it self so a little damage buff on the base number wouldn't be such a bad thing in my opinion. Closed Beta Vet Shield Tank Vet Bring back my Sagaris
CharCharOdell 1665	Posted - 2013.11.24 17:01:00 - [28] - Quote jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: a std railgun has the damage of current particle cannon. it better have max 300m range or damage dropoff actually, it has a 600m range (fully renders this time) and 0% falloff at 600m. you must be a dropship pilot. Gùñ-é-º+¼+ò+¦GÖÑ+ú+ú+¡ GÖÑ'Ðe+ü+üGùÑ Gùú -ä>-üð+++Ç++§<-¡<-¡ Gùó Speaker of the Mangrove / King of QQ / Co-Founder of the Learning Coalition
Our Deepest Regret The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 332	Posted - 2013.11.24 21:05:00 - [29] - Quote Never really understood the rage about Redline rail gunning. It's called Siege warfare. Why should Forge Gunners and Snipers be the only ones allowed to rain fire from a safe distance?
Heathen Bastard The Bastard Brigade 706	Posted - 2013.11.24 21:16:00 - [30] - Quote Our Deepest Regret wrote: Never really understood the rage about Redline rail gunning. It's called Siege warfare. Why should Forge Gunners and Snipers be the only ones allowed to rain fire from a safe distance? because they're easier to skill into, allowing any AR idiot to quickly skill into it so they can use it. tanks take a long time to get to "not gonna die in 5 seconds when the AV guy breathes in my general direction" so it's not fair in their eyes when A: one doesn't and B: when it won't act suicidally. If you hear the words "WORTH IT!" look about, something hilarious just happened.



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