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Paran Tadec
Imperfect Bastards
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Posted - 2013.11.23 19:45:00 -
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And why they are bad for the economy. AUR for permanent items such as cosmetics and boosters is fine. BPO's are bad. Please put out a devblog with all the number (which I know you have) to finally soothe the tears of cryhard scrubs who can only afford to run AUR militia gear.
Bittervet Proficiency V
thanks logibro!
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Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star.
EoN.
1763
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Posted - 2013.11.23 19:47:00 -
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Milita BPO are so good its why everyone proto stomps
Yea no |
Paran Tadec
Imperfect Bastards
1695
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Posted - 2013.11.23 19:57:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Milita BPO are so good its why everyone proto stomps
Yea no
Protostomping is obsolete with autoaim and turbo controllers.
Bittervet Proficiency V
thanks logibro!
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Jaysyn Larrisen
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
328
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Posted - 2013.11.23 20:01:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:And why they are bad for the economy. AUR for permanent items such as cosmetics and boosters is fine. BPO's are bad. Please put out a devblog with all the number (which I know you have) to finally soothe the tears of cryhard scrubs who can only afford to run AUR militia gear.
Good call.
Since the vast majority of BPOs are militia or standard level I'm not sure why folks are in such an uproar. Admittedly, the LAV BPOs I have are really useful but I can survive without then, no sweat. If there were advanced or proto BPOs being pulled I might raise my eyes at that.
Beyond that, if you want a basic economy in Dust BPOs pretty much have to go. May not seem like much but they would have a negative impact on the long term economic balance. I do think it would be legit to have a BPO that produces X number of items over time if you supply it with raw materials or even just a small cut of ISK to simulate the resource draw of production. Something along the lines of 5x Toxin rifles produced every 12hrs for 5k ISK worth of resources. |
Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star.
EoN.
1766
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Posted - 2013.11.23 20:05:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Milita BPO are so good its why everyone proto stomps
Yea no Protostomping is obsolete with autoaim and turbo controllers.
Yet many still do it |
Yelhsa Jin-Mao
GunFall Mobilization
Covert Intervention
141
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Posted - 2013.11.23 20:06:00 -
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Jaysyn Larrisen wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:And why they are bad for the economy. AUR for permanent items such as cosmetics and boosters is fine. BPO's are bad. Please put out a devblog with all the number (which I know you have) to finally soothe the tears of cryhard scrubs who can only afford to run AUR militia gear. Good call. Since the vast majority of BPOs are militia or standard level I'm not sure why folks are in such an uproar. Admittedly, the LAV BPOs I have are really useful but I can survive without then, no sweat. If there were advanced or proto BPOs being pulled I might raise my eyes at that. Beyond that, if you want a basic economy in Dust BPOs pretty much have to go. May not seem like much but they would have a negative impact on the long term economic balance. I do think it would be legit to have a BPO that produces X number of items over time if you supply it with raw materials or even just a small cut of ISK to simulate the resource draw of production. Something along the lines of 5x Toxin rifles produced every 12hrs for 5k ISK worth of resources.
Well I have 62 BPOs and 110,000,000 ISK and you can't have either so **** you.
I can has ISK
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Happy Jack SD
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
14
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Posted - 2013.11.23 20:07:00 -
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When I hear that BPO's are ruining the economy I laugh. With all the ISK saved from running BPO's (instead of their equivalent militia or standard gear), from ALL players across Dust, I seriously doubt it reaches over 1 Billion...
And the key contributors to the ISK numbers are the LAV's BPO's, although they cost upwards of $50 USD... so it's not really an "economical" issue for CCP. |
xLuca Brasi
DUST University
Ivy League
52
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Posted - 2013.11.23 20:29:00 -
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Jaysyn Larrisen wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:And why they are bad for the economy. AUR for permanent items such as cosmetics and boosters is fine. BPO's are bad. Please put out a devblog with all the number (which I know you have) to finally soothe the tears of cryhard scrubs who can only afford to run AUR militia gear. Good call. Since the vast majority of BPOs are militia or standard level I'm not sure why folks are in such an uproar. Admittedly, the LAV BPOs I have are really useful but I can survive without then, no sweat. If there were advanced or proto BPOs being pulled I might raise my eyes at that. Beyond that, if you want a basic economy in Dust BPOs pretty much have to go. May not seem like much but they would have a negative impact on the long term economic balance. I do think it would be legit to have a BPO that produces X number of items over time if you supply it with raw materials or even just a small cut of ISK to simulate the resource draw of production. Something along the lines of 5x Toxin rifles produced every 12hrs for 5k ISK worth of resources.
wait a sec... you just admitted that bpo's don't compare to adv and proto... well you have to buy those right?
so if your not even using the bpo's how do they have a negative economic effect?
plus, bpo's are off the market, so only a few people have them. if most people still buy their gear because they either don't have bpo's or don't use them, how does that negatively effect the economy?
we are mad because ccp is messing with things we spent our REAL money on and they are not treating us fairly in this change.
if bpo's have to go fine.
but i bought a permanent and useful item. I should get a permant and useful item in return.
SAY NO TO BPO REMOVALS!
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Pvt Numnutz
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement
Caldari State
292
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Posted - 2013.11.23 20:42:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Milita BPO are so good its why everyone proto stomps
Yea no
Right? So long as bpos are basic or lower tier equipment there is no problem with "the economy" what ever that is |
plaplapla
Dogs of War Gaming
Zero-Day
13
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Posted - 2013.11.23 21:20:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:And why they are bad for the economy. AUR for permanent items such as cosmetics and boosters is fine. BPO's are bad. Please put out a devblog with all the number (which I know you have) to finally soothe the tears of cryhard scrubs who can only afford to run AUR militia gear.
if BPO are bad for the economy then so are the starter fits |
Mortedeamor
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL
826
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Posted - 2013.11.23 21:23:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Milita BPO are so good its why everyone proto stomps
Yea no Protostomping is obsolete with autoaim and turbo controllers.
thank you |
Mortedeamor
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL
826
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Posted - 2013.11.23 21:25:00 -
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xLuca Brasi wrote:Jaysyn Larrisen wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:And why they are bad for the economy. AUR for permanent items such as cosmetics and boosters is fine. BPO's are bad. Please put out a devblog with all the number (which I know you have) to finally soothe the tears of cryhard scrubs who can only afford to run AUR militia gear. Good call. Since the vast majority of BPOs are militia or standard level I'm not sure why folks are in such an uproar. Admittedly, the LAV BPOs I have are really useful but I can survive without then, no sweat. If there were advanced or proto BPOs being pulled I might raise my eyes at that. Beyond that, if you want a basic economy in Dust BPOs pretty much have to go. May not seem like much but they would have a negative impact on the long term economic balance. I do think it would be legit to have a BPO that produces X number of items over time if you supply it with raw materials or even just a small cut of ISK to simulate the resource draw of production. Something along the lines of 5x Toxin rifles produced every 12hrs for 5k ISK worth of resources. wait a sec... you just admitted that bpo's don't compare to adv and proto... well you have to buy those right? so if your not even using the bpo's how do they have a negative economic effect? plus, bpo's are off the market, so only a few people have them. if most people still buy their gear because they either don't have bpo's or don't use them, how does that negatively effect the economy? we are mad because ccp is messing with things we spent our REAL money on and they are not treating us fairly in this change. if bpo's have to go fine. but i bought a permanent and useful item. I should get a permant and useful item in return.
the only bpos i reg use are cpu bpo and pg bpo exile and syndicate |
Rinas Rylos
Rinas' Raiders
67
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Posted - 2013.11.23 21:28:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:And why they are bad for the economy. AUR for permanent items such as cosmetics and boosters is fine. BPO's are bad. Please put out a devblog with all the number (which I know you have) to finally soothe the tears of cryhard scrubs who can only afford to run AUR militia gear.
I get that you're thinking it's a good idea, and perhaps in a better world? This would clear up a lot of stuff. The problem is that a lot of the people moaning and complaining about this wouldn't really be placated by an explanation of why they're being removed anyway. The game has changed, and unless said change is reverted (which would **** other people off) then they just won't be happy. |
Vrain Matari
ZionTCD
Public Disorder.
1267
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Posted - 2013.11.23 22:14:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:And why they are bad for the economy. AUR for permanent items such as cosmetics and boosters is fine. BPO's are bad. Please put out a devblog with all the number (which I know you have) to finally soothe the tears of cryhard scrubs who can only afford to run AUR militia gear.
I'm neutral on the BPO's except for my Raven, SVER, and Valor suits, which i'm not skilled into but do love dearly.
I would like to see the game keep BPOs and alter them such that they have a positive impact on the game.
The easiest way to do this is change BPOs so that they modify stats/skins for any standard item bought. So a Raven Assault suit BPO would modify the appearance of a STD Caldari Assault dropsuit, and maybe even provide some minor sidegrade buffs for flavor.
That way every item would need to be manufactured but BPOs would still provide interesting and worthwhile content that peeps would be happy to pay AUR for.
I support SP rollover.
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