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Operative 1171 Aajli
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Posted - 2013.11.23 12:25:00 -
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THIS
I guess this is a good indication (if there was any doubt or wonderment) of the deal between Sony and CCP. It's to PROVE something. That something is simply that SOE can squeeze money out of the player base through their F2P system thus PROVING SOE is a success because they are hurting since the good ol' days of Everquest.
No, not to develop a quality game as could have happened if CCP took the PC route. Only to keep tweaking things to keep up the microtransactions. DUST has already failed Sony on this front.
CoD, BF et al isn't what we should be comparing DUST to, its DC Online that is the model for DUST as a commodity. I hope this deal fails so CCP can move on to a serious, independent PC development plan.
That's how I see it. Discuss.
If you don't think sniping is the greatest thing everGǪ I will fight you. That's no lie.
-GÇö Ron Burgundy paraphrased
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Operative 1171 Aajli
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Posted - 2013.11.23 12:30:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Operative 1171 Aajili wrote: DUST just another cash grab?
No. Now go away.
Lol, no meaningful response? You didn't read the article did you? Fanbois.
This is pretty much the view of EVE Players when this deal was annouced anyway. The article just drives the point home.
If you don't think sniping is the greatest thing everGǪ I will fight you. That's no lie.
-GÇö Ron Burgundy paraphrased
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Operative 1171 Aajli
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Posted - 2013.11.23 12:37:00 -
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Luna Angelo wrote:Disagree respectfully. If it was a cash-grab, would it be free-to-play, where the only thing spending real money on is gear you can use earlier, but are the same as Isk variants, or (in future, and somewhat, now) things that are pretty ("Neo" Assault CK.0, "Neo" Logistics CK.0, et al)?
That's my point. Under Sony's F2P service this is a cash grab as far as Sony is concerned. It's not working out to be too lucrative though at this point. CCP is not in this deal just to get funds to make a better game. They could do that more effectively with subscriptions on the PC like EVE. Sony thought they could ***** them out.
If you don't think sniping is the greatest thing everGǪ I will fight you. That's no lie.
-GÇö Ron Burgundy paraphrased
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Operative 1171 Aajli
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Posted - 2013.11.23 13:26:00 -
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Crash Monster wrote:Is there a for profit business on the planet that isn't trying to make cash?
Seriously. What kind of boneheads do we have around here. While the game itself is free the expectation is that it can still turn a profit based on various types of micro-payment options.
The arguement isn't about profit. It's about who's wanting it from who and why. Sony's wanting to make a profit off of its SOE F2P market. CCP wants a profit to fund its game development. This, as the article suggests is not a good profit model for DUST to succeed in. It might be good for the time being for early development. It is not going to favor CCP in the long run for DUST to be taken seriously beyond just another SOE money stream for Sony and a bad rap for DUST.
Unless of course you like the idea of DUST being a DC Universe for the kiddies. You will not get the serious gamer base within this context. You will get CoD and worse. Apparently CoD is bad to the serious gamer. A DC Universe SOE style game is worse.
TL;DR WHO IS REALLY PULLING WHAT STRINGS?
If you don't think sniping is the greatest thing everGǪ I will fight you. That's no lie.
-GÇö Ron Burgundy paraphrased
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Operative 1171 Aajli
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Posted - 2013.11.23 13:27:00 -
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Dunk Mujunk wrote:I wonder if Dust is just a test bed for future PC stuff (maybe PC Dust). I would imagine the PC crowd would expect better from a game than what we currently get. Maybe CCP is honing their FPS skills on us before taking a serious crack at it later down the road.
At this point I figure either A) CCP has a huge trick up its sleeve, B) They are doing like I said and honing their FPS skills on us, or C) They just have no idea how to balance the game.
I don't know which it is, but no, I don't think Dust is a cash grab. If it is, it's a **** poor one.
That's my theory. I hope it is so.
If you don't think sniping is the greatest thing everGǪ I will fight you. That's no lie.
-GÇö Ron Burgundy paraphrased
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